Cruz goes easy on the NYT editorial board

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BusterAg
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He's not perfect, but he has his moments.
Tom Doniphon
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Ted Cruz
Marcus Brutus
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LMAO
Showertime at the Bidens
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I see Ted Cruz in viral videos talking tough, but I never hear stories of Ted Cruz doing work behind the scenes.

richardag
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From the top rope.
Kudos Cruz.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Waffledynamics
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He said what we are all thinking.
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Bidens leg hairs said:


I see Ted Cruz in viral videos talking tough, but I never hear stories of Ted Cruz doing work behind the scenes.




He actually did a lot of work behind the scenes along with a Democrat whose name escapes me trying to stop nordstream 2. Obviously it didn't work out but he was doing his best.
Kenneth_2003
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That was from his podcast, caked The Verdict. It's a good weekly follow.
Ag with kids
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Bidens leg hairs said:


I see Ted Cruz in viral videos talking tough, but I never hear stories of Ted Cruz doing work behind the scenes.


Ted Cruz got the SCOTUS to change campaign finance law


Quote:

Supreme Court Rules for Ted Cruz in Campaign Finance Case

The Texas senator challenged a federal law that put a $250,000 cap on repayments of candidates' loans to their campaigns using postelection contributions.
aggie93
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Bidens leg hairs said:


I see Ted Cruz in viral videos talking tough, but I never hear stories of Ted Cruz doing work behind the scenes.


You aren't paying attention then. Cruz hits way above his weight class as a Junior Senator from Texas with modest seniority in the minority party. He is one of the most influential people Trump looked to for guidance on who to nominate to Judgeships and sitting on the Judiciary Committee he was extremely effective pushing them through. He stopped Nordstream and had talked about it for years while others ignored it and then Biden of course Exec Ordered it back and caused the Ukraine War. He sits on the Rules Committee and has been extremely effective at "behind the scenes" work by utilizing Senate procedure that would make most people's eyes bleed in order to get bills passed and to stop other legislation.

Cruz also sits on Judiciary, Foreign Relations, and Rules which are 3 of the Big 5 Committees (Finance and Appropriations being the other 2) and he is very senior on Commerce and Science where he gets a LOT done for NASA and now Space X.

There is plenty to criticize Cruz on if you want but not being "behind the scenes" is certainly not on that list. He gets more done than a lot of Ranking Members of Committees and some in GOP Leadership.
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cecil77
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He seems to have matured beyond it, but his major "unlikable" trait was that of not only being the smartest person in the room (he, in fact, usually is) but that he wanted everyone to tacitly acknowledge that.
Showertime at the Bidens
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Disagree to some extent. Yes Cruz is active in delivering for his donors and chamber of commerce. Where is Cruz on the DOJ corruption? Or election fraud? Or Military purges?

If the Republicans get back in the majority does anyone really expect him to lead on any of these issues?
aggie93
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Bidens leg hairs said:

Disagree to some extent. Yes Cruz is active in delivering for his donors and chamber of commerce. Where is Cruz on the DOJ corruption? Or election fraud? Or Military purges?

If the Republicans get back in the majority does anyone really expect him to lead on any of these issues?

Cruz rails against DOJ corruption regularly on the Judiciary Committee but it is controlled by Democrats, not a hell of a lot he can get done there. He was one of the lead guys trying to push for De-Certification on the Senate Floor on Jan 6. He doesn't sit on the Armed Services Committee or have any influence on Military issues other than to comment and vote.

He is still just one Senator, you seem to think he has Executive Powers. Do you understand how our government works?
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Jason C.
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aggie93 said:

Bidens leg hairs said:


I see Ted Cruz in viral videos talking tough, but I never hear stories of Ted Cruz doing work behind the scenes.


You aren't paying attention then. Cruz hits way above his weight class as a Junior Senator from Texas with modest seniority in the minority party. He is one of the most influential people Trump looked to for guidance on who to nominate to Judgeships and sitting on the Judiciary Committee he was extremely effective pushing them through. He stopped Nordstream and had talked about it for years while others ignored it and then Biden of course Exec Ordered it back and caused the Ukraine War. He sits on the Rules Committee and has been extremely effective at "behind the scenes" work by utilizing Senate procedure that would make most people's eyes bleed in order to get bills passed and to stop other legislation.

