Agree with the above - look at the UNTHSC post-bacc programTAMU1990 said:
My son is trying to get in. 1 interview last year; no interviews so far this year. Got an 80% on the MCAT, good grades, had a job in college, was in the Corps, Traditions Council, etc. He's the wrong race and sex.
I have one friend who got his MD in Mexico and is now an anesthesiologist, and another that went to Grenada and is now a cardiologist. Both doing very well here in the States.CCP Joe Veggie said:Keegan99 said:TAMU1990 said:
My son is trying to get in. 1 interview last year; no interviews so far this year. Got an 80% on the MCAT, good grades, had a job in college, was in the Corps, Traditions Council, etc. He's the wrong race and sex.
There are medical schools in the Caribbean that may be worth a look.
I have a friend who went to school in Mexico, way back in the day. He's done very well for himself.
Sarge 91 said:I have one friend who got his MD in Mexico and is now an anesthesiologist, and another that went to Grenada and is now a cardiologist. Both doing very well here in the States.CCP Joe Veggie said:Keegan99 said:TAMU1990 said:
My son is trying to get in. 1 interview last year; no interviews so far this year. Got an 80% on the MCAT, good grades, had a job in college, was in the Corps, Traditions Council, etc. He's the wrong race and sex.
There are medical schools in the Caribbean that may be worth a look.
I have a friend who went to school in Mexico, way back in the day. He's done very well for himself.
KidDoc said:
What is really sad is when the students that slipped in hit an academic wall after year two and USMLE step 1. Now they are two years older, deeper in debt, and have no marketable skills. Lowering the bar for medical school acceptance is not helping anyone and is harmful to those students.
KidDoc said:
What is really sad is when the students that slipped in hit an academic wall after year two and USMLE step 1. Now they are two years older, deeper in debt, and have no marketable skills. Lowering the bar for medical school acceptance is not helping anyone and is harmful to those students.
Similar for my son with dental school. 99% on DAT, master's degree from UTH health sciences and A&M undergrad. Applied only to TX dental schools the first year, nada. Expanded the net in second year and got a late interview and acceptance at out of state private school. Completing his first semester now... last guy in the door is first in his class so far.TAMU1990 said:
My son is trying to get in. 1 interview last year; no interviews so far this year. Got an 80% on the MCAT, good grades, had a job in college, was in the Corps, Traditions Council, etc. He's the wrong race and sex.
Boo Weekley said:I try my best to find doctors me and my family will be able to relate to. If I see an Indian or Chinese name, they are almost always going to immediately get crossed off the list. Had several experiences where I just didn't even feel like there was a doctor/patient relationship or connection. Americanized doctors only. I am sure there are some exceptions, but I have had two situations where it was like dealing with robots, and the doctors were completely incapable of thinking outside of the box in any way. The type that were just probably great at memorizing things.Womackster said:
About time! We need way more diversity in medicine. Way too much over-representation of Indian doctors.
You don't know how right you are. This is an article from my specialty's journal citing poorer USMLE scores for under represented minorities applying for ENT residencies. This is the second recent article on this topic. The author's suggestion is that, as Part 1 goes to Pass/Fail, residency directors should de-emphasize scores on Part 2 in order to increase gender and racial representation from URM candidates. I am glad that I am more towards the end of my career. I do not profess to know all of the solutions to how to bring up Black and Hispanic performance on standardized tests. I do, however, think that it is wrong to promote someone for training to be a surgeon over someone else because of pigmentation of their skin. It is a disservice to that person as well as to the patients he or she or shim/they will be treating once they have completed their residency.One Louder said:KidDoc said:
What is really sad is when the students that slipped in hit an academic wall after year two and USMLE step 1. Now they are two years older, deeper in debt, and have no marketable skills. Lowering the bar for medical school acceptance is not helping anyone and is harmful to those students.
The USMLE will be dumbed down soon in order to further the agenda.
Keegan99 said:https://t.co/QYVYGc7Toq pic.twitter.com/zqzKtOf1yv
— Amanda (@AmandaLuvsRoses) November 29, 2021Michelle Morse co-wrote this piece in Boston Review:
— Amanda (@AmandaLuvsRoses) November 29, 2021
"Offering preferential care based on race or ethnicity may elicit legal challenges from our system of colorblind law" https://t.co/3uZNe1YCsH https://t.co/Hkswnyetio pic.twitter.com/Qpdp9xly7W
In the future, you may not want a doctor who didn't complete their training prior to 2020. You also, regardless of diplomas, may need to inquire about scores on the SAT, MCAT, etc.
Boo Weekley said:CCP Joe Veggie said:
If you read the Boston Review article, it essentially says that colorblind laws and solutions do not work. Thus, the evidence is clear i.e. the outcome is not what we wanted. Meritocracy is a colorblind solution that does not work. Thus, we must enforce color-aware laws and solutions, ie racism, to benefit POCs.
For those who have children who are white, your kids are screwed! This nation is completely screwed up now.
Half white/half Asian. So I have zero doubt she will be considered fully white for all intents and purposes. If she was half black, she'd be considered fully black and eligible for all of he privilege, benefits and favoritism that comes with it.
Liberals are so stupid and everything they touch turns to sh**. They will almost certainly ruin this once great country.
