It's not like it's unprecedented and the jihadis didn't do this or that he's stating that this is the case, so it's a valid question. Wrong to excoriate him for asking the question.

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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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Lol

Yea 2016 through 2020 really sucked as compared to the last year and 3 months….

Trump was def the bigger the threat huh??

Lmfao… & I'm not a real conservative


Thanks for contributing to create the current ****show

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If you think the issues of the last year (I'm guessing you mean inflation?) are due solely to Biden, you need to better understand economics. That's been coming since Obama/the Fed easy money, (and before) , and through Trump's policy and both sides reaction to Covid (which was stupid, the lock down was stupid, which lead to stimi's and the most stupid of all the PPP loans).

Even if you think Trump created a hot economy all on his own, that in and of itself creates inflation eventually without rate increases.

I hope the R's take the Senate in the next election then nothing will get passed between 22-24 and that's fine with me.

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How old are you and what gives you the right to spew insanity on this board?

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Apparently you can't do math. My username clearly states my class.

Can you read a chart?

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I make a living reading charts.

Before I eviscerate you're menial economic knowledge and dumb statement, I'd like to give you an opportunity to expound on what you think you meant by your statement and why you are quoting a chart of our gross domestic product as "proof" for a roaring economy creating inflation in and of itself.

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That is not a chart of Gross Domestic Product, That is a chart of Gross Domestic Product Growth. Before each recession over the last 40 years (except for COVID lockdown), each recession has preceded by high GDP growth.

Its pretty much an economic fact that GDP growth (with out increased output) leads to inflation. High GDP growth = High Inflation. High inflation will eventually lead to a recession. Usually we are okay with 2%, and that leads to around 2% inflation depending on Fed policy.

Because of Trumps/Biden/The Fed policy plus COVID policy (lockdown and stimulus), over the past two years Real GDP growth is between 5% and 6% (nominal will be higher and its not on the chart because that one stops at 2010), unemployment is almost realistically at 0% (everyone who wants to get a job pretty much can) so production cannot expand and demand is outstripping supply by a lot (7% inflation) not to mention security valuation inflation. I wager a recession is coming.

Trumps pre covid Real GDP Growth rate was between 2.5% and 3% for 2018/2019 (once again higher for nominal). If this rate would have stayed even at those rates (he was claiming it would go higher), the Fed would have had to raise interest rates to keep inflation at 2% which would have slowed GDP growth, possibly leading to a recession.

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It's not like it's unprecedented and the jihadis didn't do this or that he's stating that this is the case, so it's a valid question. Wrong to excoriate him for asking the question.

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You're equating jihadis with a sovereign government who has a significantly cleaner track record with relation to verified war crimes over the past 30 years than Russia under Putin? Chechnya? Syria? Not to mention what Russia does to "dissidents".

Walsh has admitted he made it up.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3281961/replies/61812562#61812562

Just got through a good laugh reading this thread. Holy ****. Of course Tucker didn't say this, Joe Walsh is poking fun at Tucker on Monday AM in advance of his nightly show predicting how he'd say something like this.

Tucker "Just Asking Questions" Carlson has been a running jab for a few years. I'm surprised some had no idea of this, which is apparent.

I'd say most of F16 is intelligent and well educated, and they can understand much of Tucker's nuance and sarcasm at least (a few exceptions). He weaves it into his very thoughtful commentary. But I'd wager we represent a minority of Tucker's viewers (and he knows this) here at TexAgs. Do we really think that his average viewer, that doesn't read a politics board, can thoughtfully discern when he's "just asking questions"? Or even better stated, "Would a reasonable viewer be coming here and thinking this is where I'm going to be hearing the news of the day?" Of course not! But they eat it up and it's fun and entertaining. It's news entertainment and he's great at it.

Joe Walsh has since tweeted again his lack of surprise that many who saw his tweet believed Tucker has already said it:

I tweeted this out this morning. I was predicting what @TuckerCarlson would say “tonight.” Here’s what’s funny: So many people read this tweet & believed Tucker had already said it. Which is understandable becuz it’s EXACTLY the kind of thing Putin-lover Tucker would & has said. https://t.co/dxDLDjOPK1

— Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom) April 5, 2022

Do we know whether Tucker is actually part of the elite in this country and funds Antifa?

