Shooting Timeline Graphic from San Antonio Paper

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TexasAggie_02
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FCBlitz said:

TexasAggie_02 said:

Horn_in_Aggieland said:

Except they were treating it as a barricaded subject so wouldn't they be trying to talk him out first to avoid further loss of life?

Do you rake and break windows without knowing where the children are?

And I thought I read he was in a closet?

Would be nice getting LE input but I'm sure no one wants to touch this with a 10 foot pole.

Just playing devils advocate.


They had multiple calls from inside the room that ppl were shot and alive. You don't stand around for 1.5 hrs with your dick in your hand waiting on a key. There's 2 classrooms with a shared bath, rattle the door to one class to draw his attention and then either shoot him thru the windows or try to enter thru the adjoining room's windows.

Maybe they didn't know about the shared bath. There's still windows. Someone should have been spotting out the classrooms. You have dozens of guys standing around with ar15s cuffing parents.


This is just wrong.

Mist Ofc those kids were killed in the first 4 minutes.
There were two perimeters outside of building and around the two rooms.
The cops that arrived to site and began mustering around the two classroom kicked off the best moment trip evacuate the rest of the kids and sweep the areas.
BORTECH with armor and additional folks were arriving.

I look at that time line and so much was happening in the first 10 mins must had went by in an instate.


Oh, it's okay to sit around bc most are dead., lets not worry about some that are bleeding out, or calling 911.
agracer
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Ags4DaWin said:

Slide a camera under the door to see where the kids and shooter are. Or drill a hole in the wall and slide a camera in to get a view on the inside.

Have someone rattle a window to distract him while you battering ram the door down.

send someone into the interior ceiling who could then gain access to the room, lift a cieling tile, then shoot the attacker.

verify that no kids are lines up against the wall amd have someone ram a truck through the exterior wall while you bust down the door
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There are a million things that could have been done .

And yet these cowards sat on their thumbs. They should be run out on a rail and this should follow them for the rest of their lives.
They didn't have a ram for the door until the Border Patrol showed up. The others are not practical in the situation. No guarantee of ceiling access and they could not look into the windows as the blinds were closed (as I've read anyway).

They did not sit on their thumbs, they evacuated the rest of the school.

Not saying they were perfect.
TRADUCTOR
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Just throw a sleeping gas bomb in the room.
BusterAg
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Lay on the ground next to the door behind the wall and blow the damn door handle off. Do both at the same time. The direction of aim let's any through bullets and most ricochet go through the ceiling. Yes it's dangerous, and an officer or even a kid might get hurt. But you have to try SOMETHING with what you have.
DirtyMikesBoys
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BaileyAg said:

SVaggie84 said:

I was in a mass shooting.

It just happens so quick. Then you don't know how many people are shooting, and you don't know why.

Your adrenaline is so high. Your instincts take over.

I'm glad I had good instincts. I remember running out of the building on the opposite side of where the shooter came in, and co-workers were just standing around in the parking lot.

I immediately thought he could shoot out the window and ran through the building next door and then into a building even further away.

Then the police wouldn't let us leave and I was stuck for hours .

It's really easy to judge after the fact. Being in the situation is far different.

This was in 1989. I was in Sunnyvale, California. My parents were in Dallas. I did manage to call them and warn them that it would be on the news, and I was ok.




Was this the ESL shootings?


Had to have been, no? But ESL was 1988. Curious as well.

With all due respect to the potential sensitivity* of diving into a traumatic experience, I'm really interested to hear more from a first hand account of something like this.

Just a few months ago a guy came into the office that I was working in just weeks prior and shot his boss in face in Greenway Plaza. Glad I didn't see that or experience it because frankly, I don't know how I wouldn't think about it all the time trying to work in the future.
PooDoo
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Is this true?
Eliminatus
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This whole event exposed the Uvalde LE force.

I was one of those who waited the 48 and yeah, they ****ed up bad to epicly bad. No two ways around it at this point.

I just hope that this is a learning lesson (another one) to other LEOs out there.

Stop the shooter ASAP. That is how you mitigate a tragedy as much as you can in the moment. By any means possible. And yes, that includes extreme risk to your own life.
fixer
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True.
jpb1999
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PooDoo said:

Is this true?



What happened here? Parent? At what time? What did he do once he got in?
Rattler12
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Speaking of the SA Express & News paper....anybody have an opinion of the front page on their Sunday edition paper? IMHO it was in very poor taste and done primarily to try and sell newspapers. Pitiful behavior
TRADUCTOR
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Killed by memes, the Ministry of Truth is gone.
TxTarpon
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More chances for brother in laws to make bank.
PooDoo
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jpb1999 said:

PooDoo said:

Is this true?



What happened here? Parent? At what time? What did he do once he got in?


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