This might be the most ignorant thing I've ever seen: pic.twitter.com/uHqheyYm7j
— Brent A. Williams, MD (@BrentAWilliams2) December 3, 2021
We are and he is considering this.FTAggies said:
Your son in Texas? Either way tell him to look into the masters program at UNT HSC in Fort Worth, 80% matriculate into professional school. Had a friend of mine known about it he'd probably be a dentist today.
So, you posted a screenshot of a Tweet of somebody else's assessment of a book you have not read?Keegan99 said:https://t.co/QYVYGc7Toq pic.twitter.com/zqzKtOf1yv
— Amanda (@AmandaLuvsRoses) November 29, 2021Michelle Morse co-wrote this piece in Boston Review:
— Amanda (@AmandaLuvsRoses) November 29, 2021
"Offering preferential care based on race or ethnicity may elicit legal challenges from our system of colorblind law" https://t.co/3uZNe1YCsH https://t.co/Hkswnyetio pic.twitter.com/Qpdp9xly7W
In the future, you may not want a doctor who didn't complete their training prior to 2020. You also, regardless of diplomas, may need to inquire about scores on the SAT, MCAT, etc.
Touche my friend.Keegan99 said:
I've read enough. Thanks for the concern.
RBoo Weekley said:Yikes. I can't think of another profession where it is more vital to stick to just taking the best and brightest, regardless of skin tone. That is kind of scary.fightingfarmer09 said:
https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/new-chart-illustrates-graphically-racial-preferences-for-blacks-and-hispanics-being-admitted-to-us-medical-schools/
Airline pilot would be up there for sure...Boo Weekley said:fightingfarmer09 said:
https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/new-chart-illustrates-graphically-racial-preferences-for-blacks-and-hispanics-being-admitted-to-us-medical-schools/
Yikes. I can't think of another profession where it is more vital to stick to just taking the best and brightest, regardless of skin tone. That is kind of scary.
Boo Weekley said:Certain races also process/metabolize certain drugs differently and are more prone to becoming dependent on certain substances than other groups. Wife learned this at UT Pharmacy School. For instance, black people tend to get a more rewarding response from opiates than other groups. I think it has to do with how their enzymes break drugs down?AgResearch said:Quote:
If the concept of race has no genetic or scientific basis
Sickle cell anemia holding on line 1...
Woke Medical Lysenkoism is going to be a truly historic catastrophe, and their hope is that no one will ever notice. https://t.co/yqTeOYZfTV
— James Lindsay, Donald Trump of Intellectuals (@ConceptualJames) December 9, 2021
True, I am sure that is more how they taught it (ethnicity), I was just paraphrasing and using "race" loosely. It is just common sense that certain groups of people who evolved together over thousands of years in similar environments with similar outside influences would have certain biological similarities.Infection_Ag11 said:Boo Weekley said:Certain races also process/metabolize certain drugs differently and are more prone to becoming dependent on certain substances than other groups. Wife learned this at UT Pharmacy School. For instance, black people tend to get a more rewarding response from opiates than other groups. I think it has to do with how their enzymes break drugs down?AgResearch said:Quote:
If the concept of race has no genetic or scientific basis
Sickle cell anemia holding on line 1...
The problem with the concept of race is that it is largely an arbitrary and unscientific grouping.
Genetically, ethnic Nigerians and Ethiopians are more different than ethnic Portuguese and Poles. Most people would not consider people from Portugal and Poland as the same "race", but everyone groups everyone with dark skin from sub-Saharan Africa under the same banner.
It's silly to not acknowledge medical differences between groups of humans, but it's also true to say that race is a largely arbitrary and unscientific means of grouping people. We should really be using ethnicity and national origin.
You need 90th percentile to be "safe" now. good luck to himTAMU1990 said:
My son is trying to get in. 1 interview last year; no interviews so far this year. Got an 80% on the MCAT, good grades, had a job in college, was in the Corps, Traditions Council, etc. He's the wrong race and sex.
Absolutely no...... They are predatory and insanely expensive. American MD will also keep your doors open to all fields as residency is becoming more competitive to obtain. A carribean MD is tough to do anything other than primary care these days.Keegan99 said:TAMU1990 said:
My son is trying to get in. 1 interview last year; no interviews so far this year. Got an 80% on the MCAT, good grades, had a job in college, was in the Corps, Traditions Council, etc. He's the wrong race and sex.
There are medical schools in the Caribbean that may be worth a look.
Couldn't agree with this more. Have a lot of classmates who want to be ortho surgeons etc, but spend their week nights watching tv and having fun, while they coast by in the bottom half of the class. Theyre in for a rude awakening.cbaker20 said:
Agree with previous poster that stated this has been going on for quite a while. I graduated in 2010 and we had a contingent of "special track" students from a local HBCU that had different entry requirements from the rest of us. Lower GPA and mcat threshold. About half failed out within the first 2 years.
Education in medicine is very student dependent. I actively sought out procedures and did extra work for my upper levels so they'd throw me some opportunities. Some med students just coast through without really internalizing that one day they're going to have to actually do it themselves. You probably don't want those students to be your doctor.
It has already been moved to pass/fail for step 1One Louder said:KidDoc said:
What is really sad is when the students that slipped in hit an academic wall after year two and USMLE step 1. Now they are two years older, deeper in debt, and have no marketable skills. Lowering the bar for medical school acceptance is not helping anyone and is harmful to those students.
The USMLE will be dumbed down soon in order to further the agenda.