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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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Lol

Yea 2016 through 2020 really sucked as compared to the last year and 3 months….

Trump was def the bigger the threat huh??

Lmfao… & I'm not a real conservative


Thanks for contributing to create the current ****show

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If you think the issues of the last year (I'm guessing you mean inflation?) are due solely to Biden, you need to better understand economics. That's been coming since Obama/the Fed easy money, (and before) , and through Trump's policy and both sides reaction to Covid (which was stupid, the lock down was stupid, which lead to stimi's and the most stupid of all the PPP loans).

Even if you think Trump created a hot economy all on his own, that in and of itself creates inflation eventually without rate increases.

I hope the R's take the Senate in the next election then nothing will get passed between 22-24 and that's fine with me.

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How old are you and what gives you the right to spew insanity on this board?

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The lesson here is that we should never try to good things because eventually bad things will happen.

So, just do nothing.

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No, the lesson is that inflation is not one year in the making. People who say this wouldn't have happened under Trump are incorrect.

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Why does the fed raise rates under republicans and trump and then create practically free money and drop rates like crazy under Dem presidents?

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Between 1980 and 1992 under Republicans (Reagan, Bush), The Fed lowered rates from about 17.5% to about 5%. (Net -12.5%)

Between 1992 and 2000 under Democrats (Clinton), The Fed raised rates from about 3% to about 5.5%. (Net +2.5%)

Between 2000 and 2008 under Republicans (Bush), The Fed first continued to raise rates from about 5.5% to about 6.5% until 911, then lowered them to about 1%, then raised them back to about 5.5% by 2008, so net 0%.

Between 2008 and 2016 under Democrats (Obama), the Fed first continue to raise rates but eventually dropped them to almost 0 due to the financial crises, where they stayed until about 2016, So a drop of 5.5%.

During Trumps term, the Fed did raise rates to about 2.5% until the lockdown and its been almost 0% ever since, so also a net of 0% under Trump. Though they would have kept raising them without Covid and that would have eventually lead to a recession and that is my point.

inb4 all replies are edited.

Edit: Walsh really took some lefties and righties in his twitter replies for a ride it seems, after reading. Gold Jerry.

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Walsh has admitted he made it up.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3281961/replies/61812562#61812562

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Why did Staff nuke that thread?

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It should be a fairly simple question to answer.

Where's the video?

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You mean a tweet from a partisan hack itsn't enough.....lol;

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The tweet says 7 am.....so I guess, it's bs?

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You tried. Next time use all caps maybe. Here's a third star.

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.@TuckerCarlson tonight: “What if these bodies of tortured, dead civilians were staged? What if they’re fake? What if the Ukrainian military killed them & then blamed Russia? I’m not saying any of this is true, I’m just asking the questions. Why can’t we ask these questions?”

— Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom) April 4, 2022

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It's a valid question. Both sides are spewing tons of fake news.

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I have had numerous posts deleted here on TexAgs that ask these kinds of questions, despite repeatedly stating I am against Russia's invasion.

Fact is, Zelensky's government is corrupt, and the banning of non-state sanctioned media and the banning of minority party participation is totalitarian behavior.

My friends were able to leave Kiev a few days ago, and drove 6 hours to Odessa. They left their apartment about a mile north of the major soccer stadium because the Ukranian military installed ground to air missiles right outside their front door on Thursday! They also setup a military command and control center in the adjacent structure. My friends had seen enough and quietly left.

Why are the Ukrainian military deliberately setting up this stuff in areas where hundreds of civilians live? Why are the Ukrainian government and military re-posting and celebrating the Azov Battalion (open Nazis)? There are many many questions.......... and we should be free to ask them...... and ask them without being accused of being a Putin propagandist or a traitor to this country.......

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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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aggrad02 said:

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My Name Is Judge said:

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Lol

Yea 2016 through 2020 really sucked as compared to the last year and 3 months….

Trump was def the bigger the threat huh??

Lmfao… & I'm not a real conservative


Thanks for contributing to create the current ****show

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If you think the issues of the last year (I'm guessing you mean inflation?) are due solely to Biden, you need to better understand economics. That's been coming since Obama/the Fed easy money, (and before) , and through Trump's policy and both sides reaction to Covid (which was stupid, the lock down was stupid, which lead to stimi's and the most stupid of all the PPP loans).

