Got job 3 months ago
Worked 3-4 shifts a week = 24-32 hours a week
Made $10 hour
After multiple reprimands, only scheduled 2 shifts a week = 16 hours a week max
Then stopped showing up

Not enough time to save up $7,000 for weapons and ammo.

Credit cards are a hell of a thing. Especially when you don't care about paying them back.

Pawn off some of Abuela's jewelry and steal some drugs from momma that you sell to some folks and money comes faster.

So you're saying we need UBI?

What kind of credit limit would an 18 yr old have

Bonfire1996 said:

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Got job 3 months ago
Worked 3-4 shifts a week = 24-32 hours a week
Made $10 hour
After multiple reprimands, only scheduled 2 shifts a week = 16 hours a week max
Then stopped showing up

Not enough time to save up $7,000 for weapons and ammo.

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Did someone come out and confirm $10/hr?

Most fast food is starting at $13-15 minimum right now.

What is the desired end result from trying to parse out funds?

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What kind of credit limit would an 18 yr old have

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When I was 18, over 20 years ago, I had a $5000 one.

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What kind of credit limit would an 18 yr old have

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When I was 18, over 20 years ago, I had a $5000 one.

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So these CC companies hand out cards without regard for credit worthiness or income?

BigRobSA said:

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What is the desired end result from trying to parse out funds?

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I think some may think he didn't do this solo and believe that the govt or someone like Soros has their hands all up in this.

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What kind of credit limit would an 18 yr old have

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When I was 18, over 20 years ago, I had a $5000 one.

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So these CC companies hand out cards without regard for credit worthiness or income?

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Mid90s at UTSA, everyday under the Sombrilla (outdoor seating for the main building food court), there were CC company reps signing kids up for debt. They had swag to give.

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BigRobSA said:

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What is the desired end result from trying to parse out funds?

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I think some may think he didn't do this solo and believe that the govt or someone like Soros has their hands all up in this.

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Oh. That seems...odd.

What kind of credit limit would an 18 yr old have


Dogs and dead people can get credit cards.

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Tanya 93 said:

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BigRobSA said:

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What is the desired end result from trying to parse out funds?

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I think some may think he didn't do this solo and believe that the govt or someone like Soros has their hands all up in this.

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Oh. That seems...odd.

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Welcome to Texags ! Enjoy your stay!

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What is the desired end result from trying to parse out funds?

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Its likely he took grandmas credit/debit card to buy the weapons. In which case, both he and the firearms dealer broke the law.

The argument the left has right now is that Ramos bought the weapons legally. The minute that doesn't become fact, their argument loses any credibility.

Tanya 93 said:

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BigRobSA said:

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What is the desired end result from trying to parse out funds?

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I think some may think he didn't do this solo and believe that the govt or someone like Soros has their hands all up in this.

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No one is going that far down the rabbit hole. I'm only interested in showing he, or the firearms dealer, broke the law.

Is there a requirement that the person purchasing a firearm be the person named on a credit card?

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Bonfire1996 said:

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Got job 3 months ago
Worked 3-4 shifts a week = 24-32 hours a week
Made $10 hour
After multiple reprimands, only scheduled 2 shifts a week = 16 hours a week max
Then stopped showing up

Not enough time to save up $7,000 for weapons and ammo.

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Did someone come out and confirm $10/hr?

Most fast food is starting at $13-15 minimum right now.

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Not for part time, teenage help.

$13 - $15 is reserved for full time help

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So these CC companies hand out cards without regard for credit worthiness or income?

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For 18-year-olds getting their first cards? **** yes.

If you have no intention of paying the loans back it's not hard to get $10k of liquidity through various online lending sources, regardless of credit.

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Is there a requirement that the person purchasing a firearm be the person named on a credit card?

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Any retail purchase, yes. Without the person named being present, it's theft, and the retailer is the one required to check.

Can you provide a link to it being "theft" if the person with the name on the card is not present?

That does not sound right at all, but don't know either way.

So are we going to find out Ramos didn't really have legal access to guns bc he didn't have legal credit/cash?

