Hate group comes out in Idaho

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Daddy
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To tell it's absolutely a setup all the men were in shape, white supremecist aren't all in shape especially if they got money and are older. They like bbq and beer

It cost money to be financed. 25 year olds don't have money. Only 18 year old Trans that get bullied and live with grandma that work 11 hours pee week at wendys
Dad-O-Lot
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"Hey guys, let's riot"

"Great idea, I'll make the t-shirts"
Buck Turgidson
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The FBI has a long history of brutal suppression and even outright murder of right wingers out in the mountain west. If those aren't all feds, I guess they're lucky the FBI didn't just kill all of them outright. They're probably disappointed there weren't any women, children and pets they could shoot.
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Artorias said:

This seems oddly similar to the Charlottesville "supremacists" that all dressed like frat boys carrying tiki torches. Totally legit. No feds involved at all.
The nazis legit planned that aspect of it (you can read it in their leaked chat transcripts). The intent was that, by dressing in polos and maga hats, if they met with resistance it would look like people attacking normie Trump supporters.
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Quartz said:

No tats on the exposed arms. No facial hair. These are not civilians wanting to start something. 100% feds.


This is a great point. Since when do so many clean cut fit dudes just decide "you know what, I'm going to go from nothing edgy to full out organized protest detail".

Maybe someone was worried about offending the hipsters or even worse have the general public confuse them with hipsters, then to avoid that, the best optics are to go for "white male Sunday school teacher" look.
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Proc92 said:

Counter-protestors must be arrested before they get there. Welcome to America, comrade.
Welcome to anarcho-tyranny.
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Emotional Support Cobra said:

Why were the masks not taken down to check IDs? Oh yes because they are FBI agents!


Also, why are they not sweating? The last time I checked, the back of a Uhaul has no A/C. If they were packed in there, I would think we would see the sweat on their shirts or hats.
Also, why are the pictures only of their backs? You would think someone would go around and try to picture their faces.
This smells of conspiracy.
JohnFootball2
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AggDogg61 said:

Emotional Support Cobra said:

Why were the masks not taken down to check IDs? Oh yes because they are FBI agents!


Also, why are they not sweating? The last time I checked, the back of a Uhaul has no A/C. If they were packed in there, I would think we would see the sweat on their shirts or hats.
Also, why are the pictures only of their backs? You would think someone would go around and try to picture their faces.
This smells of conspiracy.


You must not of looked at any news site. Their faces and names are out there. Not FBI, not a conspiracy.
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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i always wear a uniform when i am looking to commit a crime.

bogus
pressitup
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I guess Antifa was never charged with "conspiracy to riot" because they actually did riot.
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nortex97 said:

I suspect the FBI is involved here.

I have no knowledge of this group, they seem like dimwits, but the FBI plants evidence/creates plots and in general I would never on a jury vote to convict someone if the FBI was involved unless I was absolutely sure they were guilty (way beyond reasonable doubt).

The FBI must be abolished. The left has to give up their stasi/brownshirts before I will take federal prosecutions seriously again, especially in the realm of politics/guns/protests.


Even if you don't have any knowledge of the group that makes it suspicious? They are posted on f16 and every major news outlet every other month when they hold their main events.
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"31 people from all over the country who were inside a U-Haul were arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to riot."

And yet, these people publicly announce their intention to do exactly that, no "suspicion" involved.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/shutdowndc-group-plans-blockade-supreme-court-jail-support

Just like the summer of love "peaceful protests," leftists have free reign to actually blockade, riot, loot, burn, and form "autonomous zones," … but if a group appearing to be too "right wing" dresses the same, "plans" to protest a lefty sacred cow - but hasn't done anything yet - they must be arrested immediately before they can unleash Order 66. Because we have to continually promote this idea of the great White Supremacy scourge terrorizing the nation.
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Quote:

Police led the men, one by one, to the front of patrol cars, took off their masks and then brought them to a police van.

Those arrested came from at least 11 states, including Washington, Oregon, Texas, Utah, Colorado, South Dakota, Illinois, Wyoming, Virginia and Arkansas, White said.

Only one was from Idaho, he said.
One?

NPR
Maroon Dawn
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Thaddeus Beauregard said:

"31 people from all over the country who were inside a U-Haul were arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to riot."

