baron_von_awesome said:

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ClassicAg18 said:

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I know Twitter is swamped with bots but wow 90% is actually pretty scary. Most of those bots are probably setup by foreign governments too

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Foreign governments is the boogey man, we have a worse problem with our own government.

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I can't blue star this comment enough. It's shocking to me how few people realize this.

cecil77 said:

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TxTarpon said:

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So whether he buys it or not I hope he exposes them!

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So they implode and he rolls out his platform out of the ashes.

If only the CIA and DARPA knew that their tool was so corrupt.....

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Or they implode and he partners with DJT in Truth Social. That would be Kingsman level head explosions.

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I wouldn't want to be the one to tell DJT that he only had a fraction of the number of followers on Twitter. And what does this do to the expectations of numbers on Truth Social if they considered Twitter numbers to hopefully drive to TS? If it turns out the numbers aren't there for Twitter, why would TS expect anything close?

Trump? Imagine telling the squids not as many people believe their craziness. They thing people support their extreme view and most are bots are people laughing at them.

My guess most celebrities know how to pump up their numbers with fake accounts

Living in The Matrix, does it really matter?

This is all very interesting ..many of us would have never known or understood this without Elon exposing it .. hell I have no idea how Twitter works but it seems now like its a lot of falsely driven topics… crazy stuff, I know better now that's for sure … makes sense, push topics with false real backing .. we have all been duped

You're right. Totally organic.

I just gave you examples of the term being used for over a century

I'm sure most of those people were searching for a word to use to describe what happened and every single one of them read that newspaper article from 1911.

The point was the messaging was coordinated beforehand....

BadMoonRisin said:

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I'm sure most of those people were searching for a word to use to describe what happened and every single one of them read that newspaper article from 1911

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Sweet job bro. Interesting you didnt find any other mentions of Easter Worshippers prior to 2019...which was kind of the point of my post anyway. It entered the vernacular almost instantly.

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Go read my op again and quit being a contrarian. You aren't even good at it.

BadMoonRisin said:

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Go read my op again and quit being a contrarian. You aren't even good at it.

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It's ok, Moon. I gave you examples of both "Easter Worshippers" and "Mecca Pilgrims" used by the press going back to 1884 and 1983, respectively, yet you still want to claim that's not what you were actually talking about.

Anyways, have a good one.

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So Brinn and Zuck are billionaires on a variation of a Ponzi Scheme?

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i thought it was just straight up fraud

online advertising/engagement is pure black box fraud

"It was weird every single democrat on twitter and the mainstream media called them Easter worshipers. That's weird huh?"

"AKSHUAAAAAAAAAALY at least 10 articles going back to 1883 use the word easter worshipers. Checkmate!"

My point was that the messaging was coordinated, to avoid calling it a violent attack against Christians. This was a few months after the NZ attack by an actual white supremacists on the mosque, so they didnt want to change the narrative that Christians suffered violence at the hands of Muslim extremists (which is far more common btw). Just like now they cant tell you what a woman is, to protect the narrative. My point still stands.

I'll take the L if you can find a single high-level democrat that called them Christians. Good luck.

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I just gave you examples of the term being used for over a century

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Extremely infrequent usage spread out over a century is not the same as suddenly springing to life and repeated ad nauseum across what are supposed to be unrelated sources in a very brief slice of time.

My thoughts exactly regarding Instagram and TikTok. You really think Kendall Jenner is getting 10's of millions of likes for pics around the house?

In fact, if I'm building a social media platform in 2022 it makes sense to give posts hundreds, if not thousands, of free likes. Ensures that creators get that dopamine rush and keep posting.

When Musk exposes all this I would love to hear the conversations in some of the big board rooms. Companies are realizing they changed their policies and lost revenue due to social media backlash from fake accounts.

icrymyselftosleep said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Go read my op again and quit being a contrarian. You aren't even good at it.

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It's ok, Moon. I gave you examples of both "Easter Worshippers" and "Mecca Pilgrims" used by the press going back to 1884 and 1983, respectively, yet you still want to claim that's not what you were actually talking about.

Anyways, have a good one.

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JournoList - Wikipedia

They already did Jouno List 1.0 and 2.0. There is zero chance that they just gave up on cross coordinating their stories to match the DNC narrative. Examples like this with the same exact unusual language used over and over within a 24 hour period by various media outlets (that just happen to line up with DNC talking points) prove that Journo List 3.0 exists and is functioning in the same role as 1.0 and 2.0.

Both Apple and Google have drastically changed their privacy capabilities to where marketers can barely track even their first party metrics. This is a fairly known situation and with AI/bots it's only gotten significantly worse. Kudos to Musk for calling this reality out, something that only idiots don't see and big tech fans don't want to admit.

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icrymyselftosleep said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Go read my op again and quit being a contrarian. You aren't even good at it.

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It's ok, Moon. I gave you examples of both "Easter Worshippers" and "Mecca Pilgrims" used by the press going back to 1884 and 1983, respectively, yet you still want to claim that's not what you were actually talking about.

Anyways, have a good one.

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JournoList - Wikipedia

They already did Jouno List 1.0 and 2.0. There is zero chance that they just gave up on cross coordinating their stories to match the DNC narrative. Examples like this with the same exact unusual language used over and over within a 24 hour period by various media outlets (that just happen to line up with DNC talking points) prove that Journo List 3.0 exists and is functioning in the same role as 1.0 and 2.0.

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Interesting. Wasn't aware of this but it makes sense. They are obviously coordinating the news.

Twitter is funded by corporate marketing. They've been feeding these Twitter leftists since its inception.