I don't think Ramos would ever steal a credit card, just like he would never violate strict gun laws. Just bc he is a psychopath murderer, it doesn't mean he wouldn't obey "common sense gun control".

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Bonfire1996 said:

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Got job 3 months ago
Worked 3-4 shifts a week = 24-32 hours a week
Made $10 hour
After multiple reprimands, only scheduled 2 shifts a week = 16 hours a week max
Then stopped showing up

Not enough time to save up $7,000 for weapons and ammo.

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I thought the weapons he bought were supposedly $3-4K. When did it become $7k?

$10 x 24hrs x 8wk = $1,820

$10 x 32 x 8 + $10 x 15 x 4 = $2,560 $600= $3,160

$13 x 32 x 12 = $4,992

I don't think Wendy's is allowed to disclose any of that information publicly. Maybe he had a job prior to Wendy's?

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Indeed, LOTS of speculation as to what was purchased, and $$$ needed.
A Daniel Defense AR can be bought for under $2k, I have not seen anywhere what the second AR was (so it could be $600 to 2000), the vest he had did not include the plates, and the ammo was likely about $300 max.
But inflated $$ makes for a more sensational story....

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No one is going that far down the rabbit hole. I'm only interested in showing he, or the firearms dealer, broke the law.

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I might be wrong, but I think he broke the law when he started shooting inside city limits, in a school zone, then again when he started murdering people and again when he shot at police.

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What is the desired end result from trying to parse out funds?

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I think some may think he didn't do this solo and believe that the govt or someone like Soros has their hands all up in this.

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Bonfire1996 said:

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BigRobSA said:

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What is the desired end result from trying to parse out funds?

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Its likely he took grandmas credit/debit card to buy the weapons. In which case, both he and the firearms dealer broke the law.

The argument the left has right now is that Ramos bought the weapons legally. The minute that doesn't become fact, their argument loses any credibility.

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Has there been any news about what his beef was with Grandma?

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What kind of credit limit would an 18 yr old have

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When I was 18, over 20 years ago, I had a $5000 one.

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So these CC companies hand out cards without regard for credit worthiness or income?

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Not sure if this still happens but when I was in college I was given (didn't ask for it) a CC with a $30K limit. Completely unsolicited.

I had no job at the time and my previous jobs before that were TCBY and waiting tables. I still have that card although I haven't used it in well over a decade.

You would be naive to think outside forces didn't fund this

And got a free Aggie T-shirt for signing up!

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Tanya 93 said:

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BigRobSA said:

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What is the desired end result from trying to parse out funds?

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I think some may think he didn't do this solo and believe that the govt or someone like Soros has their hands all up in this.

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Well I do think there are some who may fall down the Q rabbit hole.

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And got a free Aggie T-shirt for signing up!

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It wasn't even that! I got it in the mail unsolicited. Open it up and I'm proud owner of a $30K credit line I never asked for.

Lucky me!

At this point, everyone should be open to the idea that being on a fed watch list doesn't imply they're being watched to be stopped but maybe the opposite

BMX Bandit said:

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Is there a requirement that the person purchasing a firearm be the person named on a credit card?

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Not a legal requirement, is my understanding.

I bought a glock for my wife, she filled out the paperwork because it is her gun, and I paid for the gun with my credit card. Zero problems,

However, I would bet that if I had not been present, and my wife tried to pay for the gun with my card, it would have gone against almost any company policy.

If you really want to know the answer to this with references, post it on the outdoor board, you will have 75 responses by the end of the day, and likely 2 or 3 from gun dealers that know all the minutia of these types of laws.

Now, if Grandma had bought the gun for the psychopath, filled out the ATF form with her information, but had used money from psychopath to buy the gun, and then gave the gun to psychopath, that would be a sham sale, and very directly against the law.

Sham sale is when person A fills out the paperwork, but the real person the gun is for is person B, and person B paid person A the money to buy the gun.

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At this point, everyone should be open to the idea that being on a fed watch list doesn't imply they're being watched to be stopped but maybe the opposite

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Yeah, it won't be surprising to learn that it's more of a recruiting service. Feds basically have a fantasy football draft party using the fed watch list.