Old Navy's inclusive sizing problem

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techno-ag
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So the chain wanted to be more inclusive with women's clothes. So the chain said everything will henceforth be available in sizes 0 to 30. Also to demonstrate they are accepting of all, the sizes would be ordered in equal numbers each, showing no preference and thus displaying fairness.

Whoda thunk it? Now they've got an overstock of extra smalls and XXXXL stuff and are sold out of the popular sizes. It's like virtue signaling trumped sales data or something.

Go woke, go broke Old Navy.

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/old-navy-made-clothing-sizes-for-everyone-it-backfired-11653055207

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Billed as one of the biggest launches in the brand's history, Old Navy in August began offering all women's clothing styles in size 0 to 30 and XS to 4X, making it one of the first retailers to place such a big bet on inclusive sizing. It did away with separate petite and plus-size departments and grouped all sizes of each style together. Mannequins in varying body shapes displayed the new wares. All sizes of a style were priced the same, a break with an industry practice in which retailers charge more for larger sizes.

Soon after, however, Old Navy's sales started to nosedive. Last month, Nancy Green, the chain's president and chief executive, stepped down after less than two years running the brand. Gap warned that sales for the spring quarter would fall short of expectations in part due to troubles at Old Navy.
Trump will fix it.
_mpaul
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Who could have possibly seen this coming?

Oh yeah, everyone who has the slightest clue about basic economics.

Wait, basic economics was "discovered" by cis white men like Adam Smith, Hayek, and Milton Friedman. That must be the problem.
Tom Doniphon
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When emotions are allowed to outweigh (no pun intended) simple economics...
Keegan99
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Thinking there is a uniform distribution for a non-uniform phenomenon is an error bright high schoolers learn not make. Or, anyone that's ever played craps - a 7 is a lot more likely than a 12.

But not woke business executives, apparently.
1872walker
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This is two-teas level stupidity.
rocky the dog
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Jason_Roofer
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They could have just gone down to my local tractor supply and checked out the clearance rack to understand needs. Right now, there is an entire rack of XS and 4XL shirts that they can't give away.
Burrus86
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Super obese people can't get out of their own bed much less go shopping.
rilloaggie
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Jason_InfinityRoofer said:

They could have just gone down to my local tractor supply and checked out the clearance rack to understand needs. Right now, there is an entire rack of XS and 4XL shirts that they can't give away.


Identical on the sales rack at every Academy I've ever been to. Tons of small and xxl+ stuff marked down to next to nothing while the medium/large is usually sold out.
_mpaul
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Tom Doniphon said:

When emotions are allowed to outweigh (no pun intended) simple economics...
Yeah, it was. You know it was. And that's very heteronormative cis male white privilege of you.
Will Hunt
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rilloaggie said:

Jason_InfinityRoofer said:

They could have just gone down to my local tractor supply and checked out the clearance rack to understand needs. Right now, there is an entire rack of XS and 4XL shirts that they can't give away.


As a 3xl wearing 6'4" guy, I find a hard time finding them on sales racks... must just be me.

Identical on the sales rack at every Academy I've ever been to. Tons of small and xxl+ stuff marked down to next to nothing while the medium/large is usually sold out.
YouBet
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That is hilarious. Marxism in action.

And they still won't get it.
Madman
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They should also be shamed for attacking our Mother Earth Goddess with their wasteful overproduction.

Do you know how much water it takes to make a single garment? Neither do I but im told its a lot.

https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/feature/2019/09/23/costo-moda-medio-ambiente
Johnny Park!
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Pro tip : Old Navy is trash
We should never cede the moral high ground to people who justify the debasement of society as reparative justice and then lie to us about how, why and even whether it’s
being destroyed from within.
Cinco Ranch Aggie
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It's like these people never took any kind of very basic business class.
cbaker20
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Well that was dumb. Why on earth would you make equal amounts for outlier sizes?
techno-ag
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cbaker20 said:

Well that was dumb. Why on earth would you make equal amounts for outlier sizes?
Because, you know, equity.
Trump will fix it.
1872walker
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techno-ag said:

cbaker20 said:

Well that was dumb. Why on earth would you make equal amounts for outlier sizes?
Because, you know, equity.


