Makes a ton of sense.

I am willing to bet the Mar-a-Lago documents at the heart of the issue are the documents that Trump and Ratcliffe declassified and left for the ODNI to publicly release after Durham was done.
https://t.co/oxl4w7Ud8Z

— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) August 10, 2022

Also explains why Trump would go to court to force the DOJ/FBI to release a copy of the items they confiscated...

— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) August 10, 2022

Oh snap.... This is only rumor (right now, and from a great source), but one of the Trump documents seized *is suspected to be* the 2017 fully unredacted 99-page report from FISA Judge Rosemary Collyer, outlining who the DOJ and FBI allowed to use the NSA database. pic.twitter.com/8d0Q0425MN

— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) August 11, 2022

NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING, has more to do with spygate than how the entire surveillance operation originated through use of the DOJ/FBI searching the NSA database. That is the origin of Spygate. https://t.co/oa2NtyzZ5X

— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) August 11, 2022

Been waiting for something related to Durham for a while so forgive me if I'm not immediately ready to jump on this train.

In

Bill Barr was the Bondo application....
John Durham is the spray paint....

The goal was/is to protect the institutional interests of the corrupt and politicized deep state.

The ODNI, DHS, DOJ/FBI and SSCI are the four pillars that keep it in place.

— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) August 10, 2022

This is what Kash Patel is saying.

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Been waiting for something related to Durham for a while so forgive me if I'm not immediately ready to jump on this train.

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Been waiting for years for any corrupt Democrats to get any justice serred to them

Not jumping on any train

Neat theories. Did any of the tweets offer any insight into why Trump doesn't have access to a copy machine or scanner?

Oh boy! Another bombshell that I can't wait to not drop! This is Q thread all over again.

Kash has been saying it, and Ratcliffe has one tweet since the raid hinting at it. These guys would know what documents would be of most interest to the FBI.

Wray already admitted that the FBI fraudulently obtained multiple warrants to illegally spy on Trump as as a candidate and during presidency. If yet another FBI warrant to raid Trump’s home doesn’t stand up to scrutiny, Wray may be the last FBI Director https://t.co/Xv4hRDmiFs

— John Ratcliffe (@JohnRatcliffe) August 9, 2022

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This is what Kash Patel is saying.

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Then we knows it's not accurate.

ChemAg15 said:

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Oh boy! Another bombshell that I can't wait to not drop! This is Q thread all over again.

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Mueller thread actually.

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VegasAg86 said:

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This is what Kash Patel is saying.

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Then we knows it's not accurate.

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How do we know that?

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This is what Kash Patel is saying.

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Very interesting because in a way this goes all the way back to Snowden's work.

That was one of those things where purists put too much emphasis on his deed, rather than the light shone and what was exposed.

This Patel statement would point to 2017 seeing exactly the kind of abuses warned about, and get to the hear of the `soft coup' of 2017-2020.

Of course if the only copy Trump had was in Mar-al-Lago that would be dumb on its face. It should be in several places.

@Hmmm57474203, @walkafyre, @FOOL_NELSON and @ClimateAudit, the name Danchenko would probably still be unknown. In turn, Alfa was only able to ramp up their case because we found Danchenko. Durham then fed off of what Alfa found. Just one example. There are many others. Let's see.

— Hans Mahncke (@HansMahncke) August 11, 2022

Because he's full of it. He says what gets him press coverage. He's not the only one that dies this obviously. 24 hour news created a cottage industry of "pundits" that just say what the audience expects them to say. Patel has been saying "Durham going to bust everyone" for years now. It's the equivalent of posting "well, Jay Carney said so"

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Pinochet said:

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Been waiting for something related to Durham for a while so forgive me if I'm not immediately ready to jump on this train.

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Been waiting for years for any corrupt Democrats to get any justice serred to them

Not jumping on any train

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Agree. No chance of legal consequences. That process is set. AG Barr affirmed.

But a big enough reveal can trigger a mass public response -- the demand then the run out of office kind. That always remains at least something that could happen positively.

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Because he's full of it. He says what gets him press coverage. He's not the only one that dies this obviously. 24 hour news created a cottage industry of "pundits" that just say what the audience expects them to say. Patel has been saying "Durham going to bust everyone" for years now. It's the equivalent of posting "well, Jay Carney said so"

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So he never tells the truth then? Good to know. Thanks.

Go get 'em tiger!!

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CanyonAg77 said:

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Pinochet said:

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Been waiting for something related to Durham for a while so forgive me if I'm not immediately ready to jump on this train.

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Been waiting for years for any corrupt Democrats to get any justice serred to them

Not jumping on any train

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Agree. No chance of legal consequences. That process is set. AG Barr affirmed.

But a big enough reveal can trigger a mass public response -- the demand then the run out of office kind. That always remains at least something that could happen positively.

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Reveals are the purview of mass media. No "reveal" as you expect it is going to occur. So my question to you, Titan, is "what constitutes a reveal absent media channels "?

