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aggiehawg said:

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A question if I may because i don't fully understand why EV batteries cannot handle sea water without catching fire in large numbers? Happened again after Idalia in Florida. Cars get wet. What is it about salt water that causes such a catalyst? More conductivity in the salt water?

Is there a way to harden that system?

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The best way to harden the system is to avoid driving your Tesla until it's submerged in seawater.

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That's an idiotic response during a hurricane with large storm surges that flooded houses and garages.

I asked an honest question. And you replied with a flippant and incredibly ignorant response.

This is why many posters don't like you much. You are not serious at all.

aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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A question if I may because i don't fully understand why EV batteries cannot handle sea water without catching fire in large numbers? Happened again after Idalia in Florida. Cars get wet. What is it about salt water that causes such a catalyst? More conductivity in the salt water?

Is there a way to harden that system?

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The best way to harden the system is to avoid driving your Tesla until it's submerged in seawater.

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That's an idiotic response during a hurricane with large storm surges that flooded houses and garages.

I asked an honest question. And you replied with a flippant and incredibly ignorant response.

This is why many posters don't like you much. You are not serious at all.

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aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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A question if I may because i don't fully understand why EV batteries cannot handle sea water without catching fire in large numbers? Happened again after Idalia in Florida. Cars get wet. What is it about salt water that causes such a catalyst? More conductivity in the salt water?

Is there a way to harden that system?

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The best way to harden the system is to avoid driving your Tesla until it's submerged in seawater.

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That's an idiotic response during a hurricane with large storm surges that flooded houses and garages.

I asked an honest question. And you replied with a flippant and incredibly ignorant response.

This is why many posters don't like you much. You are not serious at all.

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The salt water gets into the battery and causes shorts which can lead to fires. The quickest way to destroy any car is to submerge it in seawater because it destroys all electrical systems which every car needs to operate. It also causes rapid rust which is another major issue.

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The "experts" have been saying we're about to run out of oil since the 70s. Maybe that's true this time, or maybe they'll find new sources and better ways to get it like they've been doing for the last 50 years.

I just don't think there's any reason to artificially influence the market either way. There won't be a "moment" that oil suddenly dries up and becomes unaffordable. It may just happen naturally over time, and free markets will be there with alternatives people want without the government "knowing best."

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You're right about them calling for running out of oil since the 70s. I assume you meant the 1870s. Yes, it is a finite resource but we won't run out in the lifetime of people on this board.

"In 1874, the state geologist of the nation's leading oil producer, Pennsylvania, warned the U.S. had enough oil to last just four years. In 1914, the federal government said we had a ten-year supply. The government announced in 1940 that reserves would be depleted within a decade and a half."

https://manhattan.institute/article/running-out-of-oil-history-technology-and-abundance#:~:text=In%201874%2C%20the%20state%20geologist,a%20decade%20and%20a%20half.

aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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A question if I may because i don't fully understand why EV batteries cannot handle sea water without catching fire in large numbers? Happened again after Idalia in Florida. Cars get wet. What is it about salt water that causes such a catalyst? More conductivity in the salt water?

Is there a way to harden that system?

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The best way to harden the system is to avoid driving your Tesla until it's submerged in seawater.

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That's an idiotic response during a hurricane with large storm surges that flooded houses and garages.

I asked an honest question. And you replied with a flippant and incredibly ignorant response.

This is why many posters don't like you much. You are not serious at all.

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Because a few cars being destroyed in a major hurricane is a non issue. If you don't want it to destroy anyting park it in a driveway before the storm hits, or better yet, use it to evacuate. You made a ridiculous claim about EV's being destroyed by seawater "in large numbers" which hasn't been reported anywhere. A grand total of 7 or so were destroyed in Floridas last hurricane.


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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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A question if I may because i don't fully understand why EV batteries cannot handle sea water without catching fire in large numbers? Happened again after Idalia in Florida. Cars get wet. What is it about salt water that causes such a catalyst? More conductivity in the salt water?

Is there a way to harden that system?

