I know you're seeing Republicans looking strong and like you did when the Tea Party started gaining momentum, you're wanting to hijack our movement again and turn it into some weird monstrosity.

Try and understand... We may be conservatives, but that's not the same thing as social conservatives. Fighting gay marriage is not at the top of our agenda. We're not necessarily for it but it's not at the top of our agenda. If you're against gay marriage then don't marry someone of the same sex. Problem solved. We have real country crippling problems to deal with and we need to stay focused on that.

Take your theocracy elsewhere and start your own party!

ETA: opposing gay marriage doesn't mean you support a theocracy. It's what lengths you want to go to enforce that that makes it a theocracy:

Silian Rail said:

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Conservatism does not mean small government, Conservatism should not support deviant behavior, Conservatism should uphold the idea that all rights are endowed by God and he is the source of all law.

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And then there's also this:

BAP Enthusiast said:

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I am of the opinion that adultery should be punishable by a minimum of 1 year in prison for every violation and it should be the only valid reason for divorce. I also think that you should not be allowed to marry at all unless you get a religious marriage. This would ensure all marriages are religious in nature and eliminate those who just want to get married for tax purposes.

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It's not just that they hold these religious views. It was a free country. Have whatever views you want. It's like the libs, they want to enforce their religious views with the full force of the law. That's a theocracy.

Yeah, we needed another thread on this, thanks…

TexAgs91 said:

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I know you're seeing Republicans looking strong and like you did when the Tea Party started gaining momentum, you're wanting to hijack our movement again and turn it into some weird monstrosity.

Try and understand... We may be conservatives, but that's not the same thing as social conservatives. Fighting gay marriage is not at the top of our agenda. If you're against gay marriage then don't marry someone of the same sex. Problem solved. We have real country crippling problems to deal with and we need to stay focused on that.

Take your theocracy elsewhere and start your own party!

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Plus Juan, and also, page Juan.

But...but...Sarah Palin wasn't a red herring to sink the tea party, there was no hijacking( I remember those arguments on this board oh so well...)

So wanting to adhere to the definition of marriage that was used for thousands of years (and the first 200+ years of this country) is wanting a theocracy?

TexAgs91 said:

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I know you're seeing Republicans looking strong and like you did when the Tea Party started gaining momentum, you're wanting to hijack our movement again and turn it into some weird monstrosity.

Try and understand... We may be conservatives, but that's not the same thing as social conservatives. Fighting gay marriage is not at the top of our agenda. If you're against gay marriage then don't marry someone of the same sex. Problem solved. We have real country crippling problems to deal with and we need to stay focused on that.

Take your theocracy elsewhere and start your own party!

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not sure this is the path to be quite honest. the surest way to elect more democrats is to splinter conservatives into multiple factions. would much rather wok with religious right then liberals trying to destroy our country.

This thread will die of monkeypox

TexAgs91 said:

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I know you're seeing Republicans looking strong and like you did when the Tea Party started gaining momentum, you're wanting to hijack our movement again and turn it into some weird monstrosity.

Try and understand... We may be conservatives, but that's not the same thing as social conservatives. Fighting gay marriage is not at the top of our agenda. We're not necessarily for it but it's not at the top of our agenda. If you're against gay marriage then don't marry someone of the same sex. Problem solved. We have real country crippling problems to deal with and we need to stay focused on that.

Take your theocracy elsewhere and start your own party!

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No

Your condescension is noted and your opinion discarded.

StandUpforAmerica said:

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So wanting to adhere to the definition of marriage that was used for thousands of years (and the first 200+ years of this country) is wanting a theocracy?

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Weren't every one of those governments before the US essentially some sort of theocracy?

I think both sides can concede on some issues. A government can encourage and provide incentives for the traditional definition of marriage based on the historical proof of how much better it makes your country, while still allowing the freedom to do what you want.

The Last Cobra Commander said:

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Yeah, we needed another thread on this, thanks…

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It might be his second of the day.

Lol we're for the most part advocating for the social policies of the GOP circa a decade ago you absolute dunce.

Well I, for one, am in favor of returning to the American Fascist Theocracy of ***checks notes*** 2014.

StandUpforAmerica said:

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So wanting to adhere to the definition of marriage that was used for thousands of years (and the first 200+ years of this country) is wanting a theocracy?

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Don't play dumb. You've read what lengths they're willing to go to to enforce their ideology and you know I mean.

live look at the posters in question

Being on the religious right, I don't give a flying crap what people do in their homes. It's only up to me to preach the gospel, not force people into my beliefs.

Sexual immorality (such as homosexuality is a sin), and I hate it, but I love the person (maybe fall short of this sometimes but we are all sinners).

God and his son, Jesus Christ, will sort it out on judgement day.

So thanks for lumping all of us together.

BAP Enthusiast said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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I know you're seeing Republicans looking strong and like you did when the Tea Party started gaining momentum, you're wanting to hijack our movement again and turn it into some weird monstrosity.

Try and understand... We may be conservatives, but that's not the same thing as social conservatives. Fighting gay marriage is not at the top of our agenda. We're not necessarily for it but it's not at the top of our agenda. If you're against gay marriage then don't marry someone of the same sex. Problem solved. We have real country crippling problems to deal with and we need to stay focused on that.

Take your theocracy elsewhere and start your own party!

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No

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There's one of the poster boys.

ThEoCrAcY!!!!!

Another word that will lose all meaning because folks get triggered by the Truth

TexAgs91 said:

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BAP Enthusiast said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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I know you're seeing Republicans looking strong and like you did when the Tea Party started gaining momentum, you're wanting to hijack our movement again and turn it into some weird monstrosity.

