***** OFFICIAL Russia v. Ukraine *****

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5:59p, 2/22/22
80% of the Russian army is lined up at Ukraine, Patton would be touching himself at this chance.
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In reply to Seabreeze • 6:01p, 2/22/22
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Who needs Patton… we have Peepaw and his woke Generals to save the day now!
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In reply to Raiderjay • 6:02p, 2/22/22
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Amazing she can tackle Putin and the border crisis at the same time......


She is ****ing despicable
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6:05p, 2/22/22
Doesn't change anything but doesn't hurt…hmmmm…

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In reply to Rossticus • 6:05p, 2/22/22
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Rossticus said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
Rossticus said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
One stolen election sure put a lot of things in motion.

Wake up libs, you are being played.


Sir, this is not the TexAgs resident Lib thread. Thanks.
Never said it was. They are definitely at the core of this.


Libs are at the core of what? Putin's invasion or Biden's half assed response?


Well...biden is a lib sooooooo...
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In reply to Rossticus • 6:06p, 2/22/22
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Rossticus said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
Rossticus said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
One stolen election sure put a lot of things in motion.

Wake up libs, you are being played.


Sir, this is not the TexAgs resident Lib thread. Thanks.
Never said it was. They are definitely at the core of this.


Libs are at the core of what? Putin's invasion or Biden's half assed response?
Putting Biden in office. The timing from Russia is not a coincidence.
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In reply to GAC06 • 6:07p, 2/22/22
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GAC06 said:
javajaws said:
GAC06 said:
Rossticus said:
GAC06 said:
Russians have had problems keeping their soldiers off their phones


Hope they continue to. These guys don't want to be there any more than Ukraine wants them there. They've watched their buddies die in Syria while Putin sweeps the deaths under a rug like a dirty secret instead of treating them like heroes. They know the score.


I hope Ukraine hits them hard early and this could get interesting. Javelins are pretty bad ass and they have a lot.
As expensive as large vehicles like tanks and airplanes are becoming - really the best thing is heavily armed infantry with AT and AA capabilities. Cheap and able to produce/buy lots of them. Great as a defensive deterrent.


Yep, mobility and survivability is the weakness though. Russia demonstrated how effective cheap drones can be when combined with good ole artillery. Azerbaijan did a lot of damage to Armenia similarly more recently.
You're a bit off here... the Russians backed Armenia (the losing side). Azerbaijan used Israeli and Turkish drones to annihilate Armenian forces. The Russians would have learnt from this, but moreso from their experience in Syria where they tried out all of their latest weaponry.
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In reply to deddog • 6:08p, 2/22/22
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I'm aware of who backed who. I'm talking about the tactic.
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In reply to Year of the Germaphobe • 6:10p, 2/22/22
Year of the Germaphobe said:
Rossticus said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
Rossticus said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
One stolen election sure put a lot of things in motion.

Wake up libs, you are being played.


Sir, this is not the TexAgs resident Lib thread. Thanks.
Never said it was. They are definitely at the core of this.


Libs are at the core of what? Putin's invasion or Biden's half assed response?


Well...biden is a lib sooooooo...


Look, I've seen enough crackpot theories of Libs constructing this whole mess, over the last couple of days, that I don't assume isht any more.

Biden looks like a monkey trying to ferk a football in dealing with this and is costing us valuable time, I agree wholeheartedly, but what you said can be construed a couple of different ways. Just wanted to be absolutely clear as to what was being asserted.

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In reply to Rossticus • 6:16p, 2/22/22
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Rossticus said:
Year of the Germaphobe said:
Rossticus said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
Rossticus said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
One stolen election sure put a lot of things in motion.

Wake up libs, you are being played.


Sir, this is not the TexAgs resident Lib thread. Thanks.
Never said it was. They are definitely at the core of this.


Libs are at the core of what? Putin's invasion or Biden's half assed response?


Well...biden is a lib sooooooo...