Even if you think Trump created a hot economy all on his own, that in and of itself creates inflation eventually without rate increases.

I hope the R's take the Senate in the next election then nothing will get passed between 22-24 and that's fine with me.

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How old are you and what gives you the right to spew insanity on this board?

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Apparently you can't do math. My username clearly states my class.

Can you read a chart?

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I make a living reading charts.

Before I eviscerate you're menial economic knowledge and dumb statement, I'd like to give you an opportunity to expound on what you think you meant by your statement and why you are quoting a chart of our gross domestic product as "proof" for a roaring economy creating inflation in and of itself.

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That is not a chart of Gross Domestic Product, That is a chart of Gross Domestic Product Growth. Before each recession over the last 40 years (except for COVID lockdown), each recession has preceded by high GDP growth.

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Yeah. Got it, cute, but that's a gross oversimplification of what you trying to spike the football with gdp growth being a leading indicator to recessions. That's like saying because there is always a forest present before a fire that a forest indicates where a forest fire will be.

Rate raising to control inflation and world disasters/malfeasance drastically popping a bubble or pulling a rug out on the world/US economy is a better indicator to recessions. (Iranian revolt, subprime mortgages, dotcom all examples.). There are plenty of example of the graph you posted where gdp growth does not end up with recessions.

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Its pretty much an economic fact that GDP growth (with out increased output) leads to inflation. High GDP growth = High Inflation. High inflation will eventually lead to a recession. Usually we are okay with 2%, and that leads to around 2% inflation depending on Fed policy.

Because of Trumps/Biden/The Fed policy plus COVID policy (lockdown and stimulus), over the past two years Real GDP growth is between 5% and 6% (nominal will be higher and its not on the chart because that one stops at 2010), unemployment is almost realistically at 0% (everyone who wants to get a job pretty much can) so production cannot expand and demand is outstripping supply by a lot (7% inflation) not to mention security valuation inflation. I wager a recession is coming.

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Inflation will always be too many dollars chasing too few goods. This happens more often due to ****ty policy. Trump was hand tied with dem leadership and literal state shut downs in california and NY along with our supply issues. Biden had figuratively thrown gas on the fire. We were recoverable had trump not had the election stolen, but here we are.

Fiscal spending and government is literally the biggest piece of the pie when it comes to calculating GDP, so your example of GDP point blank being the end all be all of inflation on its face without accounting for the spending when calculated and where the spending is coming from is either willingly disingenuous on your part, or you werent aware. I am thinking its the former now and you just have TDS and want to throw it all in together and blame everyone instead of your craptastic decision to vote for Biden, but I digress.

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Trumps pre covid Real GDP Growth rate was between 2.5% and 3% for 2018/2019 (once again higher for nominal). If this rate would have stayed even at those rates (he was claiming it would go higher), the Fed would have had to raise interest rates to keep inflation at 2% which would have slowed GDP growth, possibly leading to a recession.

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Cool. Why hasnt there been a significant hike under biden at this point?

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baron_von_awesome said:

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Valtrex11 said:

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MiniShrike said:

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It should be a fairly simple question to answer.

Where's the video?

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You mean a tweet from a partisan hack itsn't enough.....lol;

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The tweet says 7 am.....so I guess, it's bs?

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You tried. Next time use all caps maybe. Here's a third star.

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It is disinformation and complete horse ***** Sorry Tucker got the better of all his detractors again.

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Fact is, Zelensky's government is corrupt, and the banning of non-state sanctioned media and the banning of minority party participation is totalitarian behavior.

My friends were able to leave Kiev a few days ago, and drove 6 hours to Odessa. They left their apartment about a mile north of the major soccer stadium because the Ukranian military installed ground to air missiles right outside their front door on Thursday! They also setup a military command and control center in the adjacent structure. My friends had seen enough and quietly left.

Why are the Ukrainian military deliberately setting up this stuff in areas where hundreds of civilians live? Why are the Ukrainian government and military re-posting and celebrating the Azov Battalion (open Nazis)? There are many many questions.......... and we should be free to ask them...... and ask them without being accused of being a Putin propagandist or a traitor to this country.......

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The missiles you described are part of an air defense system. It shoots down incoming projectiles and aircraft being utilized by Russia to attack Kyiv. Air defense can't effectively provide protection for an urban area if said system isn't installed within said area. These systems are why central Kyiv has largely withstood Russian air attacks and remained intact.

