That's a fugly attitude to have.TXAGFAN said:C) None of the above.No Spin Ag said:
Which would conservatives be more welcoming to in their communities: Muslims who are 3rd generation and act and live in all ways as conservatives, they just pray to a different god, or liberals who go to a Christian/Catholic church?
The Catholic church is a Christian church, in fact the Catholic (now Roman/Orthodox/Armenian) was the first Christian church.TXAGFAN said:C) None of the above.No Spin Ag said:
Which would conservatives be more welcoming to in their communities: Muslims who are 3rd generation and act and live in all ways as conservatives, they just pray to a different god, or liberals who go to a Christian/Catholic church?
Lots of people think that Allah is the Moon god, therefore, not the Christian God.doubledog said:
FYI Muslims pray to the same God as Christians.
Conservatives generally are very welcoming to anyone as long as they are law-abiding, hard-working, support the community, and don't shove their views down everyone's throats.No Spin Ag said:
Which would conservatives be more welcoming to in their communities: Muslims who are 3rd generation and act and live in all ways as conservatives, they just pray to a different god, or liberals who go to a Christian/Catholic church?
doubledog said:The Catholic church is a Christian church, in fact the Catholic (now Roman/Orthodox/Armenian) was the first Christian church.TXAGFAN said:C) None of the above.No Spin Ag said:
Which would conservatives be more welcoming to in their communities: Muslims who are 3rd generation and act and live in all ways as conservatives, they just pray to a different god, or liberals who go to a Christian/Catholic church?
FYI Muslims pray to the same God as Christians.
doubledog said:
FYI Muslims pray to the same God as Christians.
"Christian/Catholic" church? Wtf?No Spin Ag said:
Which would conservatives be more welcoming to in their communities: Muslims who are 3rd generation and act and live in all ways as conservatives, they just pray to a different god, or liberals who go to a Christian/Catholic church?
TXAGFAN said:C) None of the above.No Spin Ag said:
Which would conservatives be more welcoming to in their communities: Muslims who are 3rd generation and act and live in all ways as conservatives, they just pray to a different god, or liberals who go to a Christian/Catholic church?
Edit: This isn't what I would do, this is what I think Conservatives do.
you better hope Muslims dont' take over would not be good for your ilk.TXAGFAN said:C) None of the above.No Spin Ag said:
Which would conservatives be more welcoming to in their communities: Muslims who are 3rd generation and act and live in all ways as conservatives, they just pray to a different god, or liberals who go to a Christian/Catholic church?
Edit: This isn't what I would do, this is what I think Conservatives do.
I see what you did thereDrEvazanPhD said:TXAGFAN said:C) None of the above.No Spin Ag said:
Which would conservatives be more welcoming to in their communities: Muslims who are 3rd generation and act and live in all ways as conservatives, they just pray to a different god, or liberals who go to a Christian/Catholic church?
You're a dick.
I'll take the Muslim family any day.
Muslims do believe that Jesus was a great man and he does have a role in their version of the end times.Mr. AGSPRT04 said:doubledog said:
FYI Muslims pray to the same God as Christians.
Muslims pray to the God of the trinity, three in one? That's news to me.
The English translation of the adhan is:Quote:
Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!
Ashhadu an la ilaha illa Allah. Ashhadu an la ilaha illa Allah.
Ashadu anna Muhammadan Rasool Allah. Ashadu anna Muhammadan Rasool Allah.
Hayya 'ala-s-Salah. Hayya 'ala-s-Salah.
Hayya 'ala-l-Falah. Hayya 'ala-l-Falah.
Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!
La ilaha illa Allah.
The prayer calls do differ across the Middle East. When I was in Cairo, the prayer call sounded quite a bit different than what I was used to at home in the Eastern Province of Saudi Arabia.Quote:
God is Great! God is Great! God is Great! God is Great!
I bear witness that there is no god except the One God.
I bear witness that there is no god except the One God.
I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of God.
I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of God.