Look, I've seen enough crackpot theories of Libs constructing this whole mess, over the last couple of days, that I don't assume isht any more.

Biden looks like a monkey trying to ferk a football in dealing with this and is costing us valuable time, I agree wholeheartedly, but "at the core of this whole mess can be construed a couple of different ways. Just wanted to be absolutely clear as to what was being asserted.

I don't think they constructed this at all. It's simply a result of poor leadership and zero tactical planning. Liberals aren't capable of thinking two moves forward. Also, the majority of liberal behavior is focused on virtue signaling, or acting out of spite towards conservatives. None of what they've done so far has benefited our nation. That is not debatable.
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In reply to GAC06 • 6:16p, 2/22/22
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GAC06 said:
I'm aware of who backed who. I'm talking about the tactic.
It might have changed the face of warfare as we know it
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6:16p, 2/22/22
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soooo we know where their troops are. is a long range ballistic missile an option here?

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6:21p, 2/22/22
Tell me I am crazy----



Putin was planning on doing this in 2017-18 after Hilldawg was elected and then ---------- BOOM---- Trump wins. Putin doesn't know what to make of the guy. He's loud, he is brash, he talks about how big his button is--- If he decides to invade Ukraine could this wild card President really nuke his army into oblivion? Best not to risk it.

So Putin tables the idea until someone else is in office.........



Anybody think I am wrong?
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In reply to Funky Winkerbean • 6:21p, 2/22/22
Funky Winkerbean said:
Rossticus said:
Year of the Germaphobe said:
Rossticus said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
Rossticus said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
One stolen election sure put a lot of things in motion.

Wake up libs, you are being played.


Sir, this is not the TexAgs resident Lib thread. Thanks.
Never said it was. They are definitely at the core of this.


Libs are at the core of what? Putin's invasion or Biden's half assed response?


Well...biden is a lib sooooooo...


Look, I've seen enough crackpot theories of Libs constructing this whole mess, over the last couple of days, that I don't assume isht any more.

Biden looks like a monkey trying to ferk a football in dealing with this and is costing us valuable time, I agree wholeheartedly, but "at the core of this whole mess can be construed a couple of different ways. Just wanted to be absolutely clear as to what was being asserted.

I don't think they constructed this at all. It's simply a result of poor leadership and zero tactical planning. Liberals aren't capable of thinking two moves forward. Also, the majority of liberal behavior is focused on virtue signaling, or acting out of spite towards conservatives. None of what they've done so far has benefited our nation. That is not debatable.


And I don't believe I've said anything that would indicate that I disagree with that. The administration has not performed well thus far in this matter.
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In reply to deddog • 6:22p, 2/22/22
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deddog said:
GAC06 said:
I'm aware of who backed who. I'm talking about the tactic.
It might have changed the face of warfare as we know it


Absolutely. We are working on stuff to counter drones but pretty much every military is very far behind, especially Ukraine I bet
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In reply to Clob94 • 6:24p, 2/22/22
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Tell me I am crazy----



Putin was planning on doing this in 2017-18 after Hilldawg was elected and then ---------- BOOM---- Trump wins. Putin doesn't know what to make of the guy. He's loud, he is brash, he talks about how big his button is--- If he decides to invade Ukraine could this wild card President really nuke his army into oblivion? Best not to risk it.

So Putin tables the idea until someone else is in office.........



Anybody think I am wrong?


Also didn't hurt that Trump was doing a good job of rattling NATO and putting distance between other members and the US, going so far as to talk about pulling out.

Putin wisely decided to step back and see where that road led. Then Administrations changed and he was dealing with a more well known quantity so he moved forward.
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In reply to deddog • 6:27p, 2/22/22
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deddog said:
GAC06 said:
I'm aware of who backed who. I'm talking about the tactic.
It might have changed the face of warfare as we know it


Go on….
(I'm genuinely curious)
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6:31p, 2/22/22
Putin knows exactly who he is dealing with in Biden, as he saw 8 yrs of him and Obama make "lines in the sand", threats of serious action, and then waffle and cower into doing nothing….