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The best way to harden the system is to avoid driving your Tesla until it's submerged in seawater.

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That's an idiotic response during a hurricane with large storm surges that flooded houses and garages.

I asked an honest question. And you replied with a flippant and incredibly ignorant response.

This is why many posters don't like you much. You are not serious at all.

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Because a few cars being destroyed in a major hurricane is a non issue. If you don't want it to destroy anyting park it in a driveway before the storm hits, or better yet, use it to evacuate.

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And get stuck on the interstate somewhere.

Kansas Kid said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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A question if I may because i don't fully understand why EV batteries cannot handle sea water without catching fire in large numbers? Happened again after Idalia in Florida. Cars get wet. What is it about salt water that causes such a catalyst? More conductivity in the salt water?

Is there a way to harden that system?

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The best way to harden the system is to avoid driving your Tesla until it's submerged in seawater.

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That's an idiotic response during a hurricane with large storm surges that flooded houses and garages.

I asked an honest question. And you replied with a flippant and incredibly ignorant response.

This is why many posters don't like you much. You are not serious at all.

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The salt water gets into the battery and causes shorts which can lead to fires. The quickest way to destroy any car is to submerge it in seawater because it destroys all electrical systems which every car needs to operate. It also causes rapid rust which is another major issue.

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An ICE vehicle that is submerged doesn't ignite a fire that burns over at 1,000 degrees. Maybe that is the reason someone would like to know the answer to hawgs question, which is ignored as of yet.

techno-ag said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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A question if I may because i don't fully understand why EV batteries cannot handle sea water without catching fire in large numbers? Happened again after Idalia in Florida. Cars get wet. What is it about salt water that causes such a catalyst? More conductivity in the salt water?

Is there a way to harden that system?

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The best way to harden the system is to avoid driving your Tesla until it's submerged in seawater.

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That's an idiotic response during a hurricane with large storm surges that flooded houses and garages.

I asked an honest question. And you replied with a flippant and incredibly ignorant response.

This is why many posters don't like you much. You are not serious at all.

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Because a few cars being destroyed in a major hurricane is a non issue. If you don't want it to destroy anyting park it in a driveway before the storm hits, or better yet, use it to evacuate.

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And get stuck on the interstate somewhere.

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With 250 to 300 miles of range it's a non issue.

Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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A question if I may because i don't fully understand why EV batteries cannot handle sea water without catching fire in large numbers? Happened again after Idalia in Florida. Cars get wet. What is it about salt water that causes such a catalyst? More conductivity in the salt water?

Is there a way to harden that system?

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The best way to harden the system is to avoid driving your Tesla until it's submerged in seawater.

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That's an idiotic response during a hurricane with large storm surges that flooded houses and garages.

I asked an honest question. And you replied with a flippant and incredibly ignorant response.

This is why many posters don't like you much. You are not serious at all.

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Because a few cars being destroyed in a major hurricane is a non issue. If you don't want it to destroy anyting park it in a driveway before the storm hits, or better yet, use it to evacuate.

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Again, not logical and you're deflecting.

Can you answer the question? Why are EV batteries so vulnerable to sea water?

aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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A question if I may because i don't fully understand why EV batteries cannot handle sea water without catching fire in large numbers? Happened again after Idalia in Florida. Cars get wet. What is it about salt water that causes such a catalyst? More conductivity in the salt water?

Is there a way to harden that system?

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The best way to harden the system is to avoid driving your Tesla until it's submerged in seawater.

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That's an idiotic response during a hurricane with large storm surges that flooded houses and garages.

I asked an honest question. And you replied with a flippant and incredibly ignorant response.

This is why many posters don't like you much. You are not serious at all.

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Because a few cars being destroyed in a major hurricane is a non issue. If you don't want it to destroy anyting park it in a driveway before the storm hits, or better yet, use it to evacuate.

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Again, not logical and you're deflectting.

Can you answer the question? Why are EV batteries so vulnerable to sea water?

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Saltwater and electronics don't play nice. Luckily it's only a problem for morons .

Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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A question if I may because i don't fully understand why EV batteries cannot handle sea water without catching fire in large numbers? Happened again after Idalia in Florida. Cars get wet. What is it about salt water that causes such a catalyst? More conductivity in the salt water?

Is there a way to harden that system?

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The best way to harden the system is to avoid driving your Tesla until it's submerged in seawater.

---

That's an idiotic response during a hurricane with large storm surges that flooded houses and garages.

I asked an honest question. And you replied with a flippant and incredibly ignorant response.

This is why many posters don't like you much. You are not serious at all.

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Because a few cars being destroyed in a major hurricane is a non issue. If you don't want it to destroy anyting park it in a driveway before the storm hits, or better yet, use it to evacuate.

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Again, not logical and you're deflectting.

Can you answer the question? Why are EV batteries so vulnerable to sea water?

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Saltwater and electronics don't play nice. Luckily it's only a problem for morons .

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Electronics do not play nice with any type of water, last I heard. But they don't catch on fire.

PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Kansas Kid said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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A question if I may because i don't fully understand why EV batteries cannot handle sea water without catching fire in large numbers? Happened again after Idalia in Florida. Cars get wet. What is it about salt water that causes such a catalyst? More conductivity in the salt water?

Is there a way to harden that system?

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The best way to harden the system is to avoid driving your Tesla until it's submerged in seawater.

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That's an idiotic response during a hurricane with large storm surges that flooded houses and garages.

I asked an honest question. And you replied with a flippant and incredibly ignorant response.

This is why many posters don't like you much. You are not serious at all.

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The salt water gets into the battery and causes shorts which can lead to fires. The quickest way to destroy any car is to submerge it in seawater because it destroys all electrical systems which every car needs to operate. It also causes rapid rust which is another major issue.

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An ICE vehicle that is submerged doesn't ignite a fire that burns over at 1,000 degrees. Maybe that is the reason someone would like to know the answer to hawgs question, which is ignored as of yet.

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I did answer her question. The salt in saltwater causes shorts in the battery.

I didn't say ICE vehicles catch fire I just pointed out that salt water destroys their electrical systems as well further explaining the point.

aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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A question if I may because i don't fully understand why EV batteries cannot handle sea water without catching fire in large numbers? Happened again after Idalia in Florida. Cars get wet. What is it about salt water that causes such a catalyst? More conductivity in the salt water?

Is there a way to harden that system?

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The best way to harden the system is to avoid driving your Tesla until it's submerged in seawater.

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That's an idiotic response during a hurricane with large storm surges that flooded houses and garages.

I asked an honest question. And you replied with a flippant and incredibly ignorant response.

This is why many posters don't like you much. You are not serious at all.

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Because a few cars being destroyed in a major hurricane is a non issue. If you don't want it to destroy anyting park it in a driveway before the storm hits, or better yet, use it to evacuate.

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Again, not logical and you're deflectting.

Can you answer the question? Why are EV batteries so vulnerable to sea water?

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Saltwater and electronics don't play nice. Luckily it's only a problem for morons .

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Electronis do not play nice with any type of water, last I heard. But they don't catch on fire.

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Chemical reaction, Hawg

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techno-ag said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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A question if I may because i don't fully understand why EV batteries cannot handle sea water without catching fire in large numbers? Happened again after Idalia in Florida. Cars get wet. What is it about salt water that causes such a catalyst? More conductivity in the salt water?

Is there a way to harden that system?

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The best way to harden the system is to avoid driving your Tesla until it's submerged in seawater.

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That's an idiotic response during a hurricane with large storm surges that flooded houses and garages.

I asked an honest question. And you replied with a flippant and incredibly ignorant response.

This is why many posters don't like you much. You are not serious at all.

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Because a few cars being destroyed in a major hurricane is a non issue. If you don't want it to destroy anyting park it in a driveway before the storm hits, or better yet, use it to evacuate.

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And get stuck on the interstate somewhere.

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With 250 to 300 miles of range it's a non issue.

