Year of the Germaphobe said:

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The Shank Ag said:

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Line Ate Member said:

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Whose sock is Thrax?

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That ninja guy that always posts question threads is my guess

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That's what I'm thinking.

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I'm going with Hedge.

Panama Red said:

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Where did you see he wasn't going to run?

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Can't find the article I saw about his wife's health, but he did apparently shoot it down on Hannity some time back:

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Governor Ron DeSantis is in fact running for re-election as governor of Florida.

He confirmed the news on an appearance on Hannity on Fox News Thursday evening after he was asked about whether he would be running for president in 2024.

"I'm not considering doing anything but my job," DeSantis said. "We've got a lot of stuff going on in Florida. I'm going to be running for re-election next year."

Source

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My preference is DeSantis because all the leftists need to reenergize their currently listless base is "RACIST DRUMPH IS BACK! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!"

My hope is Trump understands this and that his real usefulness is as a distraction to keep the focus of the media outrage on him and off of DeSantis for a little while longer

And let's face it, who better to give the job of "get the media focused totally on you to troll the crap out of them"

Thrax said:

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Didn't he say in 2016 he wouldn't support the R candidate if it wasn't him and he would run on his own

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2024 won't be 2016. The political environment is incredibly different, especially for Trump.

Thrax said:

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Didn't he say in 2016 he wouldn't support the R candidate if it wasn't him and he would run on his own

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He got wind of the establishment GOP cronies' plans to upend the primary. It was a cold political maneuver to keep Sen. Mike Lee and the establishment GOP corrupting the convention, too.

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Utah Sen. Mike Lee is not only going to the convention he is serving as a delegate on the powerful Rules Committee, along with his wife. As one of the 112-member committee, Lee will play a role in drafting the rules for the convention. Meanwhile, an effort is underway to strip delegates of binding and allow them to vote for whomever they choose on the floor, and Lee could determine whether or not that movement gets a chance to get a vote on the floor of the convention.
Randy Evans, an RNC committeeman from Georgia and Rules Committee delegate and lawyer who has worked with the RNC and Trump campaign, has compiled a list tracking delegate leanings at the convention. He estimates that right now, the delegate unbinding effort has about 18 members of the Rules Committee behind it far short of the 28 needed to get a minority report that merits an up-or-down vote on the convention floor.
But he expects that Lee, who has thus far declined to publicly commit on the movement, could play game-changer as one of the highest-profile members of the committee.

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I will vote for whichever one wins nomination.

Which will be Trump

Fair enough. In the end I just want this administration out of office

Trump is 75 and DeSantis is 43. If Trump wants to run again, I could see DeSantis holding off. I'd like to see DeSantis more, but on bright side we will get to watch some world class lib and media REEEEE

I'd like to see Trump pick Candice Owens to be his VP. Watch the media argue a full black woman is not qualified while pumping biracial veepthroat. That VP debate would be epic.

Line Ate Member said:

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um Trump didn't "lose" to Poopy. Next year, we are going to see issues in North Carolina though similar to Michigan, Wisconsin and the like.

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Alright, so if you believe that the alphabet soup agencies conspired with voting machine companies and Dems did ballot stuffing with mail-in, what makes you think he can overcome that in 2024? I mean, really, if you believe the election was stolen, what safeguards or protections have been put in place to prevent it in the future?

Michigan was bullcrap, for sure. You can't get 12 people to agree on something let alone 120,000 consecutively.

From where I sit, you're staring the exact same outcome, in the face.

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I lived in NC last year and expected a fight. They delayed the "results" but only after it was for sure Arizona and the others were in the "clear".

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Speaking of Arizona, perhaps dunking on McCain after his death wasn't a good idea.

DeSantis is what we need and I'd love to see Trump throw his full support behind him and become a king maker so to speak. I don't want to see those two go at one another and give the dems talking points to use in November.

Age is undefeated and we don't need 78 year olds democrat or republican. Trump will re energize the media and the left and it will be 2016 to 2020 all over again. BLM will ramp up again and the left will push the narrative of hate and racism as there dog whistle once again.

That's what every candidate says. "I'm focusing on winning Governor/senate/etc, not the next election".

