For homeowners without a mortgage, January is that annual reminder

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YOU ONLY RENT YOUR HOME from the county, schools district, etc…….

I also paid all the ranch taxes for my grifter dad. He had senior citizen and various VA/veteran's discounts (WW2, Korea, 2 tours of 'Nam). That's coming to a screeching halt next year. He shouldn't have been allowed to even vote according to a couple of posters.

Texas needs a tax overhaul. VAT or sales tax to replace property taxes.
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Marcus Brutus
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Agree. I thought the same thing Tuesday when I walked in and wrote the check.
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Protesting taxes is like playing the texas lotto and should always be rewarding!
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B-1 83 said:

YOU ONLY RENT YOUR HOME from the county, schools district, etc…….

I also paid all the ranch taxes for my grifter dad. He had senior citizen and various VA/veteran's discounts (WW2, Korea, 2 tours of 'Nam). That's coming to a screeching halt next year. He shouldn't have been allowed to even vote according to a couple of posters.

Texas needs a tax overhaul. VAT or sales tax to replace property taxes.


Why shouldn't your dad be allowed to vote?
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Chips2003 said:

B-1 83 said:

YOU ONLY RENT YOUR HOME from the county, schools district, etc…….

I also paid all the ranch taxes for my grifter dad. He had senior citizen and various VA/veteran's discounts (WW2, Korea, 2 tours of 'Nam). That's coming to a screeching halt next year. He shouldn't have been allowed to even vote according to a couple of posters.

Texas needs a tax overhaul. VAT or sales tax to replace property taxes.


Why shouldn't your dad be allowed to vote?
According to one particular poster, his "frozen" taxes should disqualify him.

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Taxation is theft.
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B-1 83 said:

YOU ONLY RENT YOUR HOME from the county, schools district, etc…….


I love Texas, but absolutely hate this. I especially hate it for the retired population, but it's too punitive for everyone.
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Taxes that increase with fluctuating "market-based" property appraisals carried out by the taxing entity, instead of by vote by representatives, are undemocratic. Especially when they're (after income taxes) the largest tax most taxpayers pay. We aren't talking adding half a penny to sales tax when a housing market gets hot.
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Oh and FPT
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Jason C. said:

Taxes that increase with fluctuating "market-based" property appraisals carried out by the taxing entity, instead of by vote by representatives, are undemocratic. Especially when they're (after income taxes) the largest tax most taxpayers pay. We aren't talking adding half a penny to sales tax when a housing market gets hot.


Yep. I love going to protest my taxable value and being asked "what information can I provide to show my home is not worth what the county says it's worth."

Bull****
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The full quote was:

Quote:

The right to vote should be stripped of all felons, and those who do not pay into not contribute to the entity that is the subject of an election.

Same for property taxes. It's not a perfect system, but it's what we use. That said if you're somehow exempt or yours are frozen, you cease voting in elections that determine how their spent/allocated or raised.
There is a valid argument that only people who pay taxes and/or own real property should be allowed to vote. The rationale being, those with an invested stake in the state who pay it's finances via taxation, are the ones who are most interested in the management of the government, and taxation rates/policies.

I am not sure why your grifter father's exemptions are expiring, but it sounds like you, and perhaps he as well, are quite interested in changing the government's tax policies, and I would support your continued rights to vote, though I think we should be making voting much harder for a lot of people. I am not sure what the right answer to property tax reform really is, but I don't think Texans are going to get rid of it, anytime soon. Ultimately, 'the king will always get his share.'
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Just under $19k this year for the absolute PRIVILEGE of living in this God forsaken liberal hell hole, Travis County.
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nortex97 said:

The full quote was:

Quote:

The right to vote should be stripped of all felons, and those who do not pay into not contribute to the entity that is the subject of an election.

Same for property taxes. It's not a perfect system, but it's what we use. That said if you're somehow exempt or yours are frozen, you cease voting in elections that determine how their spent/allocated or raised.
There is a valid argument that only people who pay taxes and/or own real property should be allowed to vote. The rationale being, those with an invested stake in the state who pay it's finances via taxation, are the ones who are most interested in the management of the government, and taxation rates/policies.

I am not sure why your grifter father's exemptions are expiring, but it sounds like you, and perhaps he as well, are quite interested in changing the government's tax policies, and I would support your continued rights to vote, though I think we should be making voting much harder for a lot of people. I am not sure what the right answer to property tax reform really is, but I don't think Texans are going to get rid of it, anytime soon. Ultimately, 'the king will always get his share.'


This is absolutely true. Imagine a group of ten friends. Only four of them have any money but have decided to pay for all ten people to eat. Why in the absolute f should the six degenerates have any say in the free meal they are about to receive?
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Flat tax for everyone regardless of how much property they own.
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AgGrad99 said:

B-1 83 said:

YOU ONLY RENT YOUR HOME from the county, schools district, etc…….


