That dumb woman's "testimony" is unraveling extremely fast

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In reply to Marcus Brutus • 7:45a, 6/29/22
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Marcus Brutus said:
Bag said:
goodness, she is the living embodiment, exhibit A, of a useful idiot. She literally just sold out for her 15 minutes of fame. She will be cast aside from the Left and be an absolute pariah for the rest of her life.

Hope it was worth it.

I agree, OF seems to be the logical career route at this point.

Nailed it. She's done in the political arena.
I doubt that, seriously doubt it. Way too many Soros funded think tanks and foundations around for her to get a paycheck. Like 99% of people rotating in and out of the State Department. At one point or another (even several different times) they are on a Soros payroll.

After a few years she'll wind back up on the Hill as a Schiff4Brains type of Dem staffer.

I watched yesterday more out of curiosity than anything else. My sole question was why, if the committee believed her and had corroboration, why wasn't she the lead off witness during the primetime premiere?

Now I know why.
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7:57a, 6/29/22
Typical congressional investigation where hearsay, innuendo, rumor, gossip are all admissible for public mis-consumption.

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8:01a, 6/29/22
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She will get a book deal out of this. Another industry that is full tilt left.
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In reply to Bonfire1996 • 8:02a, 6/29/22
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AgResearch said:
So she lied under oath....


Wonder how much she gettin paid. Or what she's being promised.



So it's Trump fault she lied because he didn't keep her around after he was out of office….


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9:05a, 6/29/22
trump said he want to go to the capitol and his guard would not let him. thats about all i believe from this hag
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In reply to damiond • 9:08a, 6/29/22
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trump said he want to go to the capitol and his guard would not let him. thats about all i believe from this hag
Trump verbally stating he wanted to go somewhere is enough to indict him for insurrection. - Democrats
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In reply to YouBet • 9:09a, 6/29/22
they aint called the dims for nothing
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9:13a, 6/29/22
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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9:14a, 6/29/22
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I wish someone would do a mashup of Johnny Depp reacting to heresay objections in his trial and this woman's testimony.
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9:15a, 6/29/22
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Another Christine crazy-ford
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In reply to Artimus Gordon • 9:17a, 6/29/22
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Another Christine blas-ford
She got an award?! She lied to the point her own friends and family said she was full of *****

Lol. The left is completely devoid of anything that is right and true.
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In reply to AgResearch • 9:40a, 6/29/22
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So she lied under oath....
Did she? Is Tony going to testify under oath? What if he takes the 5th? The car story isn't the only story Tony Ornato denies happening while NOT under oath.
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Around this time, [Pence's national security advisor Keith] Kellogg ran into Tony Ornato in the West Wing. Ornato, who oversaw Secret Service movements, told him that Pence's detail was planning to move the vice president to Joint Base Andrews. "You can't do that, Tony," Kellogg said. "Leave him where he's at. He's got a job to do. I know you guys too well. You'll fly him to Alaska if you have a chance. Don't do it."
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Pence had made clear to [the lead special agent in charge of his protective detail Tim] Giebels the level of his determination and Kellogg said there was no changing it. "He's going to stay there," Kellogg told Ornato. "If he has to wait there all night, he's going to do it." Ornato, through a spokesman, denied having this conversation.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/15/jan-6-i-alone-can-fix-it-book-excerpt/
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9:45a, 6/29/22
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So the left is now going to roll with hearsay as their gotcha?

Hmm, that seems familiar. And it didn't work with an official impeachment much less a fake committee like this one.
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 9:46a, 6/29/22
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AgResearch said:
So she lied under oath....
Did she? Is Tony going to testify under oath? What if he takes the 5th? The car story isn't the only story Tony Ornato denies happening while NOT under oath.
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Around this time, [Pence's national security advisor Keith] Kellogg ran into Tony Ornato in the West Wing. Ornato, who oversaw Secret Service movements, told him that Pence's detail was planning to move the vice president to Joint Base Andrews. "You can't do that, Tony," Kellogg said. "Leave him where he's at. He's got a job to do. I know you guys too well. You'll fly him to Alaska if you have a chance. Don't do it."
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Pence had made clear to [the lead special agent in charge of his protective detail Tim] Giebels the level of his determination and Kellogg said there was no changing it. "He's going to stay there," Kellogg told Ornato. "If he has to wait there all night, he's going to do it." Ornato, through a spokesman, denied having this conversation.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/15/jan-6-i-alone-can-fix-it-book-excerpt/

They won't call him to testify.

