First, check your privilege. And once that is done, do no harm if you're competent.

I'm taking defensive driving, and there are some CRT elements in the training. The law is not blind anymore, and neither is medicine. Clown world.

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Certain races also process/metabolize certain drugs differently and are more prone to becoming dependent on certain substances than other groups. Wife learned this at UT Pharmacy School. For instance, black people tend to get a more rewarding response from opiates than other groups. I think it has to do with how their enzymes break drugs down?

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About time! We need way more diversity in medicine. Way too much over-representation of Indian doctors.

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I try my best to find doctors me and my family will be able to relate to. If I see an Indian or Chinese name, they are almost always going to immediately get crossed off the list. Had several experiences where I just didn't even feel like there was a doctor/patient relationship or connection. Americanized doctors only. I am sure there are some exceptions, but I have had two situations where it was like dealing with robots, and the doctors were completely incapable of thinking outside of the box in any way. The type that were just probably great at memorizing things.

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If you read the Boston Review article, it essentially says that colorblind laws and solutions do not work. Thus, the evidence is clear i.e. the outcome is not what we wanted. Meritocracy is a colorblind solution that does not work. Thus, we must enforce color-aware laws and solutions, ie racism, to benefit POCs.


For those who have children who are white, your kids are screwed! This nation is completely screwed up now.

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Half white/half Asian. So I have zero doubt she will be considered fully white for all intents and purposes. If she was half black, she'd be considered fully black and eligible for all of he privilege, benefits and favoritism that comes with it.

Liberals are so stupid and everything they touch turns to sh**. They will almost certainly ruin this once great country.

This racist bulls hit needs to be fought aggressively wherever it appears. It has no scientific foundation and is is purely a political philosophical phenomenon intruding into academic pursuits. It is extremely divisive and damaging to social cohesion, purposefully.

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Now, the minimum standard has been dropped for minorities.

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Many pre-tests at colleges are being phased out too, like the MCAT. I'll let you guess why.

This is an absolute recipe for disaster.

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https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/new-chart-illustrates-graphically-racial-preferences-for-blacks-and-hispanics-being-admitted-to-us-medical-schools/

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Holy crap!!

That is both stunning and frightening.

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I'm taking defensive driving, and there are some CRT elements in the training.

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Please elaborate. I'm always up for a good chuckle.

Leftist want the biggest wake of destruction left behind their pursuits of complete power over everyone.

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Womackster said:

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About time! We need way more diversity in medicine. Way too much over-representation of Indian doctors.

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I try my best to find doctors me and my family will be able to relate to. If I see an Indian or Chinese name, they are almost always going to immediately get crossed off the list. Had several experiences where I just didn't even feel like there was a doctor/patient relationship or connection. Americanized doctors only. I am sure there are some exceptions, but I have had two situations where it was like dealing with robots, and the doctors were completely incapable of thinking outside of the box in any way. The type that were just probably great at memorizing things.

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I just fired my dentists who were Indian and have found someone I can relate to. My long-time female dentist retired and sold her practice to a group of Indians who converted it to a Smiles chain. It's not so much that they are Indian as it is they apparently don't like to actually be there when I have an appointment so you can't related to someone who doesn't show up to work.

I went three times and two of the times I went the dentists were not even at work that day and I only saw the hygienist.

Really bizarre.

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My son is trying to get in. 1 interview last year; no interviews so far this year. Got an 80% on the MCAT, good grades, had a job in college, was in the Corps, Traditions Council, etc. He's the wrong race and sex.

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How about another country? It sucks I know.

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My son is trying to get in. 1 interview last year; no interviews so far this year. Got an 80% on the MCAT, good grades, had a job in college, was in the Corps, Traditions Council, etc. He's the wrong race and sex.

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There are medical schools in the Caribbean that may be worth a look.

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My son is trying to get in. 1 interview last year; no interviews so far this year. Got an 80% on the MCAT, good grades, had a job in college, was in the Corps, Traditions Council, etc. He's the wrong race and sex.