Certainly not shareholder equity.
CDUB98
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Good gawd. This **** is business school 101, and the people who run that place are too stupid to even understand that.

The company deserves to go under with this level of dumbass.
A New Hope
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techno-ag said:

So the chain wanted to be more inclusive with women's clothes. So the chain said everything will henceforth be available in sizes 0 to 30. Also to demonstrate they are accepting of all, the sizes would be ordered in equal numbers each, showing no preference and thus displaying fairness.

Whoda thunk it? Now they've got an overstock of extra smalls and XXXXL stuff and are sold out of the popular sizes. It's like virtue signaling trumped sales data or something.

Go woke, go broke Old Navy.

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/old-navy-made-clothing-sizes-for-everyone-it-backfired-11653055207

Quote:

Billed as one of the biggest launches in the brand's history, Old Navy in August began offering all women's clothing styles in size 0 to 30 and XS to 4X, making it one of the first retailers to place such a big bet on inclusive sizing. It did away with separate petite and plus-size departments and grouped all sizes of each style together. Mannequins in varying body shapes displayed the new wares. All sizes of a style were priced the same, a break with an industry practice in which retailers charge more for larger sizes.

Soon after, however, Old Navy's sales started to nosedive. Last month, Nancy Green, the chain's president and chief executive, stepped down after less than two years running the brand. Gap warned that sales for the spring quarter would fall short of expectations in part due to troubles at Old Navy.

Hahahahahahaha
Trajan88
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Is not there a whole science/discipline devoted to order mgmt. operations/logistics/supply chain?

Looks that The Gap is a science denier.
BigRobSA
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And a lot of these people probably have degrees.

Schools pump out barely functioning tards now.
"The Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution was never designed to restrain the people. It was designed to restrain the government."
Trajan88
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This SNL skit (Woke jeans) is reality... amazing.

pfo
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Looking around at America these days, XXXXL will be the first to run out, then XXXL and so on.

The only way an extra small sells is if it's for newborns.
YouBet
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Trajan88 said:

Is not there a whole science/discipline devoted to order mgmt. operations/logistics/supply chain?

Looks that The Gap is a science denier.
Core classwork in any MBA program. Or it used to be.

Probably killed it because we hate reality now.
StillNotAnAggie
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The women's sizes are all the same price. Men's XXL cost more than the rest of the clothes. I feel attacked!!
techno-ag
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StillNotAnAggie said:

The women's sizes are all the same price. Men's XXL cost more than the rest of the clothes. I feel attacked!!

Trump will fix it.
Emotional Support Cobra
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Not to mention overstock makeup that retailers ordered in every brown shade last year. I saw a huge clearance bin at HEB.

Hello, San Antonio has white people and brown people but cannot sell tons of 15 shades of ebony, sorry about your inclusion.

Last but not least, Banana Republic had cami tank tops in "every skin tone" guess what was on the clearance table 4 months later, piles of skin tone tanks that were too dark for the whiteys and latinas.
stetson
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Yes, stocking inventory based on demand is racist, sexist, and body shaming. This is soft central planning.
FJB
bonfarr
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Whatever happened to the obese women being content with mumus? Now I have to suffer seeing 225 pound women wearing hot shorts and halter tops. Just because it looks great on the mannequin doesn't mean it will look great on everyone.
Dan Scott
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Krazykat
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XXXXL??? WTH? A heart attack waiting to happen.
black_ice
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You ever been with a yuge fat whale before? Maybe after a few chardonnay's?
JSKolache
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rilloaggie said:

Jason_InfinityRoofer said:

They could have just gone down to my local tractor supply and checked out the clearance rack to understand needs. Right now, there is an entire rack of XS and 4XL shirts that they can't give away.


Identical on the sales rack at every Academy I've ever been to. Tons of small and xxl+ stuff marked down to next to nothing while the medium/large is usually sold out.
And wtf is with academy and short/fat pants. If your waist is a 40+, then only 32" inseam or less for you big fella. Texas is king of big tall dudes, but academy hasnt clued in apparently. Anyway, i digress...

I outgrew old navy shtt 15 yrs ago.
Viper16jr
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This is hilarious.

Old Navy trying to out-stupid the Brandon Administration.

This is a whole new level of stupidity.

I don't have enough popcorn for this s**t
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