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Yea the problem is sometimes you get stuck in an interstate parking lot. With gasoline someone can easily fetch a gas can. It's harder to truck that generator in for the depleted EV. You yourself have said you've got an ICE pickup truck for hairy situations like that.

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Teslag said:

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techno-ag said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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A question if I may because i don't fully understand why EV batteries cannot handle sea water without catching fire in large numbers? Happened again after Idalia in Florida. Cars get wet. What is it about salt water that causes such a catalyst? More conductivity in the salt water?

Is there a way to harden that system?

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The best way to harden the system is to avoid driving your Tesla until it's submerged in seawater.

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That's an idiotic response during a hurricane with large storm surges that flooded houses and garages.

I asked an honest question. And you replied with a flippant and incredibly ignorant response.

This is why many posters don't like you much. You are not serious at all.

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Because a few cars being destroyed in a major hurricane is a non issue. If you don't want it to destroy anyting park it in a driveway before the storm hits, or better yet, use it to evacuate.

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And get stuck on the interstate somewhere.

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With 250 to 300 miles of range it's a non issue.

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Yea the problem is sometimes you get stuck in an interstate parking lot. With gasoline someone can easily fetch a gas can. It's harder to truck that generator in for the depleted EV. You yourself have said you've got an ICE pickup truck for hairy situations like that.

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With the EV, you essentially aren't using your fuel source when stuck in the parking lot (if you turn off your HVAC) and given the slow speeds, you also use way less than the rated usage so getting well over 300 miles for a Tesla should be easy if you are smart enough fully charge before leaving whereas most ICE vehicles burn more fuel sitting in stop and go traffic. Now if you need to go more than 300+ miles, you may have issues due to Supercharger congestion.

I think it was Harvey where the gas stations on the route out ran out of fuel so unless you brought your own fuel cans, you were SOL.

Salt water is more conductive than regular water and the accumulation of salt on the battery components can result in a short, shorts create heat, heat near battery components cause thermal runaway, thermal runaway results in a fire. The battery pack in an electric vehicle is water resistant, and should generally survive that kind of environment, but every system is fallible.

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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A question if I may because i don't fully understand why EV batteries cannot handle sea water without catching fire in large numbers? Happened again after Idalia in Florida. Cars get wet. What is it about salt water that causes such a catalyst? More conductivity in the salt water?

Is there a way to harden that system?

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The best way to harden the system is to avoid driving your Tesla until it's submerged in seawater.

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That's an idiotic response during a hurricane with large storm surges that flooded houses and garages.

I asked an honest question. And you replied with a flippant and incredibly ignorant response.

This is why many posters don't like you much. You are not serious at all.

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Because a few cars being destroyed in a major hurricane is a non issue. If you don't want it to destroy anyting park it in a driveway before the storm hits, or better yet, use it to evacuate.

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And get stuck on the interstate somewhere.

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With 250 to 300 miles of range it's a non issue.

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Yea the problem is sometimes you get stuck in an interstate parking lot. With gasoline someone can easily fetch a gas can. It's harder to truck that generator in for the depleted EV. You yourself have said you've got an ICE pickup truck for hairy situations like that.

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Its such a non issue he has an internal combustion alternative in case it happens.

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Kansas Kid said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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A question if I may because i don't fully understand why EV batteries cannot handle sea water without catching fire in large numbers? Happened again after Idalia in Florida. Cars get wet. What is it about salt water that causes such a catalyst? More conductivity in the salt water?

Is there a way to harden that system?

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The best way to harden the system is to avoid driving your Tesla until it's submerged in seawater.

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That's an idiotic response during a hurricane with large storm surges that flooded houses and garages.

I asked an honest question. And you replied with a flippant and incredibly ignorant response.

This is why many posters don't like you much. You are not serious at all.

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The salt water gets into the battery and causes shorts which can lead to fires. The quickest way to destroy any car is to submerge it in seawater because it destroys all electrical systems which every car needs to operate. It also causes rapid rust which is another major issue.