If the minority party in question is favorable toward the country who is invading you and actively attempting to undermine government, then it's not totalitarian to shut them down. Elected members of the pro-Russian minority party were caught trying to flee the country with cash. Lots of cash. Did you know that? If you don't mind me asking, what party do your friends belong to? What candidate did they vote for in the first round of the 2019 election? The runoff?

The USA purged British loyalists during the Revolution. Was that totalitarian? Do you disagree with that decision? Should the USA have permitted active Soviet Communist sympathizers to hold office during the Cold War, or was that totalitarian?

You should research the actions taken by the US and Britain during WW2 as well as what they're permitted to do during time of war to ensure victory. It's not warm and fuzzy. Survival of the country becomes paramount to idealistic ideological feels which tend to hamper supreme effectiveness during times of war. You should also research air defense systems.

How old are your friends, btw? Are they native to Kyiv? Hope they're safe and well in Odessa and able to remain so.

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YouBet said:

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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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Lol

Yea 2016 through 2020 really sucked as compared to the last year and 3 months….

Trump was def the bigger the threat huh??

Lmfao… & I'm not a real conservative


Thanks for contributing to create the current ****show

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If you think the issues of the last year (I'm guessing you mean inflation?) are due solely to Biden, you need to better understand economics. That's been coming since Obama/the Fed easy money, (and before) , and through Trump's policy and both sides reaction to Covid (which was stupid, the lock down was stupid, which lead to stimi's and the most stupid of all the PPP loans).

Even if you think Trump created a hot economy all on his own, that in and of itself creates inflation eventually without rate increases.

I hope the R's take the Senate in the next election then nothing will get passed between 22-24 and that's fine with me.

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How old are you and what gives you the right to spew insanity on this board?

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The lesson here is that we should never try to good things because eventually bad things will happen.

So, just do nothing.

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No, the lesson is that inflation is not one year in the making. People who say this wouldn't have happened under Trump are incorrect.

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Why does the fed raise rates under republicans and trump and then create practically free money and drop rates like crazy under Dem presidents?

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Between 1980 and 1992 under Republicans (Reagan, Bush), The Fed lowered rates from about 17.5% to about 5%. (Net -12.5%)

Between 1992 and 2000 under Democrats (Clinton), The Fed raised rates from about 3% to about 5.5%. (Net +2.5%)

Between 2000 and 2008 under Republicans (Bush), The Fed first continued to raise rates from about 5.5% to about 6.5% until 911, then lowered them to about 1%, then raised them back to about 5.5% by 2008, so net 0%.

Between 2008 and 2016 under Democrats (Obama), the Fed first continue to raise rates but eventually dropped them to almost 0 due to the financial crises, where they stayed until about 2016, So a drop of 5.5%.

During Trumps term, the Fed did raise rates to about 2.5% until the lockdown and its been almost 0% ever since, so also a net of 0% under Trump. Though they would have kept raising them without Covid and that would have eventually lead to a recession and that is my point.

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Again this is just disingenuous.

Net rates over a term dont tell the story.



Huge boom in the 90s totally matched the rate hike we see during bush and trump years.... right?

And what is that flat line during obama's entire tenure?

Sorry I wont go deeper. Your explanation and NET rate hike over an 8 year presidential period is an all new level of full of *****

Hard to look at this and say that the fed isnt politically motivated by who is in office--no matter who is in running it. DC seems corrupt to the core.

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Yeah. Got it, cute, but that's a gross oversimplification of what you trying to spike the football with gdp growth being a leading indicator to recessions. That's like saying because there is always a forest present before a fire that a forest indicates where a forest fire will be.

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More like saying an overgrown and dry forest is more likely to burn. Trump was drying out the forest.

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Rate raising to control inflation and world disasters/malfeasance drastically popping a bubble or pulling a rug out on the world/US economy is a better indicator to recessions. (Iranian revolt, subprime mortgages, dotcom all examples.). There are plenty of example of the graph you posted where gdp growth does not end up with recessions.

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High GDP growth leads to higher inflation, it's the same thing, and that's my point, unless we just live with inflation which will be a long term mess. I also agree about the disasters/malfeasence indicator, but that's not what we were talking about.

