You are trying to have a discussion with a person who has the mental capacity of a gnat.
Rossticus said:
It's still early.
And by the way. Treating a kid, especially a kid who is confused as hell about what they feel and why, like there's something wrong, or faulty, or broken, or embarrassing, or bad about them is the surest way to really mess them up for life and mess up your relationship with them.
Get them therapy and try to work to get to the heart of why they feel like they do so that they can understand themselves and you can help them through their childhood in as happy and healthy a way as possible. So that when they reach adulthood they can then make informed and intelligent decisions about themselves, their own self care, and their own lifestyle.
Kids look to their parents for unconditional love, support, and understanding. We don't need any more messed up people with parent issues that spend their entire lives trying to fill the empty hole of a lost parental relationship with all sorts of terrible things. It's amazing how many people there are that are messed up for life because of mom and/or dad.
What is incontrovertible in all of this is that if your handling of the situation damages a child either physically OR emotionally/psychologically then you did the wrong thing. The child, and the adult that child becomes, is the ultimate arbiter of that.
TXAGFAN said:
It's always easier to say this sort of thing when you never had to face it. When prospects include losing a kid I've seen plenty of attitudes change, the ones that don't it never ends well.
TheEternalPessimist said:My viewpoint will never change.TXAGFAN said:
It's always easier to say this sort of thing when you never had to face it. When prospects include losing a kid I've seen plenty of attitudes change, the ones that don't it never ends well.
Homosexuality, Transgenderism, and Sexual Promiscuity are sinful and destructive to civilization.
The Bible is ALWAYS right.
The notion that "everyone" willfully ignores some part of the Bible has no bearing on its substance.Infection_Ag11 said:TheEternalPessimist said:My viewpoint will never change.TXAGFAN said:
It's always easier to say this sort of thing when you never had to face it. When prospects include losing a kid I've seen plenty of attitudes change, the ones that don't it never ends well.
Homosexuality, Transgenderism, and Sexual Promiscuity are sinful and destructive to civilization.
The Bible is ALWAYS right.
Anyone who followed the Bible to the T would be a felon in the United States, and every other first world nation on the planet. Everyone ignores at least some of it.
Nope, this isn't something I am any kind of expert in. Just see the same commentary about trans people that used to be common re: gay people - uncommon today but still alive and well on Texags evidenced by a few posts in this thread.Agthatbuilds said:TXAGFAN said:
It's always easier to say this sort of thing when you never had to face it. When prospects include losing a kid I've seen plenty of attitudes change, the ones that don't it never ends well.
Can you explain why there has been such a rapid increase in trans cases, especially in ftm, over the last 5 to 10 years?
That may be, but there's also been a massive shift in attitudes about being LGBT. When I was a teen and in college being gay was probably one of the worst things in the world and to be out was almost unheard of. I know literally dozens of guys that came out after college at A&M alone, was in some organizations during that time at A&M where more than 10% of the guys were closet gays. Most of us are out, but a few I know did fall to societal pressures and married women, had kids, etc. I'm sure those situations won't last and know one who recently divorced and came out. That's not the right answer for sure.Agthatbuilds said:
I recently read there was a 4000% increase between 2009-2019 in mtf transformation requests in the uk.
I dont believe that qyick of an increase is normal or expected and cannot be explained without societal mechanisms included, such as schooling, social media and peer pressure.
Dont believe that is necessarily the standard of care for either situation, but I'm not a mental health professional. Are you?cecil77 said:
That's specious.
Being gay doesn't require chemical and physical (an unalterable) changes to the body.
To be intellectually honest, people supporting sexual transitions must support helping anorexics achieve their body weight target.
LOL, who says romance is dead with that Elmore Leonard style sentence structure.Quote:
Last I heard of this guy he had knocked up a local weather girl (while married with kids!) and moved off to Wisconsin or some such.
Hey @miketaylorshow you referred to my wife, who's run a $1b clothing and lifestyle brand for 12 years as a "nudie magazine girl? True?
— Richard Marx (@richardmarx) October 11, 2017
Who says you have to take parenting advice from him?Quote:
Apparently one of his spawns with said former weather girl has decided she wants to be a he and they moved to Hawaii to be around like-minded people? He has decided to lend his powerful voice to oppose the latest transgender laws, lol. Yes, I am going to take parenting advice from this guy.