I love Texas, but absolutely hate this. I especially hate it for the retired population, but it's too punitive for everyone.
You do know that at 65 you can defer payment of all your ad valorem taxes, right?
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2
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Jason C. said:

Taxes that increase with fluctuating "market-based" property appraisals carried out by the taxing entity, instead of by vote by representatives, are undemocratic. Especially when they're (after income taxes) the largest tax most taxpayers pay. We aren't talking adding half a penny to sales tax when a housing market gets hot.
You do realize that the taxing entities have nothing to do with appraisals, right?
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2
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Yes, let's privatize all schools including universities.
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Martin Cash said:

AgGrad99 said:

B-1 83 said:

YOU ONLY RENT YOUR HOME from the county, schools district, etc…….


I love Texas, but absolutely hate this. I especially hate it for the retired population, but it's too punitive for everyone.
You do know that at 65 you can defer payment of all your ad valorem taxes, right?


Yes, but the taxes, penalties and interest still accrue while you're deferring so that by the time an estate inherits the property, all of the unpaid taxes have eaten up all the equity in the property leaving nothing for the beneficiaries. But I agree that it is a way for the elderly to avoid a tax foreclosure while living.
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Taxes arent going anywhere but up.

It took forever just to get rid of those stupid red light cameras. Good luck with getting taxes altered in our favor.
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DrEvazanPhD said:

Jason C. said:

Taxes that increase with fluctuating "market-based" property appraisals carried out by the taxing entity, instead of by vote by representatives, are undemocratic. Especially when they're (after income taxes) the largest tax most taxpayers pay. We aren't talking adding half a penny to sales tax when a housing market gets hot.


Yep. I love going to protest my taxable value and being asked "what information can I provide to show my home is not worth what the county says it's worth."

Bull****
This, any appraisal is just at best an educated guess until the property actually sells. While I abhor property taxes and their destruction of the idea of private property ownership, I understand my hope/dream of seeing them removed is optimistic at best. I would settle for the taxable value of property only changing when it is sold. Then the value is set at the sales price and doesn't change again until it is sold again. Then at least you know for sure what your ownership costs are going to be when you buy a place.
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nortex97 said:

The full quote was:

Quote:

The right to vote should be stripped of all felons, and those who do not pay into not contribute to the entity that is the subject of an election.

Same for property taxes. It's not a perfect system, but it's what we use. That said if you're somehow exempt or yours are frozen, you cease voting in elections that determine how their spent/allocated or raised.
There is a valid argument that only people who pay taxes and/or own real property should be allowed to vote. The rationale being, those with an invested stake in the state who pay it's finances via taxation, are the ones who are most interested in the management of the government, and taxation rates/policies.

I am not sure why your grifter father's exemptions are expiring, but it sounds like you, and perhaps he as well, are quite interested in changing the government's tax policies, and I would support your continued rights to vote, though I think we should be making voting much harder for a lot of people. I am not sure what the right answer to property tax reform really is, but I don't think Texans are going to get rid of it, anytime soon. Ultimately, 'the king will always get his share.'
1. I know of nobody who pays no taxes. There is nearly $.40 a gallon on gasoline, sales tax, taxes on cable TV, taxes on your phone….. "If you stand too long, I'll tax your feet…….'cuz I'm the tax man…"
2. Dad died. His exemptions died with him, as they should.
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B-1 83 said:

YOU ONLY RENT YOUR HOME from the county, schools district, etc…….

I also paid all the ranch taxes for my grifter dad. He had senior citizen and various VA/veteran's discounts (WW2, Korea, 2 tours of 'Nam). That's coming to a screeching halt next year. He shouldn't have been allowed to even vote according to a couple of posters.

Texas needs a tax overhaul. VAT or sales tax to replace property taxes.
I'm all about switching to a sales/consumption tax, not so much a VAT. Hell, I'd support a national sales tax to replace income tax. Of course, with a consumption tax likely comes a luxury tax, you know, gotta make sure the "rich" pay their fair share.
Government does not collect taxes in order to provide services; it provides services as an excuse to collect taxes.
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B-1 83 said:

nortex97 said:

The full quote was:

Quote:

The right to vote should be stripped of all felons, and those who do not pay into not contribute to the entity that is the subject of an election.

Same for property taxes. It's not a perfect system, but it's what we use. That said if you're somehow exempt or yours are frozen, you cease voting in elections that determine how their spent/allocated or raised.
There is a valid argument that only people who pay taxes and/or own real property should be allowed to vote. The rationale being, those with an invested stake in the state who pay it's finances via taxation, are the ones who are most interested in the management of the government, and taxation rates/policies.

I am not sure why your grifter father's exemptions are expiring, but it sounds like you, and perhaps he as well, are quite interested in changing the government's tax policies, and I would support your continued rights to vote, though I think we should be making voting much harder for a lot of people. I am not sure what the right answer to property tax reform really is, but I don't think Texans are going to get rid of it, anytime soon. Ultimately, 'the king will always get his share.'
1. I know of nobody who pays no taxes. There is nearly $.40 a gallon on gasoline, sales tax, taxes on cable TV, taxes on your phone….. "If you stand too long, I'll tax your feet…….'cuz I'm the tax man…"
2. Dad died. His exemptions died with him, as they should.
Nice Beatles reference. At the time they wrote Taxman, the top tax rate in the UK was 92%. Sorry to hear about your dad.
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The most equitable way to tax is a state income tax but that is a non starter for the state GOP.
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Hungry Ojos said:

Martin Cash said:

AgGrad99 said:

B-1 83 said:

YOU ONLY RENT YOUR HOME from the county, schools district, etc…….


