***** OFFICIAL Russia v. Ukraine *****

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Demosthenes81
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4:13p, 5/10/22
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Russian "widows" mourning their lost husbands:

Seven and three are ten, not only now, but forever. There has never been a time when seven and three were not ten, nor will there ever be a time when they are not ten. Therefore, I have said that the truth of number is incorruptible and common to all who think. — St. Augustine
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In reply to Demosthenes81 • 4:15p, 5/10/22
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Demosthenes81 said:
Russian "widows" mourning their lost husbands:

Well, their husbands were pretty ugly men. Maybe they are looking to better deal them?
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In reply to aggiehawg • 4:18p, 5/10/22
Something tells me that those women weren't waiting on hubby to make it back before they moved on.
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In reply to Rossticus • 4:21p, 5/10/22
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Rossticus said:
Something tells me that those women weren't waiting on hubby to make it back before they moved on.
Hubby on the right was much older at 46. Hubby on the left, in his 20s.
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Oh my heavens! Those pictures are soo disturbing on many levels. Had to enlarge them to see the fake blood.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 9:16p, 5/10/22
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aggiehawg said:
Demosthenes81 said:
Russian "widows" mourning their lost husbands:

Well, their husbands were pretty ugly men. Maybe they are looking to better deal them?
Damn it, y'all are going to make me do this. I am going to have to go with 2 over 1 (2,1) due to the height on 2. Seems like they would both be fun right up till the time they cut your throat.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 9:19p, 5/10/22
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aggiehawg said:
Demosthenes81 said:
Russian "widows" mourning their lost husbands:

Well, their husbands were pretty ugly men. Maybe they are looking to better deal them?
They are waiting to get back to their Instagram and chaturbate followers.
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In reply to JB!98 • 9:29p, 5/10/22
JB!98 said:
aggiehawg said:
Demosthenes81 said:
Russian "widows" mourning their lost husbands:

Well, their husbands were pretty ugly men. Maybe they are looking to better deal them?
Damn it, y'all are going to make me do this. I am going to have to go with 2 over 1 (2,1) due to the height on 2. Seems like they would both be fun right up till the time they cut your throat.


1 gives me definite "sleep with one eye open and don't turn your back on her" vibes. Her eyes are barely just this side of serial killer.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 1:17a, 5/11/22
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aggiehawg said:
K2-HMFIC said:
Oh my heavens! Those pictures are soo disturbing on many levels. Had to enlarge them to see the fake blood.
definitely not subtle.

Pretty effective protest, I think, given the topic.
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In reply to Rossticus • 1:12a, 5/12/22
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Bless these folk. It can never be underestimated the value well prepared and good food can bring to an area. I was an infantryman and a hot meal can be one of the biggest morale boosters there is. It's energizing and mood lifting, particularly when in awful situations of course.

I've also done first response disaster relief and seeing people come together to feed the workers is almost tear inducing at times. I have stood in the wreckage of a neighborhood that was wiped in a tornado, filthy and exhausted but munching on a fresh brisket sandwich made just a few yards away by a resident just to feed us. One of the best tasting meals I have ever had. Will never forget that.

This is important work up above.
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In reply to Eliminatus • 9:51a, 5/12/22
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Not going to lie - for some reason that brought a tear to my eye.
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In reply to Demosthenes81 • 12:52p, 5/12/22
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On the left, supposed daughter, on the right the sorrowful widow.


Seven and three are ten, not only now, but forever. There has never been a time when seven and three were not ten, nor will there ever be a time when they are not ten. Therefore, I have said that the truth of number is incorruptible and common to all who think. — St. Augustine
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1:01p, 5/12/22
They are probably not even their widows. Just someone paid to parade around as some.
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In reply to Rossticus • 1:07p, 5/12/22
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Something tells me that those women weren't waiting on hubby to make it back before they moved on.
Suspect they weren't even their wives, but paid actresses.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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In reply to Demosthenes81 • 4:26p, 5/12/22
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Demosthenes81 said:
Russian "widows" mourning their lost husbands:



Clicked on a link to a TASS article in the strategic thread and got this Russian ad. She seemed very familiar...

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7:28a, 5/13/22
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Did I read the headline correct? At the gym all it said was EU to delay oil sanctions. So they are going to continue to buy oil from Russia?
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In reply to backintexas2013 • 10:49a, 5/13/22
Hungary won't support it so, per EU rules, it won't pass. Other countries are individually divesting themselves, preemptive to EU action but some aren't.
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7:24a, 5/15/22
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I got a message from a friend who is from Kharkiv and who founded a company based there. They had to evacuate around March 1 and take as much with them as they could on very short notice as shelling became heavy. The company CEO did not make it out of the city and was trapped there among the Russians. She was living in her basement trying to avoid notice of the Russians for over two months. Conditions deteriorated and most of the past 80 days she was without electricity, running water, or phone service.