Thrax said:

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If he is the nominee and trump isn't and he decides to run independent will y'all vote for trump?

Will this cause a permanent shift in the GOP?

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Ah, this is a new topic

Was just trying to have a discussion, didn't mean to upset people

Hope you are right and he's planning to run. Him or Noem would be my preference.

Trump will be the nominee. Outside of F16 he's way ahead.

DeSantis:

• Fights as hard as Trump
• Doesn't have Trump's baggage
• Smarter than Trump
• Better policies, although they're not terribly different
• Better chance of winning the general election
• Younger
• Scares the everliving hell out of the Democrats

I would vote Trump over any Romney-like GOP candidate, but if we want to win and make a long term push against the insane left, RDS is the guy.

FrioAg 00 said:

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Not sure if you've looked at any actual poll numbers, but if Trump runs he's getting the GOP nomination. It's not a question.

That's pains me to say it because I greatly favor DeSantis. He's got all of Trumps positives and he doesn't have 6 years of media-manufactured TDS that will generate millions of additional votes for literally anyone running against him. (Including a bunch of dumba** CMs who would otherwise vote R)

My two hopes are that (1) Trump decides not to run or (2) the Dems run someone so awful and despised like Hillary, Harris or Biden - that Trump wins anyway

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Trump wasn't even showing up on polls in 2014 at this point. Obama was certainly not showing up on polls in 2006 either. Neither was even at 1%. Polls right now mean absolutely nothing.

Does Trump win? Maybe, but one of a dozen things could derail that for Trump. I also think DeSantis is one of the few folks that Trump might step back for. Certainly that would be the better move for the country and for the GOP.

Can you imagine how bad a debate between DeSantis and Biden would go for the Dems? They could have Joy Reed moderate it and it wouldn't matter. Same with Kamala. The Dems have no one that can compete with him and the visual of a 43 year old DeSantis up against a nearly 80 year old Biden would be striking and the only fear would be elder abuse.

If Trump actually wins though he will justify one of my main criticisms about him, he is a self absorbed narcissist. Trump would be running to prove he should have won in 2020 and not because it is the best thing for the country and he would know that. It would be pure ego.

Give the Gen X guy a chance.

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ttu_85 said:

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FrioAg 00 said:

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Not sure if you've looked at any actual poll numbers, but if Trump runs he's getting the GOP nomination. It's not a question.

That's pains me to say it because I greatly favor DeSantis. He's got all of Trumps positives and he doesn't have 6 years of media-manufactured TDS that will generate millions of additional votes for literally anyone running against him. (Including a bunch of dumba** CMs who would otherwise vote R)

My two hopes are that (1) Trump decides not to run or (2) the Dems run someone so awful and despised like Hillary, Harris or Biden - that Trump wins anyway

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This is true now. But as the campaign progresses I think you see a huge shift. Biden is going to ruin the idea of really old guys as president for a while.

Trumps age will be a big deal.

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What about old gals (Hillary)? She's no spring chicken either!

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Hillary was never qualified at any age.

TexAgs91 said:

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Trump will be the nominee. Outside of F16 he's way ahead.

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Betcha it doesn't stay that way. Oh and watch the Media, in the primaries they will suddenly be Trumps big buddy just like 2016. He is the only candidate Biden or any demorat would have a chance to beat. BTW if Trump is the nom I back him in the general. Until then its DeSantis.

Line Ate Member said:

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Whose sock is Thrax?

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Hedge?

Fightin TX Aggie said:

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DeSantis:

• Fights as hard as Trump
• Doesn't have Trump's baggage
• Smarter than Trump
• Better policies, although they're not terribly different
• Better chance of winning the general election
• Younger
• Scares the everliving hell out of the Democrats

I would vote Trump over any Romney-like GOP candidate, but if we want to win and make a long term push against the insane left, RDS is the guy.

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This.

There will be a DeSantis sign in my yard come 2024.

TexAgs91 said:

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Trump will be the nominee. Outside of F16 he's way ahead.

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Correct
Super nerdy educates dudes that argue on mssg boards and analyze data

Trump despite the fix git 78 million votes

Obama 66
When Romney git what 62 or 63

Poopy pants got 81 lol

In Zona Trump had 100 miles of cars at a rally.