Cruz also sits on Judiciary, Foreign Relations, and Rules which are 3 of the Big 5 Committees (Finance and Appropriations being the other 2) and he is very senior on Commerce and Science where he gets a LOT done for NASA and now Space X.

There is plenty to criticize Cruz on if you want but not being "behind the scenes" is certainly not on that list. He gets more done than a lot of Ranking Members of Committees and some in GOP Leadership.


All things you'd look for in a post-McConnell Sen Maj Leader. He's not perfect (as the commenter after yours notes) but being a pro at Senate procedure and judges is basically your job.
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Bidens leg hairs said:


I see Ted Cruz in viral videos talking tough, but I never hear stories of Ted Cruz doing work behind the scenes.


Dude is one of 100 Senators, you know that right?
samurai_science
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Bidens leg hairs said:

Disagree to some extent. Yes Cruz is active in delivering for his donors and chamber of commerce. Where is Cruz on the DOJ corruption? Or election fraud? Or Military purges?

If the Republicans get back in the majority does anyone really expect him to lead on any of these issues?

Again, he is one of 100 senators...
AggieGunslinger
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cecil77 said:

He seems to have matured beyond it, but his major "unlikable" trait was that of not only being the smartest person in the room (he, in fact, usually is) but that he wanted everyone to tacitly acknowledge that.



I never felt like he expected people to acknowledge his intelligence, but he wasn't going to dumb down ideas or speech for people that weren't bright enough to keep up in the first place.
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Agree with you on most of that about Cruz, but in January 6 elector count he didn't do anything but try to get enough face time to make it look like he was fighting.

If Cruz had been successful in getting electors thrown out in every state he objected to, Biden would still have won.by a wide margin.

MouthBQ98
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I think I have actually made that same comment word for word before, except the Manhattan part.
Central Committee
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Just saying what most of us on this board have said for years.

Props to his blunt assessment.
You can't fix stupid.
MaxPower
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What's the NYT theory? People only have interracial marriages for the joy of aborting babies?
AGHouston11
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Meanwhile Cornyn works behind the scenes to clip and cut Cruz behind the scenes as the wingman for McConnell.
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Bidens leg hairs said:


I see Ted Cruz in viral videos talking tough, but I never hear stories of Ted Cruz doing work behind the scenes.


1&1=not
BusterAg
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Ag with kids said:

Bidens leg hairs said:


I see Ted Cruz in viral videos talking tough, but I never hear stories of Ted Cruz doing work behind the scenes.


Ted Cruz got the SCOTUS to change campaign finance law


Quote:

Supreme Court Rules for Ted Cruz in Campaign Finance Case

The Texas senator challenged a federal law that put a $250,000 cap on repayments of candidates' loans to their campaigns using postelection contributions.

Consider, for a moment, that most politicians that lend their campaign money are unproven Washington outsiders with a big personal war chest but not enough political power to raise money from lobbyists to pay for their campaign.

They can't raise money because they are unproven, so they use their own cash to finance their campaign. But, once they win, the $ for influence donations start flowing in.

Before the SCOTUS ruling, those people that funded their own campaign couldn't repay more than $250k of those loans, which absolutely had an impact on how much individuals were willing to lend their campaign from their personal bank account.

So, I'm thinking this isn't a bad deal for MAGA, but, just my opinion.
BusterAg
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Bidens leg hairs said:


I see Ted Cruz in viral videos talking tough, but I never hear stories of Ted Cruz doing work behind the scenes.


If he tooted his own horn about working behind the scenes, it wouldn't be "working behind the scenes", now, would it.

Pretty sure the NYT isn't doing any investigative reporting on the good work that Cruz is doing "behind the scenes" in DC.