And yet, these people publicly announce their intention to do exactly that, no "suspicion" involved.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/shutdowndc-group-plans-blockade-supreme-court-jail-support

Just like the summer of love "peaceful protests," leftists have free reign to actually blockade, riot, loot, burn, and form "autonomous zones," … but if a group appearing to be too "right wing" dresses the same, "plans" to protest a lefty sacred cow - but hasn't done anything yet - they must be arrested immediately before they can unleash Order 66. Because we have to continually promote this idea of the great White Supremacy scourge terrorizing the nation.


This

The scariest thing here is the fact that Leftys on here have no problem with the 3rd world level corruption and separate systems of justice on display here where allies of the regime can do whatever illegal **** they want with no consequences while anyone opposed to the regime is harassed and their civil rights trampled
No Longer Subsribed
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Bingo. The people protesting at a justice's home are in fact committing a crime, since it is intended to intimidate. But normal protesters who happen to be white are arrested. Banana republic.

On another note, I am happy to report that my son (FTAB '17) wasn't arrested - he was at Kootenai Hospital in Coeur d'Alene with his wife ('18) for the delivery of my fourth grandchild ('44). But he was there in spirit.


fixer
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This looks like racial profiling.
nortex97
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JohnFootball2 said:

nortex97 said:

I suspect the FBI is involved here.

I have no knowledge of this group, they seem like dimwits, but the FBI plants evidence/creates plots and in general I would never on a jury vote to convict someone if the FBI was involved unless I was absolutely sure they were guilty (way beyond reasonable doubt).

The FBI must be abolished. The left has to give up their stasi/brownshirts before I will take federal prosecutions seriously again, especially in the realm of politics/guns/protests.


Even if you don't have any knowledge of the group that makes it suspicious? They are posted on f16 and every major news outlet every other month when they hold their main events.
I haven't seen those posts and I rarely miss threads that are read by a lot. Maybe someone can educate me where patriot post events are supported on f16. Thank you.

What I think is that these idiots are clowns.





I think less of the FBI, because they have lied to the American public for many years, planted a ton of evidence even about multiple governor kidnapping plots, spied on the executive branch illegally based on false affidavits to FISA courts, supported an impeachment that was a farce, and have in general been political frauds since Hoover was in charge, while now their leader Wray claims 'white supremacists' are the biggest threat to the republic. I've never even met a white supremacist, and I'm in my mid-40's.

Now, if "patriot front" is molesting kids and charged and I'm on the jury, sure, I'll listen to the evidence. The real enemy of the state though aren't some bigots who might have rented a uhaul to potentially go somewhere to 'riot' but, rather, the leftists in DOJ/FBI, imho. I don't advocate violence against the latter, to be clear, but a wholesale legislative fix.
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Maroon Dawn said:

Thaddeus Beauregard said:

"31 people from all over the country who were inside a U-Haul were arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to riot."

And yet, these people publicly announce their intention to do exactly that, no "suspicion" involved.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/shutdowndc-group-plans-blockade-supreme-court-jail-support

Just like the summer of love "peaceful protests," leftists have free reign to actually blockade, riot, loot, burn, and form "autonomous zones," … but if a group appearing to be too "right wing" dresses the same, "plans" to protest a lefty sacred cow - but hasn't done anything yet - they must be arrested immediately before they can unleash Order 66. Because we have to continually promote this idea of the great White Supremacy scourge terrorizing the nation.


This

The scariest thing here is the fact that Leftys on here have no problem with the 3rd world level corruption and separate systems of justice on display here where allies of the regime can do whatever illegal **** they want with no consequences while anyone opposed to the regime is harassed and their civil rights trampled
I thought it was the FBI so what's the issue?
JohnFootball2
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northeastag said:

I never heard of this group until today, but looked at their website to see who they are. Lots of prior events and videos of them marching, chanting and speaking. All pro-American stuff, so I don't see why some are calling them anti-American. Also, read through their manifesto and didn't see anything that rang out "white supremacy ". I'm probably not reading through the lines, as it was long and pretty boring stuff.

Perhaps someone can point out from their official information where the white supremacy comes from.

I wouldn't want to be part of any group where I had to hide my face, so that makes me somewhat suspicious, but hey, it could just be done to avoid harassment in their lives.