Hurry to the prayer. Hurry to the prayer.
Hurry to salvation. Hurry to salvation.
God is Great! God is Great!
There is no god except the One God.
Quote:
In Christianity, the doctrine of the Trinity states that God is a single being who exists, simultaneously and eternally, as a communion of three distinct persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. In any event, such a concept of plurality within God is considered a denial of monotheism and foreign to the revelation found in Muslim scripture. Shirk, the act of ascribing partners to God whether they be sons, daughters, or other partners is considered to be a form of unbelief in Islam. The Quran repeatedly and firmly asserts God's absolute oneness, thus ruling out the possibility of another being sharing his sovereignty or nature.[1] In Islam, the Holy Spirit is believed to be the Angel Gabriel.[2] There has been little doubt that Muslims have explicitly rejected Christian doctrines of the Trinity from an early date.
No Spin Ag said:
Which would conservatives be more welcoming to in their communities: Muslims who are 3rd generation and act and live in all ways as conservatives, they just pray to a different god, or liberals who go to a Christian/Catholic church?
TXAGFAN said:C) None of the above.No Spin Ag said:
Which would conservatives be more welcoming to in their communities: Muslims who are 3rd generation and act and live in all ways as conservatives, they just pray to a different god, or liberals who go to a Christian/Catholic church?
Edit: This isn't what I would do, this is what I think Conservatives do.
AggieDruggist89 said:
Islam and Judaism split occurred with Abraham's sons Issac and Ishmael.
CanyonAg77 said:AggieDruggist89 said:
Islam and Judaism split occurred with Abraham's sons Issac and Ishmael.
No, not by 1000s of years
"Christianity and Catholicism?" Wtf?AggieDruggist89 said:
Mmmm
Y'all do know the God worshipped in Islam, Judaism and Christianity is the same God right??? With Christianity and catholicism that are more perplexing to worship.
Islam and Judaism split occurred with Abraham's sons Issac and Ishmael.
No Spin Ag said:
Which would conservatives be more welcoming to in their communities: Muslims who are 3rd generation and act and live in all ways as conservatives, they just pray to a different god, or liberals who go to a Christian/Catholic church?
AggieDruggist89 said:
Mmmm
Y'all do know the God worshipped in Islam, Judaism and Christianity is the same God right??? With Christianity and catholicism that are more perplexing to worship.
Islam and Judaism split occurred with Abraham's sons Issac and Ishmael.
doubledog said:The Catholic church is a Christian church, in fact the Catholic (now Roman/Orthodox/Armenian) was the first Christian church.TXAGFAN said:C) None of the above.No Spin Ag said:
Which would conservatives be more welcoming to in their communities: Muslims who are 3rd generation and act and live in all ways as conservatives, they just pray to a different god, or liberals who go to a Christian/Catholic church?
FYI Muslims pray to the same God as Christians.
Its a good thing that no "holy wars" were ever fought by the Christian church. Let's leave all that to the Muslims...? You cannot be serious with such an assessment given the Crusades and many other conflicts started in the name of Christianity.Get Off My Lawn said:
Mohammad wanted to be a warlord so he cobbled together a religion to create his army. He pulled folks in by saying "your religion got some things right, but I've got the rest of the story for ya!" and then gave them zealous purpose. First - when he was attacking as a call to war, second - when he had territory as a call to peace. At all times, integrating the religion with the politics with his aspirations.
So no - they don't follow the same Abrahamic God. They follow the Joseph Smith of the ancient. Him cobbling together segments of familiar teachings to hoodwinked Zoroastrians, Jews, Pagans, & Christians doesn't mean he produced an accurate representation of God - he created a fiction that sound similar.
And due to the nature of their political + religious integration, they are only societally acceptable in small enough proportions that they are forced to integrate with non-muslims and are prevented from gaining power. The slippery slope is necessarily Sharia (along with the oppression of all infidels), so there is no potential for religious tolerance or coexistance once they achieve critical mass.
