TexAgs91 said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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How does a president* with approval ratings as low as his are get to be a dictator?

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The media which skews 90% dem losers carries his colonoscopy bag around for him.

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So the media is our dictator?

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The media is the Nazi propaganda for the DNC. Lies lies and more lies.

Marcus Brutus said:

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Retired FBI Agent said:

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aggiehawg said:

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richardag said:

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Ag CPA said:

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What is the source of the "rumor"? This would be all over the news by now.

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Jim Cramer?

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Fauci.

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Link? I have a flight on Tuesday night. Hopefully not effective immediately.

Why is no one reporting it?

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You boy Biden is a idiot and a tyrant, but his Marxist admin will allow a few days from the announcement until the mandate kicks in. I think you're safe.

FBI is garbage.

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What are you on?

Good to know, that you somehow know, that I'll be allowed a "few days" of travel before this mandate kicks in after announcement of said mandate. Why did they leak this information to you?

Challenger 17 said:

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f*** this dictator! It's about time to take the country back from these authoritarians.

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What are you going to do about it?

Not a damn thing.

Charpie said:

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Ag CPA said:

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What is the source of the "rumor"? This would be all over the news by now.

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You must be new here

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Why must he be new here?

My posts are getting memory-holed.

annie88 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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How does a president* with approval ratings as low as his are get to be a dictator?

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The media which skews 90% dem losers carries his colonoscopy bag around for him.

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So the media is our dictator?

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The media is the Nazi propaganda for the DNC. Lies lies and more lies.

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They are the propaganda arm of the establishment (which includes the RNC). ***** McConnel is every bit as corrupt and nancy.

I was about to buy a plane ticket for January. Maybe I should wait a couple days for the prices to drop? I'm vaccinated and have a booster.

kheincho said:

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I was about to buy a plane ticket for January. Maybe I should wait a couple days for the prices to drop? I'm vaccinated and have a booster.

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I'm supposed to fly in January, February, and March. I've held off because I've suspected this was coming all along.

I wonder under what mechanism this could be legal? Interstate commerce clause would seem to disallow the feds from imposing restrictions on travel.

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I wonder under what mechanism this could be legal? Interstate commerce clause would seem to disallow the feds from imposing restrictions on travel.

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Haven't you heard? Once an emergency is declared, the government gets to throw out the constitution and so whatever they want for "public safety." Interestingly enough, they are also the ones who get to declare what is and isn't an emergency.

Retired FBI Agent said:

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Marcus Brutus said:

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Retired FBI Agent said:

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aggiehawg said:

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richardag said:

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Ag CPA said:

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What is the source of the "rumor"? This would be all over the news by now.

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Jim Cramer?

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Fauci.

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Link? I have a flight on Tuesday night. Hopefully not effective immediately.

Why is no one reporting it?

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You boy Biden is a idiot and a tyrant, but his Marxist admin will allow a few days from the announcement until the mandate kicks in. I think you're safe.

FBI is garbage.

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What are you on?

Good to know, that you somehow know, that I'll be allowed a "few days" of travel before this mandate kicks in after announcement of said mandate. Why did they leak this information to you?

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Its not going to be effective immediately. Even you boy Biden is not that stupid. They have to allow time for people to comply. You think he's going to cancel the travel plans of all the people traveling for Christmas who are not vaxxed?

That you would even be concerned that they would make it effective immediately is unbelievable.

Biden and his band of Marxists know this is nothing but theater; there is nothing scientific about this at all. They can wait as long as they think is politically expedient, and they will.

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I wonder under what mechanism this could be legal? Interstate commerce clause would seem to disallow the feds from imposing restrictions on travel.

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Its legal if 2 judges in this country say that it is. Liberal judges don't know what the constitution is.

You may be mixing up things. The commerce clause gives Congress the power to regulate interstate commerce. So if a law was passed that said, for example "persons with certain to make diseases cannot fly on domestic airlines, and the president shall have authority to determine which such diseases apply" then feds have an argument on why they have the authority.

I am not aware of any such law, And I'm pretty confident if that' if it did exist we would've heard about it along time ago

If Biden does try this, my guess is there's some clause about safety in something like the federal aviation act they will rely on.

But will the courts allow that clause to supercede the Privileges and Immunities Clause?

no because 3rd amendment applies

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Get Off My Lawn said:

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The supreme court needs to break convention and shut this all down. Their inability to respond to real time non-reversible dictates is being exploited.

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That can work in both ways. Be cautious on that. SCOTUS cannot issue advisory opinions.

But the Court can issue statements. Not about how they might rule but about past case law and their disinclination to overrule stare decisis, without a particular fact situation that is ripe for actual controversy.

I don't like it at all but too much damage can occur before SCOTUS can act according to their and the appellate rules.

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I'm thinking of a fast-track for non-legislated action. If the executive does something beyond the scope of their branch (or fails to that which is directed) then I'd be fine with the court stepping outside of their construct to issue an appeal to demonstrate jurisdiction.