Their only crimes are mostly vandalism when they post their banners and signs. They do have a slight history before of being involved in white nationalist events but created this group after they split off vanguard at Charlottesville. They wanted to distance themselves from the darker sign and violence of other groups. They are against drugs and alcohol and only use defensive positions at events (reason they have shields to protect themselves).

The reason they wear masks is to protect their identity and not get doxxed, lose job, etc. If we continue this way and have another tea party movement guaranteed people would lose their job for attending. It's the smart and only move for the right currently.
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nortex97 said:

JohnFootball2 said:

nortex97 said:

I suspect the FBI is involved here.

I have no knowledge of this group, they seem like dimwits, but the FBI plants evidence/creates plots and in general I would never on a jury vote to convict someone if the FBI was involved unless I was absolutely sure they were guilty (way beyond reasonable doubt).

The FBI must be abolished. The left has to give up their stasi/brownshirts before I will take federal prosecutions seriously again, especially in the realm of politics/guns/protests.


Even if you don't have any knowledge of the group that makes it suspicious? They are posted on f16 and every major news outlet every other month when they hold their main events.
I haven't seen those posts and I rarely miss threads that are read by a lot. Maybe someone can educate me where patriot post events are supported on f16. Thank you.

What I think is that these idiots are clowns.





I think less of the FBI, because they have lied to the American public for many years, planted a ton of evidence even about multiple governor kidnapping plots, spied on the executive branch illegally based on false affidavits to FISA courts, supported an impeachment that was a farce, and have in general been political frauds since Hoover was in charge, while now their leader Wray claims 'white supremacists' are the biggest threat to the republic. I've never even met a white supremacist, and I'm in my mid-40's.

Now, if "patriot front" is molesting kids and charged and I'm on the jury, sure, I'll listen to the evidence. The real enemy of the state though aren't some bigots who might have rented a uhaul to potentially go somewhere to 'riot' but, rather, the leftists in DOJ/FBI, imho. I don't advocate violence against the latter, to be clear, but a wholesale legislative fix.



No one's been actively supporting this group. However, they are a non threat as they use non-violence and are 100% better than any group coming from the left.
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Here's some footage of the Patriot Front getting rowdy back in December

JohnFootball2
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Easy 8 said:

Here's some footage of the Patriot Front getting rowdy back in December




Funny only reasons they thought it was FBI was because they are well funded and cops didn't stop them for being nonviolent. The gear and technology don't cost aton. They could have a few decent donors or just put their own individual money into it.
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TXAGFAN said:

This thread is crazy. Everything's a conspiracy apparently.


Until its proven to be a fact. Then it doesn't matter and the media won't touch it.
nortex97
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JohnFootball2 said:

Easy 8 said:

Here's some footage of the Patriot Front getting rowdy back in December




Funny only reasons they thought it was FBI was because they are well funded and cops didn't stop them for being nonviolent. The gear and technology don't cost aton. They could have a few decent donors or just put their own individual money into it.
No, the FBI and DOJ-KGB is dedicated to finding, indicting/arresting, and publicizing 'white supremacist groups' as a top threat even vs. ISIS/islamists/muslim terrorists, and that is why people are suspicious. Also, the cop saying that there were 'informants.' Local police in Idaho don't have a lot of informants.

Second, the FBI has a history of setting up political stings, just in the past few years ranging from Roger Stone, to Carter Page, to Gen. Flynn, to Mueller/Weissman, to multiple governor kidnapping schemes (Whitmer/Northam), to J6.

Logically, some FBI involvement/entrapment makes a lot of sense, thus, as our leftist federal police force seeks to create a bogeyman. These are idiots, liable to fall for such tricks, and are in the right realm of 'targets' the FBI wants to set up.

Most of us (as active posters) live in Texas. Has anyone here ever been attacked by a 'white supremacist' group or even approached by one?
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I love how a truckload of these guys can be so deftly intercepted yet the 2020 riots that involved similar tactics were mystifying to LE on every level.
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fixer said:

I love how a truckload of these guys can be so deftly intercepted yet the 2020 riots that involved similar tactics were mystifying to LE on every level.
And how only one of them was from Idaho. Who organized it then? One person?
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nortex97 said:

JohnFootball2 said:

Easy 8 said:

Here's some footage of the Patriot Front getting rowdy back in December




Funny only reasons they thought it was FBI was because they are well funded and cops didn't stop them for being nonviolent. The gear and technology don't cost aton. They could have a few decent donors or just put their own individual money into it.
No, the FBI and DOJ-KGB is dedicated to finding, indicting/arresting, and publicizing 'white supremacist groups' as a top threat even vs. ISIS/islamists/muslim terrorists, and that is why people are suspicious. Also, the cop saying that there were 'informants.' Local police in Idaho don't have a lot of informants.

