Have you gotten mad at the other Disney films that feature kissing and asked why the people who put it in the film are obsessed with sex?

Exactly. I just hadn't scrolled down far enough. That's not even all of them either. Honestly every Disney movie I saw as a kid was essentially a romance in cartoon form. Kinda weird if you think about it.

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BAP Enthusiast said:

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Why is there any kissing in this movie to begin with? Why the hell does everything revolve around sex for these people?

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there has been kissing in Disney movies before

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Not by queers.

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Id rather you just call me the f word.

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Exactly. I just hadn't scrolled down far enough. That's not even all of them either. Honestly every Disney movie I saw as a kid was essentially a romance in cartoon form. Kinda weird if you think about it.

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FWIW, that sexuality is still allowed in PreK-3 in Florida schools. So it's really not to prevent groomers as the fine Gov DeSantis said.

Nobody thinks that except for you. Jesus Christ get a grip

Better than your usual dribble

Dribble as in the spit. Double entendre

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ESPN interrupted its coverage of women’s NCAA tournament for a moment of silence to protest the “don’t say gay,” bill. So is @espn’s official policy as a company that public schools need to teach kindergarten through 3rd grade kids about sex?! Insanity: pic.twitter.com/cJjQAMQVZL

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) March 18, 2022

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Annie…sex is very much still allowed in Florida schools at this age. A Republican tried to change legislation to encompass all sexuality, but that didn't achieve the desired level of pandering.

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Dribble as in the spit. Double entendre

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Yeah, ok. Whatever you say. Nice save….

I would like you to point out the flaw in my logic. If I am the only one that believes it, your superior intellect should be easy to assert. I haven't seen you make a single assertion you back up why you think there's nothing wrong with it.

You going to actually say something worth a damn, or just be a troll?

And the scene (along with the entire relationship) will be removed from the Chinese version, because $$$.

I just don't understand how jumped go through conclusion that cause a same sex couple kissing means we think that men are women and women are men

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And the scene (along with the entire relationship) will be removed from the Chinese version, because $$$.

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Wonder why not in the US if there's so many of you?

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I just don't understand how jumped go through conclusion that cause a same sex couple kissing means we think that men are women and women are men

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I explained it pretty simply. Are you of the opinion that this action is occurring in a vacuum with no ideology undergirding it? They already said that the two women are obviously in a relationship, so it's not like they're hiding the ball.

Or do you just not understand how believing men and women are sexually interchangeable means you believe there is no such thing as sexual difference? Because that's a pretty simple math problem.

Yeah I'm not getting the logic either. I know I'm a woman, and enjoy that fact about myself. Not a man. The woman I'm with is a woman confident in her womanhood, which I enjoy about her too. Very different and not sexually or romantically interchangeable with a man because I want nothing to do with being with a man. Pretty starkly different.

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Why is there any kissing in this movie to begin with? Why the hell does everything revolve around sex for these people?

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BlueAg2003 said:

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Exactly. I just hadn't scrolled down far enough. That's not even all of them either. Honestly every Disney movie I saw as a kid was essentially a romance in cartoon form. Kinda weird if you think about it.

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You mean Baloo being a bear and Mowgli being his cub wasn't just a protective relationship/friendship.

Nope, they were doing the dirty. Ok, not the Jungle Book, but for sure all the princess movies all of us young girls were taught to watch. Weird genre if you think about it.

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Yeah I'm not getting the logic either. I know I'm a woman, and enjoy that fact about myself. Not a man. The woman I'm with is a woman confident in her womanhood, which I enjoy about her too. Very different and not sexually or romantically interchangeable with a man because I want nothing to do with being with a man. Pretty starkly different.

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I'm not saying that you don't understand the physical differences between men and women, and it has nothing to do with your personal preferences. I'm simply pointing out that the ideology that undergirds same-sex couples in the first place is one that denies meaningful sexual difference. If there is no difference between a couple and a same-sex couple, that means that men and women are effectively the same when it comes to their sexual roles. If X + X = Z, Y + Y = Z, and X + Y = Z, then X = Y. Now extrapolate that to human relationships. It's a central tenant to any kind of philosophy that supports gay marriage because any recognition that sexual difference matters completely destroys the concept of same-sex couples.

I'm answering the question as to why it is bad to show this to children. It is bad because it promotes an ideology about sexual difference that is neither true nor productive. We shouldn't teach our children things that aren't true.