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There are medical schools in the Caribbean that may be worth a look.

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I have a friend who went to school in Mexico, way back in the day. He's done very well for himself.

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I wonder if libs are going out of their way to get treated by black surgeons for the sake of wokeness despite these sort of stats.

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Womackster said:

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About time! We need way more diversity in medicine. Way too much over-representation of Indian doctors.

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I try my best to find doctors me and my family will be able to relate to. If I see an Indian or Chinese name, they are almost always going to immediately get crossed off the list. Had several experiences where I just didn't even feel like there was a doctor/patient relationship or connection. Americanized doctors only. I am sure there are some exceptions, but I have had two situations where it was like dealing with robots, and the doctors were completely incapable of thinking outside of the box in any way. The type that were just probably great at memorizing things.

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Its unfair based on the name itself. Indian doctors who grew up in and went to medical school IN India, I think you're correct about. Its a different pedogeological style. Look for the accent rather than the name.

Indian kids who were born in the US and did all their schooling here, should be no different from any other doctor.

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Boo Weekley said:

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Womackster said:

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About time! We need way more diversity in medicine. Way too much over-representation of Indian doctors.

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I try my best to find doctors me and my family will be able to relate to. If I see an Indian or Chinese name, they are almost always going to immediately get crossed off the list. Had several experiences where I just didn't even feel like there was a doctor/patient relationship or connection. Americanized doctors only. I am sure there are some exceptions, but I have had two situations where it was like dealing with robots, and the doctors were completely incapable of thinking outside of the box in any way. The type that were just probably great at memorizing things.

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I just fired my dentists who were Indian and have found someone I can relate to. My long-time female dentist retired and sold her practice to a group of Indians who converted it to a Smiles chain. It's not so much that they are Indian as it is they apparently don't like to actually be there when I have an appointment so you can't related to someone who doesn't show up to work.

I went three times and two of the times I went the dentists were not even at work that day and I only saw the hygienist.

Really bizarre.

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I had an issue with an Indian dentist being extremely cheap and unethical in benefits submission, and I reported her to my insurance.

On the other hand, after 4 different general practitioners, I finally found a black female who has been outstanding.

Boo Weekley said:

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Womackster said:

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About time! We need way more diversity in medicine. Way too much over-representation of Indian doctors.

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I try my best to find doctors me and my family will be able to relate to. If I see an Indian or Chinese name, they are almost always going to immediately get crossed off the list. Had several experiences where I just didn't even feel like there was a doctor/patient relationship or connection. Americanized doctors only. I am sure there are some exceptions, but I have had two situations where it was like dealing with robots, and the doctors were completely incapable of thinking outside of the box in any way. The type that were just probably great at memorizing things.

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One of the sharpest guys I knew in HS - a big rival in academic contests - is Asian and was valedictorian at a FBISD school. He went to Rice, then Baylor Med, and is the one of the bigger Astros and Texans fans I know. Practices in Houston and has lived in the city his entire life.

Guy is as American as you or me.

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Boo Weekley said:

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Womackster said:

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About time! We need way more diversity in medicine. Way too much over-representation of Indian doctors.

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I try my best to find doctors me and my family will be able to relate to. If I see an Indian or Chinese name, they are almost always going to immediately get crossed off the list. Had several experiences where I just didn't even feel like there was a doctor/patient relationship or connection. Americanized doctors only. I am sure there are some exceptions, but I have had two situations where it was like dealing with robots, and the doctors were completely incapable of thinking outside of the box in any way. The type that were just probably great at memorizing things.

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Its unfair based on the name itself. Indian doctors who grew up in and went to medical school IN India, I think you're correct about. Its a different pedogeological style. Look for the accent rather than the name.

Indian kids who were born in the US and did all their schooling here, should be no different from any other doctor.

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I've been using a Indian (dot) heritage GP since I hit Houston many moons ago. Zero accent, so I am guessing he is either a U.S. citizen, or came when he was young.