Second, the FBI has a history of setting up political stings, just in the past few years ranging from Roger Stone, to Carter Page, to Gen. Flynn, to Mueller/Weissman, to multiple governor kidnapping schemes (Whitmer/Northam), to J6.

Logically, some FBI involvement/entrapment makes a lot of sense, thus, as our leftist federal police force seeks to create a bogeyman. These are idiots, liable to fall for such tricks, and are in the right realm of 'targets' the FBI wants to set up.

Most of us (as active posters) live in Texas. Has anyone here ever been attacked by a 'white supremacist' group or even approached by one?


Because there aren't many groups out there anymore. There is definitely an informant in the group but alot of people on here are thinking it's the whole group. Any organization on both sides especially the right have a plant in the ranks. It's the organizations job to find and route it out.
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TxAgswin said:

B-1 83 said:

TxAgswin said:

JohnFootball2 said:

TxAgswin said:

JohnFootball2 said:

I'm surprised it's hard to believe that the right can produce a well organized, funded, media savvy, and fit group. They aren't FBI if you followed their history and these charges are outlandish and should be thrown out. They always march and use defensive positions only. The fact they thought they were there to attack others shows the police have no background on the group.
The right can certainly produce well-organized, funded, media-savvy events. They do it all the time and they are the best in the world at it. I never suggested otherwise.

A bunch of racists in the back of U-Haul is not well-organized, well-funded, or savvy.




So just because they rented a uhaul (which is smart if you are trying not to get doxxed) and believe in white identity and values that makes you unable to be well funded, fit, and media savvy?


You can't be serious.

You are going to rent a vehicle made for moving furniture and put people in it. Attention drawn immediately.

You are renting it so you have to use a credit card and visit the place twice and fill out **** tons of paperwork. The miles will be tracked. There is a GPS in all of them.

Very savvy.

White supremacists are typically rednecks.

Use your pickup trucks, morons.

Isn't this like saying "Gays are typically groomers. Stay in your bathhouses and gay bars, morons." ?*. Both are unnecessarily insulting and derogatory.



*Was that "framed" properly, staff?
No, it's not the same thing at all. White supremacists are fair game because they aim to oppress people for no other reason than that they are different. And they often do it violently.

Gay people are just gay people. They just want to be left alone. They don't try to intimidate, belittle, or attack any other groups of people.

A neighborhood that is known to be predominantly gay is usually extremely safe and clean. Your wife buys antiques and expensive candles and **** there. A neighborhood that is known to have a bunch of Neo-Nazis is usually a violent, meth-addled ****-hole that you avoid after dark.

Enormous difference.

Clearly just want to be left alone.
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nortex97 said:

I suspect the FBI is involved here.

I have no knowledge of this group, they seem like dimwits, but the FBI plants evidence/creates plots and in general I would never on a jury vote to convict someone if the FBI was involved unless I was absolutely sure they were guilty (way beyond reasonable doubt).

The FBI must be abolished. The left has to give up their stasi/brownshirts before I will take federal prosecutions seriously again, especially in the realm of politics/guns/protests.

The FBI SHOULD be involved here. Just like they SHOULD be involved in busting the idiots protesting at SCOTUS homes. And the BLM and antifa rioters from last summer. Sadly that is not the case.
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TRADUCTOR said:

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They everywhere!


Remember when they found thunder thighs and the other clowns within 30 minutes of them pulling this stunt? They was a pretty fun day.
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I have some sympathy for the run of the mill, everyday, average gay. But the burden is really on them to take the narrative away from the militant, drama seeking factions of their persuasion.
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I thought the proper response to any bad actor of any group was to punish the group. Or, is that just for guns?
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Coeur d'Alene police were clearly told that the Constitution was suspended for June unless you're part of the alphabet soup crowd. Anyone who dares to oppose them is either arrested, or threatened with arrest.

https://redstate.com/streiff/2022/06/11/coeur-dalene-police-threaten-preachers-with-arrest-to-protect-gay-pride-event-in-city-park-n577496
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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