Try and understand... We may be conservatives, but that's not the same thing as social conservatives. Fighting gay marriage is not at the top of our agenda. We're not necessarily for it but it's not at the top of our agenda. If you're against gay marriage then don't marry someone of the same sex. Problem solved. We have real country crippling problems to deal with and we need to stay focused on that.

Take your theocracy elsewhere and start your own party!

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No

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There's one of the poster boys.

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Glad I made the list.

BAP Enthusiast said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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BAP Enthusiast said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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I know you're seeing Republicans looking strong and like you did when the Tea Party started gaining momentum, you're wanting to hijack our movement again and turn it into some weird monstrosity.

Try and understand... We may be conservatives, but that's not the same thing as social conservatives. Fighting gay marriage is not at the top of our agenda. We're not necessarily for it but it's not at the top of our agenda. If you're against gay marriage then don't marry someone of the same sex. Problem solved. We have real country crippling problems to deal with and we need to stay focused on that.

Take your theocracy elsewhere and start your own party!

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No

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There's one of the poster boys.

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Glad I made the list.

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Based

For the love of God, Hyperbole much? Having an agreed upon set of moral definitions is not a "Theocracy".

Its hilarious to watch libertarians and Gary Johnson voters complain that we're bringing the party down with social conservatism.

So you aren't of the opinion that if you vote libertarian, you are basically letting the democrats win?

StandUpforAmerica said:

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So wanting to adhere to the definition of marriage that was used for thousands of years (and the first 200+ years of this country) is wanting a theocracy?

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I don't care what two people do in private. I don't really even care if the state wants to recognize gays as married. But anything beyond that (the "trans" bull****, the sexualization of young children, drag queen story time, "birthing people," pedophilia, gender identity, pronouns, etc. etc.) all needs to be viciously, and I mean VICIOUSLY, opposed. That kind of backwards, chaos-sowing, anarchist horse**** will absolutely tear a functioning society apart, and it's doing a good job of it already. It needs to be thoroughly purged.

You know, those of your keyboard warriors need to get off your ass and actually do something. The Religious Right is doing stuff. We're out feeding the homeless, we protested at Mahoney's Grill having a child-targeted drag brunch and they changed the event to make it 18+ years old; then we still went to make sure they didn't get any kids in. We surrounded the people taking their kids into a drag even in the Dallas area, and many of the families left with their children. We weren't harassing, we were praying the rosary.

We have sat around and deeded the public square to the degenerate. You see gay pride parades down mainstreet but do you see Christ? Do you see Eucharistic expositions? Do you see the blessed Mother? We are reclaiming our place in society. This is our country to and like it or not the Republican party is our party. We do not agree that social liberalism has any place in a conservative party; and we will fight it with every bit of energy we have, whether it "sabotages" us or not.

Silian Rail said:

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Its hilarious to watch libertarians and Gary Johnson voters complain that we're bringing the party down with social conservatism.

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It galls them to no end that we won't bow down to leftist social norms of actions without consequences. They think the only thing that matters is economics and small government despite the last decade proving this to be demonstrably untrue.

Somehow they saw the left going after our kids, schools, jobs, and general livelihoods and thought this was a-okay because it didn't matter. Our pushback against that should end the instant some specific action is stopped and we should never use government to codify anything into law because that would be "just like the left".

It's honestly incredible.

The Last Cobra Commander said:

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Yeah, we needed another thread on this, thanks…

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You have a cool username. Made me nostalgic for a second.

Ag_of_08 said:

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But...but...Sarah Palin wasn't a red herring to sink the tea party, there was no hijacking( I remember those arguments on this board oh so well...)

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Ehh? That's the one thing that doesn't make sense here. Palin was the choice of McCain, who was far from being right -- very close to a go-along.

And the Tea Party was hijacked by the go-along GOP-E, not the Religious right????

Definitely Not A Cop said:

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So you aren't of the opinion that if you vote libertarian, you are basically letting the democrats win?

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I'm definitely of the opinion that when we said that libertarians laughed at us and said their vote had to be earned or something that was stupid. You won't find a single one of us on the religious right who won't press the "R" switch for President.

I've voted for McCain, Romney, Trump, Trump. I'll never vote Democrat; but forgive me if I demand a little actual conservatism from the ostensibly conservative party.

Wow - OP is able to tell us he does not understand the enemy, the problem or the solution all in one original post, while asking others to "understand and listen to his wisdom." Ironic, to say the least.

No.

The USA is the single greatest country to ever exist on this Earth. It did so by God's grace and through his blessing. We will not maintain that status without His blessing, and the surest way to ensure our downfall is to ignore His word. I will not comply with the new rules that the left wants to implement and you so graciously have surrendered to them.

You can kindly take your weak kneed, hollow beliefs and defect.

NARROW IS THE PATH

Phatbob said:

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For the love of God, Hyperbole much? Having an agreed upon set of moral definitions is not a "Theocracy".

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You obviously don't know who we're dealing with

"silian rail" said:

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Conservatism does not mean small government, Conservatism should not support deviant behavior, Conservatism should uphold the idea that all rights are endowed by God and he is the source of all law.

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Just like when Sen Lindsey Graham Cracker was tying a presidential bid.
Some dude shouted out that he wanted Lindsey to "Outlaw Islam".
Lindsey said I am not your candidate, vote for someone else.

Smaller govt conservatives who are live and let live and leave me alone generally don't care about what someone else does in the privacy of his/her home as long as it is not violent, exploitive or unnecessarily cruel.