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An ICE vehicle that is submerged doesn't ignite a fire that burns over at 1,000 degrees. Maybe that is the reason someone would like to know the answer to hawgs question, which is ignored as of yet.

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I did answer her question. The salt in saltwater causes shorts in the battery.

I didn't say ICE vehicles catch fire I just pointed out that salt water destroys their electrical systems as well further explaining the point.

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After a day or two?

aggiehawg said:

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A question if I may because i don't fully understand why EV batteries cannot handle sea water without catching fire in large numbers? Happened again after Idalia in Florida. Cars get wet. What is it about salt water that causes such a catalyst? More conductivity in the salt water?

Is there a way to harden that system?

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To answer your question from a technical point of view, seawater is much more conductive than freshwater due to the dissolved salts that make it an electrolytic solution. In addition to conducting electricity better, electrolytes also promote galvanic reactions that can lead to corrosion.

https://atlas-scientific.com/blog/water-conductivity-range/

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Kansas Kid said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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A question if I may because i don't fully understand why EV batteries cannot handle sea water without catching fire in large numbers? Happened again after Idalia in Florida. Cars get wet. What is it about salt water that causes such a catalyst? More conductivity in the salt water?

Is there a way to harden that system?

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The best way to harden the system is to avoid driving your Tesla until it's submerged in seawater.

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That's an idiotic response during a hurricane with large storm surges that flooded houses and garages.

I asked an honest question. And you replied with a flippant and incredibly ignorant response.

This is why many posters don't like you much. You are not serious at all.

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The salt water gets into the battery and causes shorts which can lead to fires. The quickest way to destroy any car is to submerge it in seawater because it destroys all electrical systems which every car needs to operate. It also causes rapid rust which is another major issue.

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An ICE vehicle that is submerged doesn't ignite a fire that burns over at 1,000 degrees. Maybe that is the reason someone would like to know the answer to hawgs question, which is ignored as of yet.

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I did answer her question. The salt in saltwater causes shorts in the battery.

I didn't say ICE vehicles catch fire I just pointed out that salt water destroys their electrical systems as well further explaining the point.

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After a day or two?

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The EV issue can crop up weeks after the submersion.

As for ICE vehicles, a friend of mine in college ended up with her car totaled after it flooded in the old Zachary lot during a heavy rainstorm. The issues cropped up over the next month or two. It was fresh water but shows your earlier point of water and electrical systems are never a good match.

Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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A question if I may because i don't fully understand why EV batteries cannot handle sea water without catching fire in large numbers? Happened again after Idalia in Florida. Cars get wet. What is it about salt water that causes such a catalyst? More conductivity in the salt water?

Is there a way to harden that system?

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The best way to harden the system is to avoid driving your Tesla until it's submerged in seawater.

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That's an idiotic response during a hurricane with large storm surges that flooded houses and garages.

I asked an honest question. And you replied with a flippant and incredibly ignorant response.

This is why many posters don't like you much. You are not serious at all.

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Because a few cars being destroyed in a major hurricane is a non issue. If you don't want it to destroy anyting park it in a driveway before the storm hits, or better yet, use it to evacuate.

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Again, not logical and you're deflectting.

Can you answer the question? Why are EV batteries so vulnerable to sea water?

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Saltwater and electronics don't play nice. Luckily it's only a problem for morons .

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There's a lot of stupid people in this world and even if you are smart enough to leave a potentially flooding area, I'd bet most people aren't inclined to separate from their families and would rather leave their second car behind. It's not the most ridiculous of concerns.

You need to stop pretending like EVs are a totally flawless product. I think they're better overall, but they are not without fault. And it's not because people are stupid.

There are certainly claims on this thread that I'd say are misinformed or downright deceptive, but not everything is a wholly manufactured concern.

Well said.

Adding in additional containment and weight is not economically feasible for a situation that is easily avoidable for the very small percentage of EVs located in a storm surge prone area.

How much is the range if it is an evacuation where the roadways are clogged and traveling stop and go for hours due to traffic? Does it decrease the range?