I love Texas, but absolutely hate this. I especially hate it for the retired population, but it's too punitive for everyone.
You do know that at 65 you can defer payment of all your ad valorem taxes, right?


Yes, but the taxes, penalties and interest still accrue while you're deferring so that by the time an estate inherits the property, all of the unpaid taxes have eaten up all the equity in the property leaving nothing for the beneficiaries. But I agree that it is a way for the elderly to avoid a tax foreclosure while living.
Correct, but I'm pretty sure it's interest only, not penalties. They are payable at death, sale of the property or when you move. It's for people who are in desperate need of that money. If you take advantage of it, you should definitely tell your kids what you are doing, so they are surprised when you croak.
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2
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BobaFettsClone said:

B-1 83 said:

YOU ONLY RENT YOUR HOME from the county, schools district, etc…….

I also paid all the ranch taxes for my grifter dad. He had senior citizen and various VA/veteran's discounts (WW2, Korea, 2 tours of 'Nam). That's coming to a screeching halt next year. He shouldn't have been allowed to even vote according to a couple of posters.

Texas needs a tax overhaul. VAT or sales tax to replace property taxes.
I'm all about switching to a sales/consumption tax, not so much a VAT. Hell, I'd support a national sales tax to replace income tax. Of course, with a consumption tax likely comes a luxury tax, you know, gotta make sure the "rich" pay their fair share.
They "consume" more to make up for it, as a general rule.
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Martin Cash said:

AgGrad99 said:

B-1 83 said:

YOU ONLY RENT YOUR HOME from the county, schools district, etc…….
I love Texas, but absolutely hate this. I especially hate it for the retired population, but it's too punitive for everyone.
You do know that at 65 you can defer payment of all your ad valorem taxes, right?
Yes. But this just becomes an inheritance tax, by another name.

It's a means to prevent a retired person from becoming homeless, but it strips them of equity they worked so hard to accrue.
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Husky Boy Jr. said:

The most equitable way to tax is a state income tax but that is a non starter for the state GOP Constitution.
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Husky Boy Jr. said:

The most equitable way to tax is a state income tax but that is a non starter for the state GOP.
Nah. Georgia here. Still have to pay property tax.

More tax, more spend, wash, rinse, repeat.
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Police, fire protection, courts, and other city and county services have to be paid some way or another. Property taxes are a fair way doing that. If you want to minimize property taxes, go find a a chunk of unincorporated land away from everything and live there.
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I don't mind the property tax system, but it should be based on your purchase price not a annual valuation.

As long as you don't add to or change the use of the property, the valuation should not change.
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96ags said:

I don't mind the property tax system, but it should be based on your purchase price not a annual valuation.

As long as you don't add to or change the use of the property, the valuation should not change.


That makes a lot of sense. Plus I would avoid dealing with the mouth breathers at the appraisal district.
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Bubblez said:

Police, fire protection, courts, and other city and county services have to be paid some way or another. Property taxes are a fair way doing that. If you want to minimize property taxes, go find a a chunk of unincorporated land away from everything and live there.
That's not how it works……that's not how it works, at all. My ranch is miles from incorporated areas.
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Husky Boy Jr. said:

96ags said:

I don't mind the property tax system, but it should be based on your purchase price not a annual valuation.

As long as you don't add to or change the use of the property, the valuation should not change.


That makes a lot of sense. Plus I would avoid dealing with the mouth breathers at the appraisal district.
It would also hold taxing entities accountable for increasing taxes. As it is currently, they can hide behind the appraisal district and vice versa.
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B-1 83 said:

YOU ONLY RENT YOUR HOME from the county, schools district, etc…….

I also paid all the ranch taxes for my grifter dad. He had senior citizen and various VA/veteran's discounts (WW2, Korea, 2 tours of 'Nam). That's coming to a screeching halt next year. He shouldn't have been allowed to even vote according to a couple of posters.

Texas needs a tax overhaul. VAT or sales tax to replace property taxes.
You libs and CM's (sorry, this is what you sounds like right now) love to say this, but you know good and well we are talking about the people who were never in the military who just sit on their ass and collect an unearned check from the government. People who contribute absolutely nothing to society and are instead net drains and vote themselves more and more entitlements. If you were in the city, your property taxes would be going towards funding their childrens' education while they pay negative and milk the system.

Genuinely sorry you lost your pops, he sounds like a badass. I'd love to inherit a ranch...but there's a good chance I'd have to sell if the property taxes were unmanageable.

Agree with you 100% on overhauling taxes. It's ludicrous and infuriating. Not a single person here, if they are in TX, owns their home. I repeat, none of us are homeowners.
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