Basic info/profile of the last 12 mass shooters(legal status, age, weapon used, etc)

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CondensedFogAggie
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7:14p, 5/25/22
With so many opinions such as background checks, citizenship, arming citizens, etc etc, this is to maybe get a better picture of the murderers, the response, and what may help reduce casualties in the future.

Left out elements such as motive, hate etc that are long term discussions.

Information is of mass shootings with at least 10 deaths, from the past 6 years. Taken from here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States - Let me know if anything is inaccurate.




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oldord
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7:15p, 5/25/22
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There is a lot of data you left out. Things that are very relevant
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CondensedFogAggie
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In reply to oldord • 7:18p, 5/25/22
oldord said:
There is a lot of data you left out. Things that are very relevant

Agree. I could have put down motives like anti semitism, disgruntled employee, [enter whatever] supremacist, but then that bogs the discussion down into conspiracy theories I noticed.
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7:18p, 5/25/22
It teaches me I want to be the one armed shooting at the killer. How many of the armed people were killed?
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themissinglink
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7:20p, 5/25/22
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He had a troubled past with numerous police incidents I saw this article referenced on twitter today and I'm assuming the shooter was one of the boys arrested. He shouldn't have been allowed to buy a gun.

https://www.kens5.com/article/news/crime/two-teens-arrested-in-mass-casualty-plot-in-2018-targeting-a-uvalde-middle-school/273-548565605
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My Name Is Judge
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7:21p, 5/25/22
So you went back to 2016 to tally up "mass shootings"

Can you go ahead and also tally gun deaths due to inner city violence over the past 6 years as well?
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In reply to CondensedFogAggie • 7:22p, 5/25/22
CondensedFoggyAggie said:
oldord said:
There is a lot of data you left out. Things that are very relevant

Agree. I could have put down motives like anti semitism, disgruntled employee, [enter whatever] supremacist, but then that bogs the discussion down into conspiracy theories I noticed.
Also how many are leftist or registered democrats...its important.
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7:23p, 5/25/22
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Too many questions unanswered about Las Vegas shooting...
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7:24p, 5/25/22
Compared to the number of people shot with pistols this barley moves the needle.
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Rapier108
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7:25p, 5/25/22
Let's see

Guy in Uvalde did not have body armor.

Orlando was a Muslim terror attack.

Santa Fe and Parkland, the nutcases should never have been able to get a gun. His father should have not had it accessible and a 17 year old cannot legally buy a gun.

El Paso was a Bernie bro pissed off at illegal immigration because it meant no UBI, Medicare for all, and every other socialist pipe dream.

Boulder, likely terrorist attack.

And this is just off the top of my head.

Of course you leave out a lot of important details because you're only purpose is to score some kind of leftist points.

And to top it off, you left out numerous others that get added to the statistics, but don't fit your agenda because it is drug/gang related, domestic violence, or one group disses another group of the same type and someone pulls a gun.
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deddog
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In reply to CondensedFogAggie • 7:27p, 5/25/22
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CondensedFoggyAggie said:
With so many opinions such as background checks, citizenship, arming citizens, etc etc, this is to maybe get a better picture of the murderers, the response, and what may help reduce casualties in the future.

Left out elements such as motive, hate etc that are long term discussions.

Information is of mass shootings with at least 10 deaths, from the past 6 years. Taken from here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States - Let me know if anything is inaccurate.


An important and relevant category is planned v/s unplanned.
Most mass shootings are usually planned. There are two notable exceptions - Sandy Hook, and Uvalde. Not sure about the others (latest ones)

Columbine, and VTech as well as most earlier shootings were very well planned. That has implications for how you handle shootings. Orlando, and Vegas were also planned.
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WolfCall
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7:28p, 5/25/22
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Now do political party affiliation of shooters and their families.
You voted for this because you didn't like Mean Tweets?!
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7:30p, 5/25/22
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And how many were from single family homes or on some kind of ADHD or Anti depressant medication.
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In reply to CondensedFogAggie • 7:35p, 5/25/22
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After this thread has run its course you
can start a thread of citizens murdered by their own government after being disarmed by their government. I would be interested in how the numbers stack up.
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In reply to CondensedFogAggie • 7:35p, 5/25/22
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Here's something you left out. The joe Biden factor. Since Biden has become president, what's happened to the rate of blacks killing blacks? You might want to look into it. You don't even need a fancy chart.
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7:35p, 5/25/22
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Guess the deaths by car from dark racist doesn't qualify
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TexasAggie81
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In reply to oldord • 7:37p, 5/25/22
oldord said:
There is a lot of data you left out. Things that are very relevant


That's because the source is Wikipedia… the alleged source of all wisdom and knowledge.
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7:51p, 5/25/22
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Definitely an antisocial or disturbed male problem, and mostly young adult.
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7:53p, 5/25/22
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Well if wikipedia said it, must be true.
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Frederick Palowaski
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In reply to My Name Is Judge • 7:58p, 5/25/22
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My Name Is Judge said:
So you went back to 2016 to tally up "mass shootings"

Can you go ahead and also tally gun deaths due to inner city violence over the past 6 years as well?