We now have three people that have claimed she is lying, including Eric Herschmann who says he wrote the note, not her.

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"The handwritten note that Cassidy Hutchinson testified was written by her was in fact written by Eric Herschmann on January 6, 2021," a spokesperson for Herschmann told ABC News Tuesday evening.



This is Russia hoax, v2
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In reply to aggiehawg • 9:47a, 6/29/22
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aggiehawg said:
Marcus Brutus said:
Bag said:
goodness, she is the living embodiment, exhibit A, of a useful idiot. She literally just sold out for her 15 minutes of fame. She will be cast aside from the Left and be an absolute pariah for the rest of her life.

Hope it was worth it.

I agree, OF seems to be the logical career route at this point.

Nailed it. She's done in the political arena.
I doubt that, seriously doubt it. Way too many Soros funded think tanks and foundations around for her to get a paycheck. Like 99% of people rotating in and out of the State Department. At one point or another (even several different times) they are on a Soros payroll.

After a few years she'll wind back up on the Hill as a Schiff4Brains type of Dem staffer.

I watched yesterday more out of curiosity than anything else. My sole question was why, if the committee believed her and had corroboration, why wasn't she the lead off witness during the primetime premiere?

Now I know why.
I still don't get it.

Trump threw his lunch? So?
Trump wanted to go to the capital? So? To do what, riot or maybe talk everybody down? They don't even assert he wanted to go there for a bad reason.

He grabbed the steering wheel or lunged at a SS agent? Lies, already debunked.
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9:55a, 6/29/22
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Strange how the 4-5 CMs that were crawling all over this board yesterday and breathlessly posting nonstop are completely absent from this thread. So odd.
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In reply to Some Junkie Cosmonaut • 9:56a, 6/29/22
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Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:
Strange how the 4-5 CMs that were crawling all over this board yesterday and breathlessly posting nonstop are completely absent from this thread. So odd.


They're all in meetings. Or zoom calls.
One day at a time.
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In reply to WHOOP!'91 • 9:57a, 6/29/22
WHOOP!'91 said:
aggiehawg said:
Marcus Brutus said:
Bag said:
goodness, she is the living embodiment, exhibit A, of a useful idiot. She literally just sold out for her 15 minutes of fame. She will be cast aside from the Left and be an absolute pariah for the rest of her life.

Hope it was worth it.

I agree, OF seems to be the logical career route at this point.

Nailed it. She's done in the political arena.
I doubt that, seriously doubt it. Way too many Soros funded think tanks and foundations around for her to get a paycheck. Like 99% of people rotating in and out of the State Department. At one point or another (even several different times) they are on a Soros payroll.

After a few years she'll wind back up on the Hill as a Schiff4Brains type of Dem staffer.

I watched yesterday more out of curiosity than anything else. My sole question was why, if the committee believed her and had corroboration, why wasn't she the lead off witness during the primetime premiere?

Now I know why.
I still don't get it.

Trump threw his lunch? So?
Trump wanted to go to the capital? So? To do what, riot or maybe talk everybody down? They don't even assert he wanted to go there for a bad reason.

He grabbed the steering wheel or lunged at a SS agent? Lies, already debunked.

It's nothing but an effort to make him look unhinged. Even if he lunged at the wheel (physically impossible) or at his SS agent (both debunked), that's not a crime.
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In reply to YouBet • 9:57a, 6/29/22
This one detail does not subtract from the massive amount of evidence and testimony (mostly from Republicans in Trump's own administration) that clearly proves:
  • President Trump engaged in a massive effort to knowingly spread false and fraudulent information to the American public claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him. This action was taken after his staff investigated the claims and had told him his assertions were false.
  • President Trump planned to replace the Acting Attorney General, so that the Department of Justice would support his fake election claims.
  • President Trump pressured Vice President Pence to refuse to count certified electoral votes in violation of the US Constitution and the law. This action was taken after his lawyer, Eastman, admitted it was illegal.
  • President Trump pressured state election officials, and state legislators, to change election results.
  • President Trump instructed his legal team and other Trump associates to have Republicans create false electoral slates and transmit those slates to Congress and the National Archives.
  • President Trump summoned and assembled a mob in Washington and directed them to march on the US Capitol to stop the peaceful transfer of power, knowing they were armed (see yesterday's testimony). Trump also said in his speech that he would join the mob at the Capitol and we have testimony that his Secret Service detail would not allow him to attend.
  • As the violence was underway, President Trump not only ignored multiple pleas for assistance, failed to take immediate action to stop the violence, failed to instruct his supporters to leave the Capitol, but he also targeted the U.S. Vice President when he knew (testimony confirms) people in the Capitol were threatening his life.
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 9:58a, 6/29/22
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So when will he prosecuted? Seems like an open and shut case. Right?
One day at a time.
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 9:59a, 6/29/22
LOL, love the adjectives.
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In reply to WHOOP!'91 • 10:00a, 6/29/22
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WHOOP!'91 said:
aggiehawg said:
Marcus Brutus said:
Bag said:
goodness, she is the living embodiment, exhibit A, of a useful idiot. She literally just sold out for her 15 minutes of fame. She will be cast aside from the Left and be an absolute pariah for the rest of her life.

