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Minneapolis has released bodycam footage showing the moment Amir Locke, an armed 22-year-old Black man, was shot by a SWAT team executing a search warrant in a homicide investigation.

The family of Locke -- who later died at a local hospital -- is now preparing to hold a news conference Friday as their attorney Ben Crump is comparing the officer-involved shooting to the 2020 raid in which law enforcement killed Breonna Taylor in her home in Louisville, Kentucky, which led to nationwide calls for police reform.

"Police search warrant! Police search warrant!" officers are heard yelling in the video clip after keying their way into an apartment early Wednesday morning. Moments after one of the SWAT team members asks Locke to "show me your hands", Officer Mark Hanneman is seen opening fire three times at him.

"Approximately 9 seconds into the entry, officers encountered a male who was armed with a handgun pointed in the direction of officers," Minneapolis police said in a statement, alongside photographs of a gun they say they recovered at the scene. The footage also shows Locke, who was partially under a blanket at the time of the raid, holding what appears to be a handgun.

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/amir-locke-shooting-minneapolis-police-bodycam-footage


This one is going to be messy because the officers followed procedure (as currently established), had a warrant, and didn't shoot the guy until they saw a weapon. The other issue he is had a permit for the gun, so not a criminal, and it was a no knock raid, but they did announce themselves after opening the door.

That said, with Keith Ellison now involved, and serial grifter Ben Crump there within hours, we all know nothing good will come from this. The only question is how bad it will be?

In my non-legal opinion, it should be a civil case, not a criminal one; but with Ellison involved, good chance he slaps the officers with murder charges.

Good thing it is the middle of winter which will help keep the fools from burning down their city again, at least for a while.

And on no knock raids, they should be the very rare exception, not the norm. Require approval from two judges and the sheriff/chief before it is executed. Fine when going against a known, heavily armed suspect with a violent history and confirmed to be at the location in question, when it is a hostage situation, or if you're going after someone like a drug cartel leader or a bin Laden level terrorist.

If only it wasn't so cold, they could have some dandy riots.

48 hour rule.
Was he the suspect in question?
Did he have a legal right to own the gun, I.e. not a felon.
Was it the wrong house?
Did he decide after hearing cops say search warrant to point the gun instead of keeping his hands up?

Police seem to have followed protocol, this guy pointed a gun at police knowing they were police.

Bye Felicia

So, they basically break into this dude's house and since he isn't expecting a break in, he's legally armed? Is that the basic gyst?

Expect another check written to the family.

IN BEFORE THEY DINDU NUFFIN

Yawn

Gun Permit does not equal "not a criminal", just not a known criminal. A pretty quick way to obtain "criminal status" is pointing a gun at officers in a heated situation such as a raid.

I agree with the comments regarding no knock raids, they should be used sparingly.

Ellison will have a tough time with this. I'm jaded enough to believe he will grudgingly admit the shooting was "within the bounds of the law", but then urge change in the law so he doesn't have to pass up the chance to prosecute Minnesota cops.

I had to spend some minutes trying to figure out how the family of Locke died at the hospital and then held a press conference.

Agreed with no knock raids, too many instances of the wrong house etc. If someone were to no knock my house I'd likely be shot because there is no expectation that police would bust my door down at 3am. Shouting police does not mean **** in that moment.

What was the reason for conducting a no-knock raid?

I might be looking at this wrong but it sounds like he was defending himself from an overstepping govt

This is a lot different than multifelon od'ing on fentanyl or punk attacking his own children, or resisting arrest while behind the wheel of a vehicle in drive….

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Nekima Levy Armstrong, a civil rights attorney and prominent community activist, whom Mayor Jacob Frey appointed last year as co-chair on a community safety work group, said Locke's family told her Locke was a licensed gun owner with a concealed carry permit, that he didn't live in the apartment, that police had not been looking for him and that he wasn't one of three suspects named in the warrant.

Interim Police Chief Amelia Huffman said in a news conference after the video was released that Locke isn't named in the warrants. She said it isn't clear how or whether Locke is connected to the homicide investigation, which she said is under the control of the St. Paul Police Department. That agency has released few details so far and the warrants weren't publicly available Thursday.

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Ugh. That's not good.

They love love love them no-knock raids.

Rustys-Beef-o-Reeno said:

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48 hour rule.
Was he the suspect in question?
Did he have a legal right to own the gun, I.e. not a felon.
Was it the wrong house?
Did he decide after hearing cops say search warrant to point the gun instead of keeping his hands up?

Police seem to have followed protocol, this guy pointed a gun at police knowing they were police.