Range is based on EPA highway test (65mph) with a couple of variables. Range increases below 65mph with a peak around 15 to 20 mph. It drops significantly below 10mph due to power needed to overcome rolling resistance. At a standstill power usage is minimal, can go over a day or two running the A/C

Only if you turn the AC on.

But if the SHTF you'll be expected to spend 6 hours driving north on 45 in September without AC. Better hope you don't have an infant child!

Below is the storm surge risk map, you can click on the different storm categories to seen the various risk areas.

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/203f772571cb48b1b8b50fdcc3272e2c/page/Category-3/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/09/01/tesla-fire-hurricane-idalia-flooding-ev-combustion-issue/70738027007/

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A Tesla combusted Wednesday in Hurricane Idalia floodwaters near Tampa, prompting officials to remind residents of the dangers of electric vehicles coming in contact with saltwater.

"If you own a hybrid or electric vehicle that has come into contact with saltwater due to recent flooding within the last 24 hours, it is crucial to relocate the vehicle from your garage without delay," the a post by nearby Palm Harbor Fire Rescue reads. "Saltwater exposure can trigger combustion in lithium-ion batteries. If possible, transfer your vehicle to higher ground."

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Kansas Kid said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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A question if I may because i don't fully understand why EV batteries cannot handle sea water without catching fire in large numbers? Happened again after Idalia in Florida. Cars get wet. What is it about salt water that causes such a catalyst? More conductivity in the salt water?

Is there a way to harden that system?

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The best way to harden the system is to avoid driving your Tesla until it's submerged in seawater.

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That's an idiotic response during a hurricane with large storm surges that flooded houses and garages.

I asked an honest question. And you replied with a flippant and incredibly ignorant response.

This is why many posters don't like you much. You are not serious at all.

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The salt water gets into the battery and causes shorts which can lead to fires. The quickest way to destroy any car is to submerge it in seawater because it destroys all electrical systems which every car needs to operate. It also causes rapid rust which is another major issue.

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An ICE vehicle that is submerged doesn't ignite a fire that burns over at 1,000 degrees. Maybe that is the reason someone would like to know the answer to hawgs question, which is ignored as of yet.

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I did answer her question. The salt in saltwater causes shorts in the battery.

I didn't say ICE vehicles catch fire I just pointed out that salt water destroys their electrical systems as well further explaining the point.

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After a day or two?

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The EV issue can crop up weeks after the submersion.

As for ICE vehicles, a friend of mine in college ended up with her car totaled after it flooded in the old Zachary lot during a heavy rainstorm. The issues cropped up over the next month or two. It was fresh water but shows your earlier point of water and electrical systems are never a good match.

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It caught on fire and burned for a long time?

Any current Tesla could easily handle houston to Dallas in 6h with AC blasting.

It could easily do it in 12h with AC on but probably not blasting the whole time.

The other poster is clearly being obtuse by comparing electrical gremlins that likely lasted weeks before a total loss was declared with a spontaneous combustion that burns hotter than the texas sun in a July parking lot.

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aggiehawg said:

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Kansas Kid said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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A question if I may because i don't fully understand why EV batteries cannot handle sea water without catching fire in large numbers? Happened again after Idalia in Florida. Cars get wet. What is it about salt water that causes such a catalyst? More conductivity in the salt water?

Is there a way to harden that system?

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The best way to harden the system is to avoid driving your Tesla until it's submerged in seawater.

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That's an idiotic response during a hurricane with large storm surges that flooded houses and garages.

I asked an honest question. And you replied with a flippant and incredibly ignorant response.

This is why many posters don't like you much. You are not serious at all.

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The salt water gets into the battery and causes shorts which can lead to fires. The quickest way to destroy any car is to submerge it in seawater because it destroys all electrical systems which every car needs to operate. It also causes rapid rust which is another major issue.

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An ICE vehicle that is submerged doesn't ignite a fire that burns over at 1,000 degrees. Maybe that is the reason someone would like to know the answer to hawgs question, which is ignored as of yet.