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I've pissed off a few marketing and sales folks by pushing the question of how they could tie a specific marketing investment or initiative to generated business.

To me this should be a common activity to understand if the efforts were worthwhile, and could be easily detailed in a CRM. They didn't see it that way.

So much of the social media landscape is about broadcasting 'feels' on the latest current event, with the intent of staying relevant to the populace. I doubt many organizations can explicitly tie that back to realized revenue.

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They can't.

There is a general evolutionary path of Marketing that moves from Traditional to Lead Gen to Demand Gen to Revenue Marketing. That final state is the holy grail of marketing and almost no one is there on the digital front even using sophisticated CRM's.

This was my ah ha learning after living in this world for a while. I just assumed this stuff was figured out but it's not. The front end of that cycle are basically cost metrics where all you are doing is trying to lower your cost per metric by upping your views, clicks, click throughs, and leads. It's one big churn of a shell game in my experience.

One of the first things I discovered was that Twitter was utterly worthless for lead generation, so I killed all spend on that platform. We were literally getting 0 leads from campaigns we would run. I learned a lot though. I learned Marketing is one big goat rope.

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Amen!

I quit buying any advertising on Twitter in 2015. I used to think the reason Twiiter was so ineffective (0 leads) was because in non-metro markets everyone adapted to Facebook instead of Twitter. Now I am doubting even Facebook engagement is real. I used to hold the theory that FB stats were certainly hyped a little. Now I'm thinking they are hyped a lot!

Back to Twitter. Dumb leadership at newspapers push their young journalists to tweet everything when gathering their stories. I never understood that. Why release the information on a competitor platform like Twitter before you publish the piece on your website? Now I know why it only hurt legacy media a little bit. It really doesn't matter what you teeet. No one is reading Twitter. Thanks Elon!!

pic.twitter.com/fdy0nedGMs

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 19, 2022

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Maybe this was his plan all along. Make an offer, which requires that they open the books and records. Expose them for being frauds, kill the company.

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I'd be just fine with that.

Seeing a huge amount of AI generated content making its way to the top of search results.

Looks like a website is auto-generated to respond to whatever you are searching and get you to click.

Seeing this on google images where almost all the images are not images but redirects.

Search engines getting to the point where they are unusable. Got to sift through a page or two to get anything relevant.

Yeah, we've seen this before but its gotten real bad over the past few months.

At least we are totally positive that all of the fake "dead internet" social media bots have nothing to do with election interference via collaboration of consensus to attack those who don't follow the narrative.

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Seeing a huge amount of AI generated content making its way to the top of search results.

Looks like a website is auto-generated to respond to whatever you are searching and get you to click.

Seeing this on google images where almost all the images are not images but redirects.

Search engines getting to the point where they are unusable. Got to sift through a page or two to get anything relevant.

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yep. quality of search has dropped significantly between paid ad results and the AI/bot bull****tery.

even google would provide you some decent results amid all the crap as recently as 6 months ago.

Now you have to search page 2 of results.

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I just about have to limit searches to specific sites where I know there are forums that google would index. Those may have idiots but it's still better than SEO'd trash.

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baron_von_awesome said:

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ClassicAg18 said:

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I know Twitter is swamped with bots but wow 90% is actually pretty scary. Most of those bots are probably setup by foreign governments too

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Foreign governments is the boogey man, we have a worse problem with our own government.

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I can't blue star this comment enough. It's shocking to me how few people realize this.

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What if our own government is really a foreign government?

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CSTXAg92 said:

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baron_von_awesome said:

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ClassicAg18 said:

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I know Twitter is swamped with bots but wow 90% is actually pretty scary. Most of those bots are probably setup by foreign governments too

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Foreign governments is the boogey man, we have a worse problem with our own government.

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I can't blue star this comment enough. It's shocking to me how few people realize this.

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What if our own government is really a foreign government?

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TexAgs91 said:

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Pooh-ah95_ESL said:

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CSTXAg92 said:

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baron_von_awesome said:

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ClassicAg18 said:

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I know Twitter is swamped with bots but wow 90% is actually pretty scary. Most of those bots are probably setup by foreign governments too

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Foreign governments is the boogey man, we have a worse problem with our own government.

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I can't blue star this comment enough. It's shocking to me how few people realize this.

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What if our own government is really a foreign government?

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We took over foreign governments. Then used those foreign governments to take over our legitimate government.

Every post of yours is like watching one bratty kid in a room full of adults constantly interrupting the discussion to beg for attention and being completely oblivious to everyone's irritation.

Good grief, man…are you on the spectrum or something?

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Seeing a huge amount of AI generated content making its way to the top of search results.

Looks like a website is auto-generated to respond to whatever you are searching and get you to click.

Seeing this on google images where almost all the images are not images but redirects.

Search engines getting to the point where they are unusable. Got to sift through a page or two to get anything relevant.

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yep. quality of search has dropped significantly between paid ad results and the AI/bot bull****tery.

even google would provide you some decent results amid all the crap as recently as 6 months ago.

Now you have to search page 2 of results.

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I just about have to limit searches to specific sites where I know there are forums that google would index. Those may have idiots but it's still better than SEO'd trash.

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Google seems like its getting unusable at this point. It's not indexing ****. Seems like you get two pages of search results of sponsored content or directing to monetized content. GIS is this way. Bulk of images nowadays are curated and redirect to a video or some sponsored content. It ain't like it use to be.

I heard where most of the other search engines are tied to google's indexing. They may run a little differently but whatever google is doing has is at the root of it.

We way farther along on this than we were last year. We might already be at the point where nothing exists unless big tech says it exists.