In 16 Trump beat a Clinton and that was rigged too just didn't have the last minute rig system. How many electoral votes did Trump get? Add 75

Trump won big.

Line Ate Member said:

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Thrax said:

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Didn't he say in 2016 he wouldn't support the R candidate if it wasn't him and he would run on his own

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This has to be some lib gathering information to try and push a new message to the media. Who the hell talks like this and takes the stands this guy has taken.

Next week on the Fake News, "Is trouble brewing within the GOP?". The sheep our out to graze.

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This time they really got him!

This time it's for real!

Thrax said:

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If he is the nominee and trump isn't and he decides to run independent will y'all vote for trump?

Will this cause a permanent shift in the GOP?

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good point that sore loser Trump might want to burn the entire GOP down if he doesn't win the nomination

because that is how much he cares about the Republican party. (roll eyes)

DeSantis can beat him fair and square.

GOP primary voters should tell Trump "thanks, you had your two opportunities already to run for President. you aren't going to be our single nominee for 12 straight years."

the country has 330 million people- we can't find ONE better than a retread, 80 year old despised twice impeached, 3 times married, lost to Joe Biden, serial adulterer, coarse and vulgar guy?!?!

really? the GOP can't find ONE person better than that to nominate?

Trump, the only person in America proven tough enough to stand up against evil. DeSantis is good running mate.

This thread has everything. The lib posing as a concerned moderate and MFBarnes has joined the fray.

What a day to be alive.

The absolute best role for Trump going forward is kingmaker and lightning rod. He can keep the base fired up, help get the best candidates on the ballot, and keep the media distracted from DeSantis.

Line Ate Member said:

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This thread has everything. The lib posing as a concerned moderate and MFBarnes has joined the fray.

What a day to be alive.

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Sicandtired has another new account?

I'm not a liberal

ttu_85 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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Trump will be the nominee. Outside of F16 he's way ahead.

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Betcha it doesn't stay that way. Oh and watch the Media, in the primaries they will suddenly be Trumps big buddy just like 2016. He is the only candidate Biden or any demorat would have a chance to beat. BTW if Trump is the nom I back him in the general. Until then its DeSantis.

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Biden only has a chance to "beat" Trump if he cheats like he did before. And (again because never Trumpers will never grasp this) he or any other puppet lib could also "beat" any republican candidate including DeSantis by cheating.

BTW, I don't seek approval from the media for my vote like never Trumpers do.

Year of the Germaphobe said:

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I'll vote for anyone that isn't a Democrat.

I like Trump & DeSantis equally though.

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numetalbizkitaggie said:

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Speaking of Arizona, perhaps dunking on McCain after his death wasn't a good idea.

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How else are you dunking on him? Dude had mad hops!

HumbleAg04
That said Trump will be 78. We already have one of those. You can argue all you want about energy levels but nobody beats time. Need younger new energy.
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This has been a serious problem for the Republican Party. Reagan was spent by the time he left office. Elder bush was old and stayed out of the limelight. GW was such an embarrassment he crawled in a hole after leaving office.

Compare that to Clinton who was a part of every election since he left office. Obama is still influential behind the scenes and will be for a long time. We need someone younger who can still maintain the movement after leaving office.

Year of the Germaphobe said:

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Thrax said:

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That's the problem, are you gonna tow the line for trump or give your vote to the Rs. If the vote is split, Dems win

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I'm going to vote for the candidate that has the greatest chance of success against whoever the democrat incumbent or challenger is.

Period.

If you think any Republican cares about Trump more than regulating the democrat party, you're watching waaaaaaaaaay too much MSM.

I'm in flag waving, truck driving, central lol. None of these guys will think twice about voting the same way.

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Didn't you post literally yesterday that if Trump didn't get the nomination, you wouldn't vote?

Kvetch said:

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Year of the Germaphobe said:

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The Shank Ag said:

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Line Ate Member said:

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Whose sock is Thrax?

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That ninja guy that always posts question threads is my guess

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That's what I'm thinking.

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I'm going with Hedge.

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It's definitely Azul / Hedge.

And no dumbass, you are not anything close to a libertarian.