Bye Felicia

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As the article said

Was he the suspect in question?- No, the three they were looking for were not there.
Did he have a legal right to own the gun?- He had a permit, so yes. (According to the family)
Was it the wrong house?- Right location, but he wasn't on the warrant

I don't understand why they can't just wait until the guy leaves the house, then arrest him?

No knock search warrants are unnecessary.

Rapier108 said:

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Rustys-Beef-o-Reeno said:

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48 hour rule.
Was he the suspect in question?
Did he have a legal right to own the gun, I.e. not a felon.
Was it the wrong house?
Did he decide after hearing cops say search warrant to point the gun instead of keeping his hands up?

Police seem to have followed protocol, this guy pointed a gun at police knowing they were police.

Bye Felicia

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As the article said

Was he the suspect in question?- No, the three they were looking for were not there.
Did he have a legal right to own the gun?- He had a permit, so yes. (According to the family)
Was it the wrong house?- Right location, but he wasn't on the warrant

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So, they "legally" broke into this man's house and executed him when he, being woken up abruptly by said break-in, tried to defend himself.

BigRobSA said:

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So, they basically break into this dude's house and since he isn't expecting a break in, he's legally armed? Is that the basic gyst?

Expect another check written to the family.

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He didn't live there.

What bad luck. I wonder why he was staying there that night if he didn't live there. Tragic.

Rapier108 said:

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BigRobSA said:

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So, they basically break into this dude's house and since he isn't expecting a break in, he's legally armed? Is that the basic gyst?

Expect another check written to the family.

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He didn't live there.

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Ahhhh..ok. Still, no knocks should be stopped. Just arrest them outside when leaving the premises.

bmks270 said:

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I don't understand why they can't just wait until the guy leaves the house, then arrest him?

No knock search warrants are unnecessary.

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No knocks are 100% wrong - they are what you would see in China or Russia. I conclude they are wrong because if I heard yelling and screaming outside my door and then a break-in I would likely be shot before I could figure out what is going on. Innocent people die.

BigRobSA said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Rustys-Beef-o-Reeno said:

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48 hour rule.
Was he the suspect in question?
Did he have a legal right to own the gun, I.e. not a felon.
Was it the wrong house?
Did he decide after hearing cops say search warrant to point the gun instead of keeping his hands up?

Police seem to have followed protocol, this guy pointed a gun at police knowing they were police.

Bye Felicia

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As the article said

Was he the suspect in question?- No, the three they were looking for were not there.
Did he have a legal right to own the gun?- He had a permit, so yes. (According to the family)
Was it the wrong house?- Right location, but he wasn't on the warrant

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So, they "legally" broke into this man's house and executed him when he, being woken up abruptly by said break-in, tried to defend himself.

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We don't know that yet. If police were legally there and met the ROE/Use of Force written policy standards, it is likely a "good shoot" . If Crump gets involved, there's usually some money to be sucked out of the city.

Very curious situation. If it wasn't his place then what was he doing there? I'm not going to feel bad for someone meeting their dealer. But if he was bringing a cup of sugar to help someone finish their oatmeal cookie recipe I'm going to be way more sympathetic.

But first blush when you have some random people in a place being raided... They're involved. So I'm kinda expecting it to shake out that way.

BigRobSA said:

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Rapier108 said:

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BigRobSA said:

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So, they basically break into this dude's house and since he isn't expecting a break in, he's legally armed? Is that the basic gyst?

Expect another check written to the family.

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He didn't live there.

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Ahhhh..ok. Still, no knocks should be stopped. Just arrest them outside when leaving the premises.

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This would require more work though... and they may flush drugs down the toilet so ya know, the chance of being shot in fear of drugs getting flushed is like 100% justified.

"black" is an adjective, not a noun, so please stop capitalizing it.

I'm 100% pro cop but if someone bangs on my door at 3 in the morning, someone is getting shot.

Saw the video. The cops entered with a key at around 0645. They had both a knock and no-knock warrant. As soon as they breached, weapon lights lit up the room. They all screamed "Police! Search Warrant!", among other commands like to get on the ground. They kicked a sectional couch where a dude was covered in a blanket, possibly sleeping. He sat up, grabbed a very visible pistol off of the coffee table/ottoman thing, and they lit him up with three shots.

Now, the usual suspects have been clamoring that the decedent wasn't even on the warrant, and that he was likely confused by their commands. Not sure I've ever heard the new policy out there where police have to have a warrant to ventilate someone that goes for a weapon after you've made your presence known.

So....
Not on warrant = Irrelevant
Carry permit holder = Irrelevant
Early morning confusion = Irrelevant
Reach for gun when in a room full of cops that have made themselves and their mission known = Play stupid games

I'm sorry he lost his life, but he made his choice.

https://www.kbtx.com/2022/02/04/graphic-video-shows-minneapolis-man-shot-during-no-knock-warrant/

bmks270 said:

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I don't understand why they can't just wait until the guy leaves the house, then arrest him?