Accepting this ideology as reasonable just becomes more and more incoherent when you proceed to its logical conclusions. It's how the LGBT agenda has dovetailed into so many radical areas.

Toy Story is a series geared toward very young children...I would venture to say even younger than some of the Disney princess films with romantic storylines between actual people. Like, preschool age. So I'm not sure why of all films they would choose this one to force something like that in.

I was initially thinking about taking my 5-year-old to see it because he loves Toy Story. But probably not now. He'll eventually reach an age when he sees things that are different and can handle it (I remember Mrs. Doubtfire when I was 9) , but not yet.

My head hurts from reading that. I think the central focus for me in my same-sex relationship (and that of anyone I know or those that want to find that relationship) is that they love the person and want to spend the rest of their lives with that person. It's that simple….not a math equation and complicated theories.

Anything you would like me to clarify further? I thought I laid it out pretty well. Maybe I'm not, but the logic is at least as easy to understand as the volume of a cone…

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And the scene (along with the entire relationship) will be removed from the Chinese version, because $$$.

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Wonder why not in the US if there's so many of you?

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No, just reinforcing that this little corner of outrage on the internet is a minority.

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Yeah I'm not getting the logic either. I know I'm a woman, and enjoy that fact about myself. Not a man. The woman I'm with is a woman confident in her womanhood, which I enjoy about her too. Very different and not sexually or romantically interchangeable with a man because I want nothing to do with being with a man. Pretty starkly different.

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I'm not saying that you don't understand the physical differences between men and women, and it has nothing to do with your personal preferences. I'm simply pointing out that the ideology that undergirds same-sex couples in the first place is one that denies meaningful sexual difference. If there is no difference between a couple and a same-sex couple, that means that men and women are effectively the same when it comes to their sexual roles. If X + X = Z, Y + Y = Z, and X + Y = Z, then X = Y. Now extrapolate that to human relationships. It's a central tenant to any kind of philosophy that supports gay marriage because any recognition that sexual difference matters completely destroys the concept of same-sex couples.

I'm answering the question as to why it is bad to show this to children. It is bad because it promotes an ideology about sexual difference that is neither true nor productive. We shouldn't teach our children things that aren't true.

Accepting this ideology as reasonable just becomes more and more incoherent when you proceed to its logical conclusions. It's how the LGBT agenda has dovetailed into so many radical areas.

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LGBT people exist whether you think they should or not and representation matters. Am I a proponent of sexualizing kids? Of course not, but kisses exist in Disney movies and if we get one who cares. Your sexualize argument falls apart because there are countless M/F kisses in childrens movies.

To get revenge on Desantis, Disney is going to make their movie less family friendly. Galaxy brain reaction right there

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My head hurts from reading that. I think the central focus for me in my same-sex relationship (and that of anyone I know or those that want to find that relationship) is that they love the person and want to spend the rest of their lives with that person. It's that simple….not a math equation and complicated theories.

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You're allowed to focus on whatever you want. The question is "what are we teaching our children?"

There are tons of people and everyone's life that they love and hold dear. That doesn't mean that we should teach that it is good to have a sexual relationship with anyone you love. The underlying question is really "what is the point of a couple?" Is it just two people who feel an unquantifiable amount of love for each other? Or is it to propagate and raise the next generation? Does sexual difference actually play a role in the morality of relationships? You have to determine the actual point of sex and sexual relationships.

Our current culture has embraced the ideology of "if it feels good, do it." My point is that the ideology of hedonism dovetails into a lot of bad places, many of which are starting to pop up in our culture. I believe that it is a bad message to teach children, especially under the coercion of movies aimed at the youngest.

Of course, nobody in our current culture wants to actually think about the philosophical implications of what they're doing and advocating for because we are arrogant and think that those that came before us weren't smart enough to understand modern times. You're welcome to do what you want in your personal life, but I think I've laid out a pretty good argument as to why we shouldn't just embrace same-sex couples and foist it onto children as a good thing.

I'm sure it's going to be the most graphic tonsil licking kiss we've ever seen on screen and every kid is going to walk out of the theater believing dad is no different than mom. Sorry to all the soon to be emasculated men.

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Why is there any kissing in this movie to begin with? Why the hell does everything revolve around sex for these people?

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Pretty much every Disney movie has some kind of kiss in it, all the way back to Snow White.

The joke I always heard was that Disney movies and porn have caused more warped perceptions of relationships than any other cultural forces.

'Where's my Prince Charming?' 'Where's my insatiable *****'

Disney ain't a friend of anybody here folks.

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