He does see too many patients, like many docs, so there isn't a whole lot of banter, but he's done his job satisfactorily over the years.

Now, his administrative staff has sucked balls from day one. Amazing that no matter how many people come and go through that office, they still can't get anything coordinated properly.

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Boo Weekley said:

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Womackster said:

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About time! We need way more diversity in medicine. Way too much over-representation of Indian doctors.

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I try my best to find doctors me and my family will be able to relate to. If I see an Indian or Chinese name, they are almost always going to immediately get crossed off the list. Had several experiences where I just didn't even feel like there was a doctor/patient relationship or connection. Americanized doctors only. I am sure there are some exceptions, but I have had two situations where it was like dealing with robots, and the doctors were completely incapable of thinking outside of the box in any way. The type that were just probably great at memorizing things.

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Its unfair based on the name itself. Indian doctors who grew up in and went to medical school IN India, I think you're correct about. Its a different pedogeological style. Look for the accent rather than the name.

Indian kids who were born in the US and did all their schooling here, should be no different from any other doctor.

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I agree to a large extent, but often times, with asians/indians, they aren't able to shed the old cultural influences within one generation.

Try selling a home or car or anything of value to an Indian couple (the parents in the above hypothetical case). They are ruthless. Even if they are worth $10+ Million, they will dress poor, lie to your face, treat you like crap, whatever it takes to get the deal and save a few hundred bucks on an $80-100k car, or a few thousand on an $800k-$1MM home, and then celebrate in your face as you get little to no commission...after they take up hours or even days of your time, when you could have been working with a non-Indian couple that wouldn't treat you like sh** and act like they were royalty.

I have family members/friends in both lines of work and they will be very careful in deciding if they will deal with an Indian couple. It has to be a cultural thing. I bet they are horrendous tippers too.

Usually, the first generation Americanized offspring tend to be better, but not always. I have a friend who will not do business with any Indian people who are from there. He is careful in dealing with first gen as well.

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Boo Weekley said:

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Womackster said:

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About time! We need way more diversity in medicine. Way too much over-representation of Indian doctors.

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I try my best to find doctors me and my family will be able to relate to. If I see an Indian or Chinese name, they are almost always going to immediately get crossed off the list. Had several experiences where I just didn't even feel like there was a doctor/patient relationship or connection. Americanized doctors only. I am sure there are some exceptions, but I have had two situations where it was like dealing with robots, and the doctors were completely incapable of thinking outside of the box in any way. The type that were just probably great at memorizing things.

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One of the sharpest guys I knew in HS - a big rival in academic contests - is Asian and was valedictorian at a FBISD school. He went to Rice, then Baylor Med, and is the one of the bigger Astros and Texans fans I know. Practices in Houston and has lived in the city his entire life.

Guy is as American as you or me.

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My wife is Asian (Korean) and American/conservative AF as well. Her parents actually assimilated very well after coming here in the late 70's. Didn't even teach their kids Korean because they were focused on learning English to the fullest extent as quickly as possible. I feel like these types of cases are not the norm for Indian or Chinese people though.

There are always exceptions, but I feel like me and my family have had a disproportionate amt of bad experiences with Indians and Chinese for some reason. And too many just don't tend to be very pleasant to be around.

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This has been going on since at least the early 2000's. They were even offering a pathway to do the standard first 2 years of didactic curriculum over three years for "slower students". I'll give you a guess which bars in the above graph took up the majority of those spots.

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How about that "Defund Hospitals" movement?

Agree with previous poster that stated this has been going on for quite a while. I graduated in 2010 and we had a contingent of "special track" students from a local HBCU that had different entry requirements from the rest of us. Lower GPA and mcat threshold. About half failed out within the first 2 years.

Education in medicine is very student dependent. I actively sought out procedures and did extra work for my upper levels so they'd throw me some opportunities. Some med students just coast through without really internalizing that one day they're going to have to actually do it themselves. You probably don't want those students to be your doctor.