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BMX Bandit said:

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Because he's full of it. He says what gets him press coverage. He's not the only one that dies this obviously. 24 hour news created a cottage industry of "pundits" that just say what the audience expects them to say. Patel has been saying "Durham going to bust everyone" for years now. It's the equivalent of posting "well, Jay Carney said so"

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So he never tells the truth then? Good to know. Thanks.

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Without Patel, who knows how much the public ever finds out about the Steele Dossier and Russiagate.

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In 2017-18, Mr. Patel gained the hostility of liberals and plaudits of conservatives by pressing the FBI and Democratic Party operatives to come clean on the Kremlin-sourced dossier compiled by one-time British intelligence agent Christopher Steele. Its 35 pages wrongfully accused President Trump and allies of a dozen election felonies.

As a then-low key House investigator, Mr. Patel cracked the code: Democrats had paid Mr. Steele for his discredited narrative and the FBI used it to convince judges to approve a year's worth of wiretaps on a Trump volunteer. The dossier also played a role the overall FBI "Crossfire Hurricane" probe by falsely claiming there was an "extensive" Trump-Kremlin conspiracy.

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titan said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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Pinochet said:

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Been waiting for something related to Durham for a while so forgive me if I'm not immediately ready to jump on this train.

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Been waiting for years for any corrupt Democrats to get any justice serred to them

Not jumping on any train

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Agree. No chance of legal consequences. That process is set. AG Barr affirmed.

But a big enough reveal can trigger a mass public response -- the demand then the run out of office kind. That always remains at least something that could happen positively.

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Reveals are the purview of mass media. No "reveal" as you expect it is going to occur. So my question to you, Titan, is "what constitutes a reveal absent media channels "?

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Something's got to happen. This just can't be passively allowed to occur.

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titan said:

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Pinochet said:

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Been waiting for something related to Durham for a while so forgive me if I'm not immediately ready to jump on this train.

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Been waiting for years for any corrupt Democrats to get any justice serred to them

Not jumping on any train

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Agree. No chance of legal consequences. That process is set. AG Barr affirmed.

But a big enough reveal can trigger a mass public response -- the demand then the run out of office kind. That always remains at least something that could happen positively.

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Reveals are the purview of mass media. No "reveal" as you expect it is going to occur. So my question to you, Titan, is "what constitutes a reveal absent media channels "?

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Oh there is plenty enough of Internet and alternative media that if a big enough thing was revealed, it would get out. Now what would constitute it? Well we have seen plenty of indications of all the directly coordinate malfeasance in 2017-onward --the so-called "soft coup" against the 45 admin. Imagine something that made that definite, clear-cut, maybe Nixon tapes level.

But would define a "reveal" now as something that persuades a Center Left person. That's it. All you have to do is move the Center Left to also believe it, and then its likely to be real. So it has to meet more conventional standards of proof and evidence then lets say, a Hannity "tick tock" moment, which are tiresome for never quite being "solid" . Kraken is another case of that kind of `no show'.

For example, the FBI has alienated Malibu2. He is wobbling on the matter. They are skating on thin ice with him, you can tell. And that goes another way too -something strong enough to swing a Center Left person is going to operate as "well I am damn sure" for one on the center right. And vice versa.

I don't know if that quite answers your query.

Edit: just thought of a minor example. This probably can persuade a Center Left person. Its right there, them mindlessly changing the narrative---as if out of V for Vendetta. That's a reveal, but a different type.
Propaganda shift in Real Time on MSNBC! | TexAgs

titan said:

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10thYrSr said:

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titan said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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Pinochet said:

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Been waiting for something related to Durham for a while so forgive me if I'm not immediately ready to jump on this train.

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Been waiting for years for any corrupt Democrats to get any justice serred to them

Not jumping on any train

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Agree. No chance of legal consequences. That process is set. AG Barr affirmed.

But a big enough reveal can trigger a mass public response -- the demand then the run out of office kind. That always remains at least something that could happen positively.

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Reveals are the purview of mass media. No "reveal" as you expect it is going to occur. So my question to you, Titan, is "what constitutes a reveal absent media channels "?

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Oh there is plenty enough of Internet and alternative media that if a big enough thing was revealed, it would get out. Now what would constitute it? Well we have seen plenty of indications of all the directly coordinate malfeasance in 2017-onward --the so-called "soft coup" against the 45 admin. Imagine something that made that definite, clear-cut, maybe Nixon tapes level.

But would define a "reveal" now as something that persuades a Center Left person. That's it. All you have to do is move the Center Left to also believe it, and then its likely to be real. So it has to meet more conventional standards of proof and evidence then lets say, a Hannity "tick tock" moment, which are tiresome for never quite being "solid" . Kraken is another case of that kind of `no show'.

For example, the FBI has alienated Malibu2. He is wobbling on the matter. They are skating on thin ice with him, you can tell. And that goes another way too -something strong enough to swing a Center Left person is going to operate as "well I am damn sure" for one on the center right. And vice versa.