TXAGFAN said:That may be, but there's also been a massive shift in attitudes about being LGBT. When I was a teen and in college being gay was probably one of the worst things in the world and to be out was almost unheard of. I know literally dozens of guys that came out after college at A&M alone, was in some organizations during that time at A&M where more than 10% of the guys were closet gays. Most of us are out, but a few I know did fall to societal pressures and married women, had kids, etc. I'm sure those situations won't last and know one who recently divorced and came out. That's not the right answer for sure.Agthatbuilds said:
I recently read there was a 4000% increase between 2009-2019 in mtf transformation requests in the uk.
I dont believe that qyick of an increase is normal or expected and cannot be explained without societal mechanisms included, such as schooling, social media and peer pressure.
Today based on young gay men I've met at A&M that would be far more common and accepted so these gays are out in higher numbers. I don't think that's some kind of abnormal trend - just the benefit of a more open and accepting population.
Not to derail too much, but you're right...San Antonio sports talk is awful. There's some guy who comes on at 2 on 760 and ends almost every sentence with something like "and that's another thing too as well." Unreal.rgag12 said:
Mike Taylor stinks, I have no idea why people listen to him. His whole bit revolves around taking words like "Mexican" and saying "Mesican".
He moved to Hawaii and still does SA radio? How freakin talent devoid is the radio space that clear channel or whoever runs his station agreed to that?
Agthatbuilds said:TXAGFAN said:That may be, but there's also been a massive shift in attitudes about being LGBT. When I was a teen and in college being gay was probably one of the worst things in the world and to be out was almost unheard of. I know literally dozens of guys that came out after college at A&M alone, was in some organizations during that time at A&M where more than 10% of the guys were closet gays. Most of us are out, but a few I know did fall to societal pressures and married women, had kids, etc. I'm sure those situations won't last and know one who recently divorced and came out. That's not the right answer for sure.Agthatbuilds said:
I recently read there was a 4000% increase between 2009-2019 in mtf transformation requests in the uk.
I dont believe that qyick of an increase is normal or expected and cannot be explained without societal mechanisms included, such as schooling, social media and peer pressure.
Today based on young gay men I've met at A&M that would be far more common and accepted so these gays are out in higher numbers. I don't think that's some kind of abnormal trend - just the benefit of a more open and accepting population.
I don't disagree about increased acceptance leading to more gay people being openly gay.
I dont think trans is a comparable situation.
Still a dude.Frederick Palowaski said:Agthatbuilds said:TXAGFAN said:That may be, but there's also been a massive shift in attitudes about being LGBT. When I was a teen and in college being gay was probably one of the worst things in the world and to be out was almost unheard of. I know literally dozens of guys that came out after college at A&M alone, was in some organizations during that time at A&M where more than 10% of the guys were closet gays. Most of us are out, but a few I know did fall to societal pressures and married women, had kids, etc. I'm sure those situations won't last and know one who recently divorced and came out. That's not the right answer for sure.Agthatbuilds said:
I recently read there was a 4000% increase between 2009-2019 in mtf transformation requests in the uk.
I dont believe that qyick of an increase is normal or expected and cannot be explained without societal mechanisms included, such as schooling, social media and peer pressure.
Today based on young gay men I've met at A&M that would be far more common and accepted so these gays are out in higher numbers. I don't think that's some kind of abnormal trend - just the benefit of a more open and accepting population.
I don't disagree about increased acceptance leading to more gay people being openly gay.
I dont think trans is a comparable situation.
She's being deliberately obtuse as usual.
And two of those three have been around since day 1.Quote:
My viewpoint will never change.
Homosexuality, Transgenderism, and Sexual Promiscuity are sinful and destructive to civilization.
The Bible is ALWAYS right.
The one written in 382, 349 years after the Orthodox Bible?Quote:
Well the Catholic bible is the original so I'm gonna go with that
[url=https://www.catholic.org/bible/][/url]Quote:
The New Jerusalem Bible (NJB) is a Catholic translation of the Bible published in 1985. The New Jerusalem Bible (NJB) has become the most widely used Roman Catholic Bible outside of the United States. It has the imprimatur of Cardinal George Basil Hume.
Like its predecessor, the Jerusalem Bible, the New Jerusalem Bible (NJB) version is translated "directly from the Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic." The 1973 French translation, the Bible de Jerusalem, is followed only "where the text admits to more than one interpretation." Introductions and notes, with some modifications, are taken from the Bible de Jerusalem.LInk