***** OFFICIAL Russia v. Ukraine *****

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TriAg2010 said:

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An interesting point was made earlier today - when Putin finally topples the Uke government and installs his own puppet, what will he have? The way the population is resisting now you can bet there will be deep resentment held toward the Russians. The population will not happily be Russians. I can see Ukraine becoming a problem for Putin for a very long time.


From Putin's speech before the invasion, I didn't get the sense that he plans to install a Ukrainian puppet government. I got the impression Putin wants Ukraine as *part* of Russia. I'm sure there will be complaint political offices appointed at the municipal and state (or oblast or whatever) level, but I don't think Putin's intention is for Ukraine to persist as a nationality.
I see the distinction of Ukraine as a puppet versus an absorbed region although I don't think that is the point. Regardless, it will be an area of unrest requiring a lot of attention. I don't doubt they will be ruthless in bringing the area to heel. But, that may be at the expense of an ongoing guerilla war, French Resistance style. Bringing the region under control may be a large task. Rebellious resistance may persist for a long time. I don't get the impression the Russians are seen as liberators.
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PJYoung said:




I believe Elon could do it
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Zelensky has more balls than any of our folks in Congress. He will go down in history for this moment. Really pulling for Ukraine hard here. FVP
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PJYoung said:




Wait... is Elon implying he can provide reboost to the ISS which is currently only done with Soyuz? Reprogram dragon to use the Super Dracos? Keep a 2nd stage docked?



Should we move this to the SpaceX thread?
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I hope Putin exhausts his own army to Russia be a non threat. Will make it easy to go in and capture him later on
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PJYoung said:



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PJYoung said:




It's Kazakhstan's chance to invade Russia while they're busy in Ukraine
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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Damn traitors
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TChaney said:


holy sh-t that seems too close
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Luke 10:19 KJV
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you
God bless Ukraine
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"Explosion at a tractor plant."

Possibly near a Metro Train Depot - may have been issues with translation.
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I'm going to file this under no *****
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Who's a good boy?
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Go to page 132 of this thread live of the capital and listen to the gunfire, it is getting close.
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Maybe footage from earlier today?
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Insane to me that civilians would be driving along right near a tank/convoy detachment
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GarryowenAg said:

redline248 said:

Are large paratrooper operations still a key piece of what the US military would attempt in a similar scenario?
Only if we have major control of the airspace around the AO (Area of Operations), and we have the ability to drop armor and artillery in coordination.
(And by major control, we need control of the airspace for 60-80% of the time.)


The Army would disagree but the Air Force ain't going in without air superiority near it.
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Being reported that Putin requested Kazakhstan send troops into Ukraine. They have refused. They have also refused to recognize the breakaway territories of Ukraine.

The pushback may be because it is being postulated Putin wants Kazakhstan to become part of Russia.
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CCP 50 cent army not wasting an opportunity to push out more propaganda.
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TChaney said:

repost of old footage


My hope is if that was in downtown Dallas or DC or whatever then civilians would be there armed and taking out truck drivers and dismounted infantry as fast as possible. I.E. an enemy column moving through a city.
You do not have a soul. You are a soul that has a body.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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How many troops does Russia still have sitting at the border it seems like they still have a ton left still.
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TommyBrady said:

How many troops does Russia still have sitting at the border it seems like they still have a ton left still.


That's what's been said. Allegedly only about a third or so of the troops have crossed the border.

If supply chain logistic issues are as real as being rumored, those troops massed at the border may not have really been in any sort of shape to fight. Maybe a big bluff to make it look like the invasion was going to be bigger than it was.

I'm not so sure the soldiers running into houses and stealing food/clothes are really going to be professional saboteurs. Seems like they would've just brought civilian clothes with them.
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AgBQ-00 said:

TChaney said:

repost of old footage


My hope is if that was in downtown Dallas or DC or whatever then civilians would be there armed and taking out truck drivers and dismounted infantry as fast as possible. I.E. an enemy column moving through a city.


Downtown DC or Dallas? Would more likely take out our domestic trucker caravan than the communists
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Reading some of the Indian news sites last night. They were on route to send a charter plane to evacuate a bunch of medical students studying in Kyiv and they actually turned back to India. Ukraine closed air space as they were already in route.

Modi spoke with Putin about this directly and Putin said he would pass along orders to make sure to keep Indians safe. In the sort of environment we are seeing right now, that's going to be pretty difficult to guarantee.
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Rubio needs to stop tweeting.
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AgBQ-00 said:

TChaney said:

repost of old footage


My hope is if that was in downtown Dallas or DC or whatever then civilians would be there armed and taking out truck drivers and dismounted infantry as fast as possible. I.E. an enemy column moving through a city.
DC? Those libs would be armed with pride flags throwing a bunch of dildos at the enemy. You serious Clark?
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Yukon Cornelius said:

Rubio needs to stop tweeting.


Completely disagree. He's very much doing this on purpose.
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