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Inflation will always be too many dollars chasing too few goods. This happens more often due to ****ty policy. Trump was hand tied with dem leadership and literal state shut downs in california and NY along with our supply issues. Biden had figuratively thrown gas on the fire. We were recoverable had trump not had the election stolen, but here we are.

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Disagree with the bolded. That is my point. (BTW I'm not saying Biden is doing any better just blaming him for the totality of inflation is ridiculous and blind.)

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Fiscal spending and government is literally the biggest piece of the pie when it comes to calculating GDP,

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Yes I know this. Trump knew this as well, and that's why spending did not go down either nominally or adjusted for inflation under Trump, he knew he could pump the economy. It's also why he increased the deficit at a higher rate than Obama. (By cutting taxes and refusing to cut spending).

Republicans are supposed to be financially responsible. He should have cut spending with the tax cuts.

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Cool. Why hasnt there been a significant hike under biden at this point?

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There needs to be, and I think there will be. If not we are F'd due to inflation, unless something else on the world theater happens. I think this will also lead to a R president in 2024, unless Trump runs again. (Trump might even be able to beat Biden if the economy gets to the recession before but it isn't a given) And if Trump does win we will go through it again because he won't have sound fiscal policy. It will come home to roost.

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So it's not true, what an azzhat...

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Again this is just disingenuous.

Net rates over a term dont tell the story.



Huge boom in the 90s totally matched the rate hike we see during bush and trump years.... right?

And what is that flat line during obama's entire tenure?

Sorry I wont go deeper. Your explanation and NET rate hike over an 8 year presidential period is an all new level of full of *****

Hard to look at this and say that the fed isnt politically motivated by who is in office--no matter who is in running it.

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You are the one who claimed the rates went up for R's and down for D's. Sorry the data doesn't match your claim, you can twist it how you want.

Seems like the rates went up during high growth and were cut or kept low during low growth regardless of the President.

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I trust Zelensky and the Ukraine Govt. about as much as I trust Putin.

He didn't pull it out of thin air. There are rumors on the ground that the dead civilians were Russian sympathizers who refused to take up arms against Russian troops.

There's so much propaganda on both sides that I dont know what to think of anything being reported

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He didn't pull it out of thin air. There are rumors on the ground that the dead civilians were Russian sympathizers who refused to take up arms against Russian troops.

There's so much propaganda on both sides that I dont know what to think of anything being reported

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There are no "rumors on the ground". You're full of it. There are "rumors coming from Russian aligned sources" who aren't in any of the areas these accounts are coming from. No Ukrainians on the ground or media in Ukrainian controlled areas are saying this. If you don't know what to believe then it's because you're lending credibility to Russian aligned sources and not putting forth the effort to research the claims.

Post the specific instances you're referencing and the reason you believe them to be credible. There are tons of pics of the atrocities. Post links to the pic sources that support your claim.

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I trust Zelensky and the Ukraine Govt. about as much as I trust Putin.

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Then do the legwork to identify credible, evidence based info by which you can generate informed opinion. "I don't trust Zelensky" doesn't invalidate all information pertaining to the events we're faced with.

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This thread is amazing.

This is a false quote, tucker said nothing of the sort (well, sorta, in the beginning, he did these kinds of mental gymnastics when Russia first invaded) but as for the video, he has not made any comment like this.

However, despite this quote trying to satire Tucker as a Russian propagandist, it still worked. People in this thread not only took it seriously but actually agreed with the propaganda.

Every time I think conservatives couldn't get any dumber, this board surprises me.

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There is no question that this poster has changed all of he/she/him/her/they whatever pronoun they go by to the Ukrainian flag on all of their social media accounts. Comical, really.

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He's always just "asking questions". That's his plausibly deniable code phrase for spewing conspiracy BS.

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This, and he spews it because his audience eats it up. Look at the posts above… Conspiracy theory Trumpist support Russia, are upset that people aren't buying the BS, Tucker notices this and feeds it back to them and they lap it up.

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Rather than you, who supports the "ghost of kiev" or the glorious sacrifice of the soldiers at "snake island".

Ukraine is pumping out propaganda. I'm not going to believe **** from either side.

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Where did you see me support those?

Btw The Snake Island thing was mostly true and not propaganda.