No knock search warrants are unnecessary.

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In the vast majority of cases, yes I agree. If the the suspect is known to be armed, violent and/or mentally disturbed containing the arrest to a building or room may be warranted to prevent civilians injured or killed.

Like any rules or procedures they can and often go wrong. In this Case the police should have known beyond any reasonable doubt that some if not all suspects were in the house, but that takes time and surveillance and many police departments are lazy and inept.

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BigRobSA said:

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Rapier108 said:

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BigRobSA said:

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So, they basically break into this dude's house and since he isn't expecting a break in, he's legally armed? Is that the basic gyst?

Expect another check written to the family.

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He didn't live there.

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Ahhhh..ok. Still, no knocks should be stopped. Just arrest them outside when leaving the premises.

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This would require more work though... and they may flush drugs down the toilet so ya know, the chance of being shot in fear of drugs getting flushed is like 100% justified.

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If you need the drugs in the house to convict the guy - then is there enough evidence for a no-knock warrant to begin with?

Demosthenes81 said:

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I had to spend some minutes trying to figure out how the family of Locke died at the hospital and then held a press conference.

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They got a hold of Miss Cleo's replacement. For all we know Miss Cleo could've helped out too since she died a few years ago.

BigRobSA said:

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So, they basically break into this dude's house and since he isn't expecting a break in, he's legally armed? Is that the basic gyst?

Expect another check written to the family.

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Why were they going in the first place? Was the guy a drug dealer?

Old Sarge said:

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Gun Permit does not equal "not a criminal", just not a known criminal. A pretty quick way to obtain "criminal status" is pointing a gun at officers in a heated situation such as a raid.

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Also a quick way to obtain "room temperature status"

Love Gun said:

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Saw the video. The cops entered with a key at around 0645. They had both a knock and no-knock warrant. As soon as they breached, weapon lights lit up the room. They all screamed "Police! Search Warrant!", among other commands like to get on the ground. They kicked a sectional couch where a dude was covered in a blanket, possibly sleeping. He sat up, grabbed a very visible pistol off of the coffee table/ottoman thing, and they lit him up with three shots.

Now, the usual suspects have been clamoring that the decedent wasn't even on the warrant, and that he was likely confused by their commands. Not sure I've ever heard the new policy out there where police have to have a warrant to ventilate someone that goes for a weapon after you've made your presence known.

So....
Not on warrant = Irrelevant
Carry permit holder = Irrelevant
Early morning confusion = Irrelevant
Reach for gun when in a room full of cops that have made themselves and their mission known = Play stupid games

I'm sorry he lost his life, but he made his choice.

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He was disoriented and ambushed by a swat team. He didn't make any choices. He had an unconscious reflex to the environmental stimulus. None of it was consciously processed.

There should be penalties for the people issuing and organizing these warrants when an innocent person is murdered. They should at a minimum be fired.

bmks270 said:

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Love Gun said:

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Saw the video. The cops entered with a key at around 0645. They had both a knock and no-knock warrant. As soon as they breached, weapon lights lit up the room. They all screamed "Police! Search Warrant!", among other commands like to get on the ground. They kicked a sectional couch where a dude was covered in a blanket, possibly sleeping. He sat up, grabbed a very visible pistol off of the coffee table/ottoman thing, and they lit him up with three shots.

Now, the usual suspects have been clamoring that the decedent wasn't even on the warrant, and that he was likely confused by their commands. Not sure I've ever heard the new policy out there where police have to have a warrant to ventilate someone that goes for a weapon after you've made your presence known.

So....
Not on warrant = Irrelevant
Carry permit holder = Irrelevant
Early morning confusion = Irrelevant
Reach for gun when in a room full of cops that have made themselves and their mission known = Play stupid games

I'm sorry he lost his life, but he made his choice.

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He was disoriented and ambushed by a swat team. He didn't make any choices. He had an unconscious reflex to the environmental stimulus. None of it was consciously processed.

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Cool. Email that to the Soros bought DA up there. I'm sure they would appreciate your psychological analysis to convict officers that did nothing wrong.

Also, I carry a weapon all the time. When my hand is on that weapon, at no point have I ever done so as an "unconscious reflex to the environmental stimulus", whatever the hell that is. Picking up a weapon isn't instinctive.

TAMU1990 said:

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BigRobSA said:

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So, they basically break into this dude's house and since he isn't expecting a break in, he's legally armed? Is that the basic gyst?

Expect another check written to the family.

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Why were they going in the first place? Was the guy a drug dealer?

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Search warrant pursuant to a homicide case.