I don't know if that quite answers your query.

Edit: just thought of a minor example. This probably can persuade a Center Left person. Its right there, them mindlessly changing the narrative---as if out of V for Vendetta. That's a reveal, but a different type.
Propaganda shift in Real Time on MSNBC! | TexAgs

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I love your reference to V for Vendetta. That is approaching Meta in this particular situation.. For your reference, below is the definition of Meta:

Showing or suggesting an explicit awareness of itself or oneself as a member of its category cleverly self-referential.

Snowden should have released/published/revealed everything to the widest possible audience as SOON as possible.

The deep state has had WAY too much time and momentum in covering it all up, and if 2022 and 2024 elections are as fixed as 2020, they will have gotten away with it for all time. Of course, We The People will have a hell of a lot more to worry about by then.

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Go get 'em tiger!!

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You didn't answer my question.

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10thYrSr said:

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titan said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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Pinochet said:

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Been waiting for something related to Durham for a while so forgive me if I'm not immediately ready to jump on this train.

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Been waiting for years for any corrupt Democrats to get any justice serred to them

Not jumping on any train

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Agree. No chance of legal consequences. That process is set. AG Barr affirmed.

But a big enough reveal can trigger a mass public response -- the demand then the run out of office kind. That always remains at least something that could happen positively.

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Reveals are the purview of mass media. No "reveal" as you expect it is going to occur. So my question to you, Titan, is "what constitutes a reveal absent media channels "?

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Oh there is plenty enough of Internet and alternative media that if a big enough thing was revealed, it would get out. Now what would constitute it? Well we have seen plenty of indications of all the directly coordinate malfeasance in 2017-onward --the so-called "soft coup" against the 45 admin. Imagine something that made that definite, clear-cut, maybe Nixon tapes level.

But would define a "reveal" now as something that persuades a Center Left person. That's it. All you have to do is move the Center Left to also believe it, and then its likely to be real. So it has to meet more conventional standards of proof and evidence then lets say, a Hannity "tick tock" moment, which are tiresome for never quite being "solid" . Kraken is another case of that kind of `no show'.

For example, the FBI has alienated Malibu2. He is wobbling on the matter. They are skating on thin ice with him, you can tell. And that goes another way too -something strong enough to swing a Center Left person is going to operate as "well I am damn sure" for one on the center right. And vice versa.

I don't know if that quite answers your query.

Edit: just thought of a minor example. This probably can persuade a Center Left person. Its right there, them mindlessly changing the narrative---as if out of V for Vendetta. That's a reveal, but a different type.
Propaganda shift in Real Time on MSNBC! | TexAgs

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Excellent summary and I think we won't know for sure until November. We will see polls and media coverage about how close the elections are but we need to see what actually transpires. Have enough of these center left voters seen the proof they need to pull the lever? If November is tangible, then I think 2024 is well in play. I'm still burned by the overall hatred in 2020 and the potential for shenanigans in voting to fully believe there is an ass kicking coming and we take our country back to try to rebuild back better.

From what we have experienced from Biden and his DOJ / FBI, it seems very likely that these stooges wanted to retrieve any damaging information that Trump could use against them, just like the raid on Veritas to retrieve the Biden daughter's diary. Biden's America: An armed IRS agent in every kitchen and an armed FBI agent in every wardrobe closet !

His legal team has the warrant. They could release it if they really wanted it to be released. This is smokeshow theater.

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His legal team has the warrant. They could release it if they really wanted it to be released.

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You sure?

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His legal team has the warrant. They could release it if they really wanted it to be released. This is smokeshow theater.

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How do you know this?

You claiming his lawyers don't have a copy of the warrant?

AggieDub14 said:

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His legal team has the warrant. They could release it if they really wanted it to be released. This is smokeshow theater.

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Warrant or application for warrant with supporting evidence?

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AggieDub14 said:

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His legal team has the warrant. They could release it if they really wanted it to be released. This is smokeshow theater.

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Warrant or application for warrant with supporting evidence?

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Warrant with judge signature.

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Excellent summary and I think we won't know for sure until November. We will see polls and media coverage about how close the elections are but we need to see what actually transpires. Have enough of these center left voters seen the proof they need to pull the lever? If November is tangible, then I think 2024 is well in play. I'm still burned by the overall hatred in 2020 and the potential for shenanigans in voting to fully believe there is an ass kicking coming and we take our country back to try to rebuild back better.

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Agree. The wild card is what will the reality be in November, not what is being reported.

The Mainstream legacy media is unambiguously enemy. It doesn't matter what they say and are spinning. What matters is if any of the Center Left are simply looking at what the govt and anchors as a `regime' are DOING and PROPOSING -- especially some of their near counterparts in Canada and Western Europe. (ex: Trudeau) If they have been watching that, they may vote in November in a way that does not accord with polls.