This is what Trump and Trumpist do, compare outrageous claims with slightly minor mistakes and claim that nothing can be known.

Russia: Ukraine is committing the atrocities and staging them to get world support (outrageous lie)

Ukraine: The Snake Island Marines were killed defending Ukraine. (Mostly true, some died and some were captured but Ukraine didn't know it at the time and had no way to know.)

Trumpist: I can't believe anything.

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Holy **** Trump broke you

Did you pull the lever for Biden directly or indirectly?

Not that it matters I'm just curious

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I couldn't respond in the other thread where you took responsibility for being a Populist. I do commend you for admitting that.

2020 I voted for Biden directly as Trump was a greater danger to this country.

If the Republicans run a better candidate in 2024 I will vote R again as I traditionally have. (Didn't vote for Trump in 16 either).

Btw: Trump didn't break me, his supporters populism is what is incredulous.

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Jesus Christ. Good job and well thought out move. There's a reason why sane people on this board are so pissed at people like you. Stolen elections have consequences and the rest of us are having to reap what your ilk have sowed.

Thread:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1510911903463264257.html

Reporting is fragmentary at present: so the number of victims is likely much higher than cases we can currently confirm. This is unsurprising on three counts. /7

— Jonathan Leader Maynard (@jleadermaynard) April 4, 2022

Second, the Kremlin is now wrapped in a hardline ultranationalist ideology that sees a West-leaning Ukrainian state as an existential political and ideological threat to Russia (contrary to the longstanding myth that Putin is ‘unideological’). https://t.co/AmEQLmxlcl /9

— Jonathan Leader Maynard (@jleadermaynard) April 4, 2022

Note that the common assertion that abuses against civilians are ‘inevitable’ in war is totally false. States have been found to directly target civilians in roughly 1/5 to 1/3 of all wars. Atrocities are appalling but not inevitable. https://t.co/RL5SZg4zXW /11

— Jonathan Leader Maynard (@jleadermaynard) April 4, 2022

We also have initial reports of the Russian army moving mobile crematoria into Ukraine – but I haven’t seen verified footage of this yet (video from the UK MoD *appears* to have been from pre-war). /13

— Jonathan Leader Maynard (@jleadermaynard) April 4, 2022

But we lack good enough data at this stage, imo, to conclude that genocide is being committed. The leading NGO @genocide_watch has not yet declared a genocide alert in the Ukraine. This obviously could change. https://t.co/HLmhnpnGT7. /15

— Jonathan Leader Maynard (@jleadermaynard) April 4, 2022

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He didn't pull it out of thin air. There are rumors on the ground that the dead civilians were Russian sympathizers who refused to take up arms against Russian troops.

There's so much propaganda on both sides that I dont know what to think of anything being reported

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Sure, Ukraine isn't innocent on many levels.. Heck, most countries aren't unfortunately.

That said, just consider this is straight out of Putin's play book and he has a history of these types (almost to a tee) of horrific actions against civilians. He has done the same thing in several other countries. No brainer....

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He's always just "asking questions". That's his plausibly deniable code phrase for spewing conspiracy BS.

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This, and he spews it because his audience eats it up. Look at the posts above… Conspiracy theory Trumpist support Russia, are upset that people aren't buying the BS, Tucker notices this and feeds it back to them and they lap it up.

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Rather than you, who supports the "ghost of kiev" or the glorious sacrifice of the soldiers at "snake island".

Ukraine is pumping out propaganda. I'm not going to believe **** from either side.

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Where did you see me support those?

Btw The Snake Island thing was mostly true and not propaganda.

This is what Trump and Trumpist do, compare outrageous claims with slightly minor mistakes and claim that nothing can be known.

Russia: Ukraine is committing the atrocities and staging them to get world support (outrageous lie)

Ukraine: The Snake Island Marines were killed defending Ukraine. (Mostly true, some died and some were captured but Ukraine didn't know it at the time and had no way to know.)

Trumpist: I can't believe anything.

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Holy **** Trump broke you

Did you pull the lever for Biden directly or indirectly?

Not that it matters I'm just curious

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I couldn't respond in the other thread where you took responsibility for being a Populist. I do commend you for admitting that.

2020 I voted for Biden directly as Trump was a greater danger to this country.

If the Republicans run a better candidate in 2024 I will vote R again as I traditionally have. (Didn't vote for Trump in 16 either).