Hope it was worth it.

I agree, OF seems to be the logical career route at this point.

Nailed it. She's done in the political arena.
I doubt that, seriously doubt it. Way too many Soros funded think tanks and foundations around for her to get a paycheck. Like 99% of people rotating in and out of the State Department. At one point or another (even several different times) they are on a Soros payroll.

After a few years she'll wind back up on the Hill as a Schiff4Brains type of Dem staffer.

I watched yesterday more out of curiosity than anything else. My sole question was why, if the committee believed her and had corroboration, why wasn't she the lead off witness during the primetime premiere?

Now I know why.
I still don't get it.

Trump threw his lunch? So?
Trump wanted to go to the capital? So? To do what, riot or maybe talk everybody down? They don't even assert he wanted to go there for a bad reason.

He grabbed the steering wheel or lunged at a SS agent? Lies, already debunked.
I don't either. I'm really confused as to what the gotcha is supposed to be.

Even if he lunged towards the steering wheel which has apparently been shown to be a lie...who cares?

Meanwhile, Biden is on video being a slack jawed yokel at the G7 while being told his energy policy is a failure...by France.

Baffling.
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 10:08a, 6/29/22
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Carolin_Gallego said:
This one detail does not subtract from the massive amount of evidence and testimony (mostly from Republicans in Trump's own administration) that clearly proves:
  • President Trump engaged in a massive effort to knowingly spread false and fraudulent information to the American public claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him. This action was taken after his staff investigated the claims and had told him his assertions were false.
  • President Trump then corruptly planned to replace the Acting Attorney General, so that the Department of Justice would support his fake election claims.
  • President Trump then corruptly pressured Vice President Pence to refuse to count certified electoral votes in violation of the US Constitution and the law. This action was taken after his lawyer, Eastman, admitted it was illegal.
  • President Trump then corruptly pressured state election officials, and state legislators, to change election results.
  • President Trump then instructed his legal team and other Trump associates to have Republicans create false electoral slates and transmit those slates to Congress and the National Archives.
  • President Trump then summoned and assembled a mob in Washington and directed them to march on the US Capitol to stop the peaceful transfer of power, knowing they were armed (see yesterday's testimony). Trump also said in his speech that he would join the mob at the Capitol and we have testimony that his Secret Service detail would not allow him to attend.
  • As the violence was underway, President Trump not only ignored multiple pleas for assistance, failed to take immediate action to stop the violence, failed to instruct his supporters to leave the Capitol, but he also targeted the U.S. Vice President when he knew (testimony confirms) people in the Capitol were threatening his life.
Trump cultists don't care. There's a few moderates who will swing to agree that Orange Man Bad on Jan 6. Everyone else on the left already hated Trump anyway, so it changes nothing for them.

He also told the Oath Keepers or Proud Boys to "stand back and stand by." Very poor "choice" of words. Then he gave the "fight like hell" speech on Jan 6 when people around him were trying to get him to omit it. The fact, standing alone, that they would even set or participate in a rally on Jan 6 and tell people to march on the Capitol was irresponsible. His comments about Pence were too.

The biggest thing about yesterday was it was a window into his mindset that day, and it was not at all what you'd want it to be. However, I'm giving this a 48 hour rule and probably even longer after the Russia hoax. And I want to hear more from the USSS.

I don't know if any crimes were committed (other than the one on ketchup.) but I think we have firmly established that Orange Man was, in fact, BAD.