And now you'll never hear from him again.
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7:58p, 5/25/22
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Where is the Yes/No false flag column?
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In reply to CondensedFogAggie • 8:05p, 5/25/22
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Where's the Dayton shooting?
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8:10p, 5/25/22
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I can only make one conclusion from that table. When seconds count, the police are minutes away.
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Rapier108
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In reply to deddog • 8:12p, 5/25/22
Uvalde was definitely planned, but the loser didn't even carry it out the way he wanted. He was targeting the high school class that would have been visiting the school, but he got the day wrong.
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In reply to TRM • 8:13p, 5/25/22
TRM said:
Where's the Dayton shooting?
That was done by an admitted antifa member so down the memory hole it went.
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8:13p, 5/25/22
Add in catergory for SSRIs and other psychotropic medication.
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In reply to Rapier108 • 8:17p, 5/25/22
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Terror attack or crazy murderer, honestly in this context what%92s the difference? The difference is goals and ideologies which is kind of irrelevant.
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In reply to CondensedFogAggie • 8:23p, 5/25/22
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The Uvalde shooter did not have body armor. That is misinformation that was cleared up early this morning.
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In reply to themissinglink • 8:26p, 5/25/22
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themissinglink said:
He had a troubled past with numerous police incidents I saw this article referenced on twitter today and I'm assuming the shooter was one of the boys arrested. He shouldn't have been allowed to buy a gun.

https://www.kens5.com/article/news/crime/two-teens-arrested-in-mass-casualty-plot-in-2018-targeting-a-uvalde-middle-school/273-548565605
Wow
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8:28p, 5/25/22
Length of time weapon owned would be interesting
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In reply to MaroonStain • 8:29p, 5/25/22
MaroonStain said:
Too many questions unanswered about Las Vegas shooting...


There is no way that guy used an AR-15 with a bump stock. The rate of fire is much higher and it sounds very different.

That event was very very different from the others and had a whole bunch of really strange aspects to it that don't fit any of the other shootings.

I am firmly convinced that was a government op gone very very badly.
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8:30p, 5/25/22
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If you pick and choose which facts to share, no wonder we cannot have meaningful discussions about how to prevent these crimes
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In reply to BAP Enthusiast • 8:33p, 5/25/22
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MaroonStain said:
Too many questions unanswered about Las Vegas shooting...


There is no way that guy used an AR-15 with a bump stock. The rate of fire is much higher and it sounds very different.

That event was very very different from the others and had a whole bunch of really strange aspects to it that don't fit any of the other shootings.

I am firmly convinced that was a government op gone very very badly.
I work with numerous veterans and every single one of them say it sounds like a M240B. One of them was even on the receiving end of an M240B when one of his unit's gunners opened fire on his squad by accident. Thankfully no one was hurt.

Whether it was or wasn't, I have no idea. I've seen a M240B once, but never shot one or heard it fired.
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In reply to themissinglink • 8:35p, 5/25/22
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themissinglink said:
He had a troubled past with numerous police incidents I saw this article referenced on twitter today and I'm assuming the shooter was one of the boys arrested. He shouldn't have been allowed to buy a gun.

https://www.kens5.com/article/news/crime/two-teens-arrested-in-mass-casualty-plot-in-2018-targeting-a-uvalde-middle-school/273-548565605
The shooter's birthday is May 17th, so based on the written date he couldn't be the older kid. Maybe the younger one?
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In reply to Rapier108 • 9:02p, 5/25/22
Rapier108 said:
BAP Enthusiast said:
MaroonStain said:
Too many questions unanswered about Las Vegas shooting...


There is no way that guy used an AR-15 with a bump stock. The rate of fire is much higher and it sounds very different.

That event was very very different from the others and had a whole bunch of really strange aspects to it that don't fit any of the other shootings.

I am firmly convinced that was a government op gone very very badly.
I work with numerous veterans and every single one of them say it sounds like a M240B. One of them was even on the receiving end of an M240B when one of his unit's gunners opened fire on his squad by accident. Thankfully no one was hurt.

Whether it was or wasn't, I have no idea. I've seen a M240B once, but never shot one or heard it fired.


Seems like this would be easy to determine. Any 7.62 rounds found at the shooting, or did they find 5.56/.223?


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/las-vegas-autopsy-documents_n_5a8234efe4b01467fcf08b97

Looking at autopsy notes, I'm not a ballistics expert, but not too many 7.62 change direction inside the body. Seems like it would be more likely to be .223.

Let me know if you find anything further. It would be interesting indeed if it was a M240B
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