Here's how I see it playing out:
A. Brandon says they've got a spray vaccine and signs an order to release it immediately.
B. Nobody can show material damage until AFTER this act, so the court would normally sit on their hands, but because of the nature of the situation instead convene immediately to issue a restraining order.
C. The admin files against the restraining order and the states or people get a chance to issue their legal argument that said action is out of the scope and jurisdiction of the fed.
D. If the people/states win over the fed, then the unilateral fed action is sunk and they need to get the legislature to pass a law facilitating nation-wide spraying in order to move forward with their plan.

Sure - be careful what you wish for - but these executive orders and oversteps have gotten out of hand.

Get Off My Lawn said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Get Off My Lawn said:

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The supreme court needs to break convention and shut this all down. Their inability to respond to real time non-reversible dictates is being exploited.

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That can work in both ways. Be cautious on that. SCOTUS cannot issue advisory opinions.

But the Court can issue statements. Not about how they might rule but about past case law and their disinclination to overrule stare decisis, without a particular fact situation that is ripe for actual controversy.

I don't like it at all but too much damage can occur before SCOTUS can act according to their and the appellate rules.

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I'm thinking of a fast-track for non-legislated action. If the executive does something beyond the scope of their branch (or fails to that which is directed) then I'd be fine with the court stepping outside of their construct to issue an appeal to demonstrate jurisdiction.

Here's how I see it playing out:
A. Brandon says they've got a spray vaccine and signs an order to release it immediately.
B. Nobody can show material damage until AFTER this act, so the court would normally sit on their hands, but because of the nature of the situation instead convene immediately to issue a restraining order.
C. The admin files against the restraining order and the states or people get a chance to issue their legal argument that said action is out of the scope and jurisdiction of the fed.
D. If the people/states win over the fed, then the unilateral fed action is sunk and they need to get the legislature to pass a law facilitating nation-wide spraying in order to move forward with their plan.

Sure - be careful what you wish for - but these executive orders and oversteps have gotten out of hand.

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Can't take too much exception to such a procedure but it would have to be rooted in legislation, in my view.

I don't need to fly anywhere and can wait this out.

LGM! Let's go Manchin! FJB!

https://media.tenor.com/videos/040361bd5792ba4edc0b05df2423520d/mp4

BMX Bandit said:

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Hang tight. 6th circuit ruling won't be around very long.

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Asking again because it seemed to get overlooked. What gives you confidence about this?

Waffledynamics said:

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BMX Bandit said:

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Hang tight. 6th circuit ruling won't be around very long.

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Asking again because it seemed to get overlooked. What gives you confidence about this?

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Muy said:

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I don't need to fly anywhere and can wait this out.

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I've given up dream trips to Greece and Israel this year because I refused to vaccinated. I've got vacations and family things planned in states that are now going to take me a couple of days to drive to, but it's worth it to me to have bodily autonomy.

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Just keep pissing on the constitution. Wow.

Intestate commerce clause anyone?

Wow. Where exactly does the line get drawn?

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#TEXIT

Sign the TEXIT Petition Online

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Muy said:

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I don't need to fly anywhere and can wait this out.

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I've given up dream trips to Grease and Israel this year because I refused to vaccinated. I've got vacations and family things planned in states that are now going to take me a couple of days to drive to, but it's worth it to me to have bodily autonomy.

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Same here.

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They'll ban interstate travel next. If you get caught outside your home state without your vax card you'll go straight to the concentration camp. Give it 12 months and that's where we will be.

Challenger 17 said:

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f*** this dictator! It's about time to take the country back from these authoritarians.

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A Net Full of Jello said:

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Muy said:

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I've given up dream trips to Grease and Israel this year because I refused to vaccinated. I've got vacations and family things planned in states that are now going to take me a couple of days to drive to, but it's worth it to me to have bodily autonomy.

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Was that trip, "The One that You Want?"

aggiebrad94 said:

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Muy said:

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I've given up dream trips to Grease and Israel this year because I refused to vaccinated. I've got vacations and family things planned in states that are now going to take me a couple of days to drive to, but it's worth it to me to have bodily autonomy.

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Was that trip, "The One that You Want?"

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Wait, this reads like I wrote that.

I hope he Rs stand firm and refuse to bailout the airlines. if Biden wants to kill them, then its on him! NO TAXPAYER MONEY for the Tyrant Dummy

A Net Full of Jello said:

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Muy said:

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I don't need to fly anywhere and can wait this out.

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I've given up dream trips to Grease and Israel this year because I refused to vaccinated. I've got vacations and family things planned in states that are now going to take me a couple of days to drive to, but it's worth it to me to have bodily autonomy.

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Bacon prices have only doubled. Don't give up grease yet!

Ha! Always proofread, especially when you voice text.

Damn. I guess this was a troll after all

It's not a troll. This has been floated by the Biden admin a couple of times but it's hugely unpopular on both sides of the aisle and obviously in the airline industry.

Charpie said:

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Damn. I guess this was a troll after all

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Trolling wasn't the intention here. redcrayon is correct. I'm sure they would love to mandate it for air travel if they could get away with it.

Charpie said:

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Damn. I guess this was a troll after all

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Good grief. Let it go.