Hopefully it results in DeSantis 2024. I'm not voting for Biden again.
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In reply to aginlakeway • 10:09a, 6/29/22
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aginlakeway said:
So when will he prosecuted? Seems like an open and shut case. Right?
Is there somewhere to bet on this? Because I'd bet big $$$ that no prosecution happens on Trump.
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 10:16a, 6/29/22
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Carolin_Gallego said:
This one detail does not subtract from the massive amount of evidence and testimony (mostly from Republicans in Trump's own administration) that clearly proves:
  • President Trump engaged in a massive effort to knowingly spread false and fraudulent information to the American public claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him. This action was taken after his staff investigated the claims and had told him his assertions were false.
  • President Trump planned to replace the Acting Attorney General, so that the Department of Justice would support his fake election claims.
  • President Trump pressured Vice President Pence to refuse to count certified electoral votes in violation of the US Constitution and the law. This action was taken after his lawyer, Eastman, admitted it was illegal.
  • President Trump pressured state election officials, and state legislators, to change election results.
  • President Trump instructed his legal team and other Trump associates to have Republicans create false electoral slates and transmit those slates to Congress and the National Archives.
  • President Trump summoned and assembled a mob in Washington and directed them to march on the US Capitol to stop the peaceful transfer of power, knowing they were armed (see yesterday's testimony). Trump also said in his speech that he would join the mob at the Capitol and we have testimony that his Secret Service detail would not allow him to attend.
  • As the violence was underway, President Trump not only ignored multiple pleas for assistance, failed to take immediate action to stop the violence, failed to instruct his supporters to leave the Capitol, but he also targeted the U.S. Vice President when he knew (testimony confirms) people in the Capitol were threatening his life.


Signature says he wants discussion, but he only cuts/pastes someone else's talking points.

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In reply to GeorgiAg • 10:20a, 6/29/22
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GeorgiAg said:
Carolin_Gallego said:
This one detail does not subtract from the massive amount of evidence and testimony (mostly from Republicans in Trump's own administration) that clearly proves:
  • President Trump engaged in a massive effort to knowingly spread false and fraudulent information to the American public claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him. This action was taken after his staff investigated the claims and had told him his assertions were false.
  • President Trump then corruptly planned to replace the Acting Attorney General, so that the Department of Justice would support his fake election claims.
  • President Trump then corruptly pressured Vice President Pence to refuse to count certified electoral votes in violation of the US Constitution and the law. This action was taken after his lawyer, Eastman, admitted it was illegal.
  • President Trump then corruptly pressured state election officials, and state legislators, to change election results.
  • President Trump then instructed his legal team and other Trump associates to have Republicans create false electoral slates and transmit those slates to Congress and the National Archives.
  • President Trump then summoned and assembled a mob in Washington and directed them to march on the US Capitol to stop the peaceful transfer of power, knowing they were armed (see yesterday's testimony). Trump also said in his speech that he would join the mob at the Capitol and we have testimony that his Secret Service detail would not allow him to attend.
  • As the violence was underway, President Trump not only ignored multiple pleas for assistance, failed to take immediate action to stop the violence, failed to instruct his supporters to leave the Capitol, but he also targeted the U.S. Vice President when he knew (testimony confirms) people in the Capitol were threatening his life.
Trump cultists don't care. There's a few moderates who will swing to agree that Orange Man Bad on Jan 6. Everyone else on the left already hated Trump anyway, so it changes nothing for them.

He also told the Oath Keepers or Proud Boys to "stand back and stand by." Very poor "choice" of words. Then he gave the "fight like hell" speech on Jan 6 when people around him were trying to get him to omit it. The fact, standing alone, that they would even set or participate in a rally on Jan 6 and tell people to march on the Capitol was irresponsible. His comments about Pence were too.

The biggest thing about yesterday was it was a window into his mindset that day, and it was not at all what you'd want it to be. However, I'm giving this a 48 hour rule and probably even longer after the Russia hoax. And I want to hear more from the USSS.

I don't know if any crimes were committed (other than the one on ketchup.) but I think we have firmly established that Orange Man was, in fact, BAD.

Hopefully it results in DeSantis 2024. I'm not voting for Biden again.
So, if one looks at the 2020 election in its entirety and suspects foul play, they are a Trump cultist? All of Keef's points are BS. Trump pressured, Trump engaged. Boo friggin' hoo. He realized the election was stolen and was trying - through LEGAL means - to get it overturned.

Trump explicitly told everyone to peacefully protest, yet you put more weight in the idea that the inferences you assign to him carry more weight.

Orange man had some bad points, but how much better would the US and the entire world be right now if mush-headed people ruled by their emotions and belief in lies fed to them by the MSM hadn't voted for Biden because of those bad points?