Six days ago, one of the company's employees who is a soldier fighting to retake Kharkiv made it to the CEO's house and let her know that the siege was over. I don't speak Ukrainian so I don't know what they are saying but here's the clip he sent to me.

https://streamable.com/hri11j
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9:45a, 5/15/22
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Casually strolling toward a major land war in Europe.



No worries, Anthony Blinken has got this one.
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In reply to nortex97 • 10:18a, 5/15/22
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Casually strolling toward a major land war in Europe.



No worries, Anthony Blinken has got this one.



Okkkkk…please explain how Sweden and Finland joining NATO will lead to land war in Europe?

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In reply to K2-HMFIC • 10:51a, 5/15/22
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K2-HMFIC said:
nortex97 said:
Casually strolling toward a major land war in Europe.



No worries, Anthony Blinken has got this one.



Okkkkk…please explain how Sweden and Finland joining NATO will lead to land war in Europe?

We are talking about kicking out Turkey, if so, and we also have Russia cutting off the Finnish power already with the application. That may only be 10 percent of their electric consumption right now, but more will follow. The steady escalation with Russia is only going to lead to a broader conflict, clearly. The Turks fragmenting nato support offer Scandinavian support for PKK is also very problematic.

We (collectively) are just casually approaching a very desperate situation with Russia with increasingly intense actions that will prompt responses.
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In reply to K2-HMFIC • 10:53a, 5/15/22
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K2-HMFIC said:
nortex97 said:
Casually strolling toward a major land war in Europe.



No worries, Anthony Blinken has got this one.



Okkkkk…please explain how Sweden and Finland joining NATO will lead to land war in Europe?

Turkey is just trying to squeeze concessions out of Sweden such as cutting off support for the Kurds.
Seven and three are ten, not only now, but forever. There has never been a time when seven and three were not ten, nor will there ever be a time when they are not ten. Therefore, I have said that the truth of number is incorruptible and common to all who think. — St. Augustine
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In reply to nortex97 • 11:05a, 5/15/22
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We aren't talking about kicking Turkey out of NATO. That's absurd.
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In reply to Demosthenes81 • 11:05a, 5/15/22
Demosthenes81 said:
K2-HMFIC said:
nortex97 said:
Casually strolling toward a major land war in Europe.



No worries, Anthony Blinken has got this one.



Okkkkk…please explain how Sweden and Finland joining NATO will lead to land war in Europe?

Turkey is just trying to squeeze concessions out of Sweden such as cutting off support for the Kurds.


Concur. For them, everything comes back to the Kurds…or as they call them…"Mountain Turks"
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2:16p, 5/15/22
The entire "Russia will start WW3 if we don't do what they saaaaayyyyyyy" hysteria is absolutely the most limply illogical stance possible. It's the stance of liberals during the Cold War. Russia exploits weakness and responds to strength. Always have, always will. Russia will not attack a NATO country or a country that they don't view as easy pickens. They wouldn't have attacked Ukraine if they were clear as to what they'd be getting into.
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In reply to nortex97 • 2:22p, 5/15/22
nortex97 said:
K2-HMFIC said:
nortex97 said:
Casually strolling toward a major land war in Europe.



No worries, Anthony Blinken has got this one.



Okkkkk…please explain how Sweden and Finland joining NATO will lead to land war in Europe?

We are talking about kicking out Turkey, if so, and we also have Russia cutting off the Finnish power already with the application. That may only be 10 percent of their electric consumption right now, but more will follow. The steady escalation with Russia is only going to lead to a broader conflict, clearly. The Turks fragmenting nato support offer Scandinavian support for PKK is also very problematic.

We (collectively) are just casually approaching a very desperate situation with Russia with increasingly intense actions that will prompt responses.


You're conflating bargaining power with somehow escalating to world war 3.

Turkey is trying extract concessions…and Meanwhile we've been openly running guns to the Ukrainians, and providing them intelligence to kill Russians and THAT has not escalated to WW3.

Why?

Because we are a nuclear armed superpower and deterrence cuts both ways.
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In reply to Rossticus • 2:45p, 5/15/22
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I am of the opinion that the operational state of Russia's nuclear arsenal is no better, and probably worse, than their conventional forces. Putin may know this but the smart people that are a degree of separation from him definitely know it even if saying so would mean their death. Lavrov knows it and so does Arestovich and Zelenskyy.

What kind of life does a Russian near weapon engineer or technician have? Are they part of the elite class? I don't think so. Are they true believers in Putinism that actuallyou believe that those missiles and warheads are going to be used someday and if so, do they believe that they themselves and Russia will survive? I doubt it.

I suspect that the maintainers of the Russian Nuke force are as corrupt as the Colonels in the army and they pocket the money that is provided for upkeep. They are face with a bullet in the head if the state of those weapons is discovered by Putin or that he will try to use them.
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