Your comment is pretty full of air, here.
BusterAg
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MaxPower said:

What's the NYT theory? People only have interracial marriages for the joy of aborting babies?
I'm not sure, not going to pay them money to read their propaganda.

But, my assumption is that the NYT is saying the RvW right to privacy (the right to privacy between an individual and her doctor was the basis the court used to justify RvW decision) was used in the past by the courts to rule against states that had laws against interracial couples.

If RvW goes down, those protections, based on that jurisprudence, would also logically fall.

But, it's such a stupid argument, because laws against interracial couples are:

1) Counter to lots of other laws and court rulings against such a law that have come out since then; and
2) So stupid that no state legislator is ever going to back it, in any state, ever again.

It's actually revolting that people that read the times actually think people in the south are so racist that they would believe one word of that crap.
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He's not perfect, but he has his moments.
He's perfect for his calling... he just needs to stay in his lane.
BMX Bandit
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Your second point is the key here.

Technically, yes, there was no right to marry someone of a different race that the founders believed existed.

But no state is thinking about passing laws that ban interracial marriage. It's a scare tactic put forth by the left
Eso si, Que es
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MaxPower said:

What's the NYT theory? People only have interracial marriages for the joy of aborting babies?
The NYT theory is that people don't really care about RvW being overturned and sent back to the states to decide,so they have to conflate this to "SCOTUS is coming for same sex marriage, and then interracial marriage, and then…"

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zephyr88 said:

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He's not perfect, but he has his moments.
He's perfect for his calling... he just needs to stay in his lane.
And what is that lane?
Aggie Joe 93
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MaxPower said:

What's the NYT theory? People only have interracial marriages for the joy of aborting babies?

Apparently they think that overturning RvW will repeal the 14th Amendment. Also just another lying fear grab by the left. They love a good false accusation, especially when they know there will be no consequences.
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BMX Bandit said:

Agree with you on most of that about Cruz, but in January 6 elector count he didn't do anything but try to get enough face time to make it look like he was fighting.

If Cruz had been successful in getting electors thrown out in every state he objected to, Biden would still have won.by a wide margin.


There was no real path for Trump at the end but Cruz tried at least and he risked political capital to do so.

The greater point to me though is Cruz would be an incredibly effective Majority Leader or Majority Whip or Committee Chair for Judiciary or Rules. He knows all the cracks and is probably the best pure lawyer in the Senate. It's something he emphasized from his earliest days after being elected. Thus saying he isn't a "behind the scenes" guy as the original point was argued is just ridiculous. His most valuable thing he has done while in office has been pushing for the most conservative possible judges with strong law backgrounds to get in the Courts. They let him run with pushing who to recommend and he knocked it out of the park while Trump was President.
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BMX Bandit
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I love Cruz, but he didn't really "try" anything. he objected to one state so he could say he did.

I agree there was no viable path, but lets not pretend Cruz was trying to find one.

Cruz knew legally it was all DOA. He also knew politically he had to look like he was doing something. and it worked for him politically.
Showertime at the Bidens
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BusterAg said:

Bidens leg hairs said:


I see Ted Cruz in viral videos talking tough, but I never hear stories of Ted Cruz doing work behind the scenes.


If he tooted his own horn about working behind the scenes, it wouldn't be "working behind the scenes", now, would it.

Pretty sure the NYT isn't doing any investigative reporting on the good work that Cruz is doing "behind the scenes" in DC.

Your comment is pretty full of air, here.


At a minimum I expect Democrats to be complaining about Cruz actually getting something done other than grandiose speeches. I like Cruz, but come on, these rants at hearings are nothing but show. I would like to see him actually grill someone like a competent lawyer instead of ranting and raving. Rand Paul has been much more effective without all the theater.

Another thing that concerns me about Cruz is the fact that his neighbors sold him out during the ice storm. It says to me that he's weak and doesn't wield much power.

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Bidens leg hairs said:


I see Ted Cruz in viral videos talking tough, but I never hear stories of Ted Cruz doing work behind the scenes.


LOL what a clown comment. Man there is some low hangin fruit on this site. It's embarrassing.
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