Btw: Trump didn't break me, his supporters populism is what is incredulous.

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Jesus Christ. Good job and well thought out move. There's a reason why sane people on this board are so pissed at people like you. Stolen elections have consequences and the rest of us are having to reap what your ilk have sowed.

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So much this. Also, that some small part of the electorate (around 30 percent) still hasn't reconciled that they made an immature, stupid decision in 2020 which was a terrible mistake not just for this country, but the world.

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shiftyandquick said:

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.@TuckerCarlson tonight: “What if these bodies of tortured, dead civilians were staged? What if they’re fake? What if the Ukrainian military killed them & then blamed Russia? I’m not saying any of this is true, I’m just asking the questions. Why can’t we ask these questions?”

— Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom) April 4, 2022

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It's a valid question. Both sides are spewing tons of fake news.

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I have had numerous posts deleted here on TexAgs that ask these kinds of questions, despite repeatedly stating I am against Russia's invasion.

Fact is, Zelensky's government is corrupt, and the banning of non-state sanctioned media and the banning of minority party participation is totalitarian behavior.

My friends were able to leave Kiev a few days ago, and drove 6 hours to Odessa. They left their apartment about a mile north of the major soccer stadium because the Ukranian military installed ground to air missiles right outside their front door on Thursday! They also setup a military command and control center in the adjacent structure. My friends had seen enough and quietly left.

Why are the Ukrainian military deliberately setting up this stuff in areas where hundreds of civilians live? Why are the Ukrainian government and military re-posting and celebrating the Azov Battalion (open Nazis)? There are many many questions.......... and we should be free to ask them...... and ask them without being accused of being a Putin propagandist or a traitor to this country.......

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To quote a poster from the front page, where's the video?

aggrad02 said:

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Squadron7 said:

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If you think the issues of the last year (I'm guessing you mean inflation?) are due solely to Biden, you need to better understand economics. That's been coming since Obama/the Fed easy money, (and before) , and through Trump's policy and both sides reaction to Covid (which was stupid, the lock down was stupid, which lead to stimi's and the most stupid of all the PPP loans).

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How can voting for Biden not be considered doubling down on everything in that paragraph?

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That's my point Trump did it, Biden wanted to do it. That's the double down, it didn't make a difference. Because of Obama, then Trump, then Biden (or Trump again) we would be in this situation (especially since Fed policy isn't controlled by either directly).

A recession is coming because of Trump/Biden easy money, rates will be risen, it doesn't matter who is in office, this is going to happen more than likely, or inflation will continue.

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First person on here that know something on the economy. Our previous monitory policy of adding money to the economy when it was booming (based on the deficits prior to 2020) and a hiccup in production due to COVID shutdown is the reason for the present inflationary situation. Now, we are still, pumping a shload of money (so Biden still has future responsibility) while the Fed is raising interest rates to pull some of that money out of circulation.

Artorias said:

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I trust Zelensky and the Ukraine Govt. about as much as I trust Putin.

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This is an extremely embarrassing admission.

Retired FBI Agent said:

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inb4 all replies are edited.

Edit: Walsh really took some lefties and righties in his twitter replies for a ride it seems, after reading. Gold Jerry.

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Read it again. He admits he was making it up and then in his very next tweet says that Tucker has, in fact, said this before.

Bizarre double down by Walsh:

"Guys, I wasn't saying he actually said that....but he's said it before!"

AGHouston11 said:

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Not seeing this I wondered the same thing when I saw some footage on TV. It looked sort of staged. Huge trenches dug with a few black body bags. They were calling it mass graves.

Not calling it fake but it's hard to believe everything on the news these days. Investigative journalism is dead.

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I'm appalled that you are wondering what you can really believe or not after seeing only maybe 7-8 body bags in a hole in the ground and not dozens or hundreds. And the 24 idiots that bluestar.

I'll be sure to let every dictator know they can dig a pit, fill it 1/10th full so that "mass" can be questioned or is "hard to believe" by someone safely typing behind their computer thousands of miles away.

Didn't the QAnon morons learn from the last time they were exposed?

Conspiracy theorism every bit as much of a mental disease as liberalism.

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rgag12 said:

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He has a point

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But does he? Wow.

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I bet you've had 3 Covid booster shots.