This faeces show we have going on right now? Your fault.
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In reply to WHOOP!'91 • 10:39a, 6/29/22
WHOOP!'91 said:
aggiehawg said:
Marcus Brutus said:
Bag said:
goodness, she is the living embodiment, exhibit A, of a useful idiot. She literally just sold out for her 15 minutes of fame. She will be cast aside from the Left and be an absolute pariah for the rest of her life.

Hope it was worth it.

I agree, OF seems to be the logical career route at this point.

Nailed it. She's done in the political arena.
I doubt that, seriously doubt it. Way too many Soros funded think tanks and foundations around for her to get a paycheck. Like 99% of people rotating in and out of the State Department. At one point or another (even several different times) they are on a Soros payroll.

After a few years she'll wind back up on the Hill as a Schiff4Brains type of Dem staffer.

I watched yesterday more out of curiosity than anything else. My sole question was why, if the committee believed her and had corroboration, why wasn't she the lead off witness during the primetime premiere?

Now I know why.
I still don't get it.

Trump threw his lunch? So?
Trump wanted to go to the capital? So? To do what, riot or maybe talk everybody down? They don't even assert he wanted to go there for a bad reason.

He grabbed the steering wheel or lunged at a SS agent? Lies, already debunked.


Thank you. I have been thinking that too. Even if the entire crazy story that has been refuted by multiple people was true, what does that prove? It makes Trump look bad for basically not controlling his anger, but it does not prove any kind of sedition attempt. Hard to take them seriously when they have never shown in the hearing where Trump said to march to the capitol "peacefully and patriotically". They have shown no actual evidence of him directing anyone to be violent that day that I've seen.

If only we had this level of insight into the Biden administration, Obama Administration, or anything Hillary Clinton. I bet a one-sided show like this would be more damaging to them than it has been for Trump. Imagine what all those phone records and selective witness testimonies without any cross examination could show. But, Republicans never play the same game, always on defense it seems.
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10:40a, 6/29/22
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The one way in which this whole thing could be redeemed is if one of our learned TexAgs Knox Apprentices would create a Knoxian interpretation of this event. With his long ties and tiny hands, Trump is the ideal Knoxian form. I'm sure the USSS had a dog or two in the limo.

I mean, how could his tiny hands even grip the wheel?
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In reply to WildcatAg • 10:43a, 6/29/22
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WildcatAg said:
The one way in which this whole thing could be redeemed is if one of our learned TexAgs Knox Apprentices would create a Knoxian interpretation of this event. With his long ties and tiny hands, Trump is the ideal Knoxian form. I'm sure the USSS had a dog or two in the limo.

I mean, how could his tiny hands even grip the wheel?
The video is out there:



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10:50a, 6/29/22
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Ketchup on the wall? Hillary says "hold my beer!"
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 10:50a, 6/29/22
The problem with your entire post is the widespread use of "false" and "fraudulent". You know full well that there is a mountain of evidence that the elections are suspect. Just because you won't look at it or don't hear it on the news doesn't mean it doesn't exist. So for me it boils down to this: is it more patriotic to willfully go along with a stolen election or to condemn the fraud and demand inquiry and accountability? For democracy to survive it has to be the latter. Unfortunately you and the press believe it's best to accept and turn away from it and move on which will only invite more corruption.
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10:56a, 6/29/22
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In reply to Stat Monitor Repairman • 10:59a, 6/29/22
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I know I always dress my table and chair legs in pants.

"Tableclothes" really?
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 11:04a, 6/29/22
Carolin_Gallego said:

  • President Trump engaged in a massive effort to knowingly spread false and fraudulent information to the American public claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him. This action was taken after his staff investigated the claims and had told him his assertions were false.
Even if true...this is what democrat politicians (and many republicans, but largely democrats) do. Like almost all they do. Lie. Look at what some very prominent democrat leaders are saying lately, esp in regards to some of the recent SCOTUS rulings. Literally calling for "payback"...while lying about the rulings to fool their base.
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In reply to aginlakeway • 11:13a, 6/29/22
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aginlakeway said:
Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:
Strange how the 4-5 CMs that were crawling all over this board yesterday and breathlessly posting nonstop are completely absent from this thread. So odd.


They're all in meetings. Or zoom calls.

A couple have come back wearing their clown hats. Let's try our best to not make fun of them. After all, being brainwashed is not a laughing matter.
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