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I did answer her question. The salt in saltwater causes shorts in the battery.

I didn't say ICE vehicles catch fire I just pointed out that salt water destroys their electrical systems as well further explaining the point.

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After a day or two?

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The EV issue can crop up weeks after the submersion.

As for ICE vehicles, a friend of mine in college ended up with her car totaled after it flooded in the old Zachary lot during a heavy rainstorm. The issues cropped up over the next month or two. It was fresh water but shows your earlier point of water and electrical systems are never a good match.

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It caught on fire and burned for a long time?

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The EV fires can last a lot longer than regular car fires but generally measured in a few hours. I don't think they are longer when it is caused by salt water than other EV battery fires but I haven't heard.

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The other poster is clearly being obtuse by comparing electrical gremlins that likely lasted weeks before a total loss was declared with a spontaneous combustion that burns hotter than the texas sun in a July parking lot.

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I wasn't being obtuse. I was adding directly to a comment Hawg had made about water and electrical don't generally mix.

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A question if I may because i don't fully understand why EV batteries cannot handle sea water without catching fire in large numbers? Happened again after Idalia in Florida. Cars get wet. What is it about salt water that causes such a catalyst? More conductivity in the salt water?

Is there a way to harden that system?

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The best way to harden the system is to avoid driving your Tesla until it's submerged in seawater.

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That's an idiotic response during a hurricane with large storm surges that flooded houses and garages.

I asked an honest question. And you replied with a flippant and incredibly ignorant response.

This is why many posters don't like you much. You are not serious at all.

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Because a few cars being destroyed in a major hurricane is a non issue. If you don't want it to destroy anyting park it in a driveway before the storm hits, or better yet, use it to evacuate.

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And get stuck on the interstate somewhere.

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With 250 to 300 miles of range it's a non issue.

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Yea the problem is sometimes you get stuck in an interstate parking lot. With gasoline someone can easily fetch a gas can. It's harder to truck that generator in for the depleted EV. You yourself have said you've got an ICE pickup truck for hairy situations like that.

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Its such a non issue he has an internal combustion alternative in case it happens.

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I have a truck for towing. If I need to evacuate a hurricane I'm taking the Tesla 10 times out of 10

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A question if I may because i don't fully understand why EV batteries cannot handle sea water without catching fire in large numbers? Happened again after Idalia in Florida. Cars get wet. What is it about salt water that causes such a catalyst? More conductivity in the salt water?

Is there a way to harden that system?

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The best way to harden the system is to avoid driving your Tesla until it's submerged in seawater.

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That's an idiotic response during a hurricane with large storm surges that flooded houses and garages.

I asked an honest question. And you replied with a flippant and incredibly ignorant response.

This is why many posters don't like you much. You are not serious at all.

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Because a few cars being destroyed in a major hurricane is a non issue. If you don't want it to destroy anyting park it in a driveway before the storm hits, or better yet, use it to evacuate.

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Again, not logical and you're deflectting.

Can you answer the question? Why are EV batteries so vulnerable to sea water?

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Saltwater and electronics don't play nice. Luckily it's only a problem for morons .

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There's a lot of stupid people in this world and even if you are smart enough to leave a potentially flooding area, I'd bet most people aren't inclined to separate from their families and would rather leave their second car behind. It's not the most ridiculous of concerns.

You need to stop pretending like EVs are a totally flawless product. I think they're better overall, but they are not without fault. And it's not because people are stupid.

There are certainly claims on this thread that I'd say are misinformed or downright deceptive, but not everything is a wholly manufactured concern.

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I don't think I've ever said they are flawless. For towing and use as an actual truck they are terrible. For people that can't install a home charger they are too. But for most Americans they are practical.

However if someone leaves an EV parked in a garage after they evacuate a hurricane and it burns their house down that person is a moron. There's news of a few EV's catching fire after a hurricane. Not lots. A few. It's a nonissue and another straw grab by the group that "totally doesn't hate EV's, just the mandates" crowd.