He is doing this now because of biden and the current weak West…
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In reply to GAC06 • 6:32p, 2/22/22
GAC06 said:
deddog said:
GAC06 said:
I'm aware of who backed who. I'm talking about the tactic.
It might have changed the face of warfare as we know it


Absolutely. We are working on stuff to counter drones but pretty much every military is very far behind, especially Ukraine I bet
is that radar tech or are we working on like a backwards HARM weapon that can track the little drones and destroy them?
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6:32p, 2/22/22
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Putin believes everything he's saying.

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In reply to Rossticus • 6:33p, 2/22/22
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Rossticus said:
Clob94 said:
Tell me I am crazy----



Putin was planning on doing this in 2017-18 after Hilldawg was elected and then ---------- BOOM---- Trump wins. Putin doesn't know what to make of the guy. He's loud, he is brash, he talks about how big his button is--- If he decides to invade Ukraine could this wild card President really nuke his army into oblivion? Best not to risk it.

So Putin tables the idea until someone else is in office.........



Anybody think I am wrong?


Also didn't hurt that Trump was doing a good job of rattling NATO and putting distance between other members and the US, going so far as to talk about pulling out.

Putin wisely decided to step back and see where that road led. Then Administrations changed and he was dealing with a more well known quantity so he moved forward.
Trump didn't allow the price of oil to skyrocket either. Expensive oil greatly benefits Russia.

Biden also restricted domestic production.

Hmmmmmm…
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In reply to HvilleAggie • 6:34p, 2/22/22
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HvilleAggie said:
deddog said:
GAC06 said:
I'm aware of who backed who. I'm talking about the tactic.
It might have changed the face of warfare as we know it


Go on….
(I'm genuinely curious)


Cheap off the shelf drones can provide real time targeting information for old school artillery. Artillery is the king of battle.

Modern drones designed as weapons can loiter and provide reconnaissance then "suicide" into high value targets with a built in warhead. There aren't really systems in place to shoot these things down. They're low cost, high reward.
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In reply to Rossticus • 6:34p, 2/22/22
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Rossticus said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
Rossticus said:
Year of the Germaphobe said:
Rossticus said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
Rossticus said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
One stolen election sure put a lot of things in motion.

Wake up libs, you are being played.


Sir, this is not the TexAgs resident Lib thread. Thanks.
Never said it was. They are definitely at the core of this.


Libs are at the core of what? Putin's invasion or Biden's half assed response?


Well...biden is a lib sooooooo...


Look, I've seen enough crackpot theories of Libs constructing this whole mess, over the last couple of days, that I don't assume isht any more.

Biden looks like a monkey trying to ferk a football in dealing with this and is costing us valuable time, I agree wholeheartedly, but "at the core of this whole mess can be construed a couple of different ways. Just wanted to be absolutely clear as to what was being asserted.

I don't think they constructed this at all. It's simply a result of poor leadership and zero tactical planning. Liberals aren't capable of thinking two moves forward. Also, the majority of liberal behavior is focused on virtue signaling, or acting out of spite towards conservatives. None of what they've done so far has benefited our nation. That is not debatable.


And I don't believe I've said anything that would indicate that I disagree with that. The administration has not performed well thus far in this matter.
I never said you did. You just took exception to me pointing out the liberals responsibility in this mess.
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In reply to Clob94 • 6:37p, 2/22/22
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Clob94 said:
GAC06 said:
deddog said:
GAC06 said:
I'm aware of who backed who. I'm talking about the tactic.
It might have changed the face of warfare as we know it


Absolutely. We are working on stuff to counter drones but pretty much every military is very far behind, especially Ukraine I bet
is that radar tech or are we working on like a backwards HARM weapon that can track the little drones and destroy them?


Combination of small missiles, eventually lasers, and electronic warfare

https://www.raytheonmissilesanddefense.com/capabilities/counter-uas
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In reply to Funky Winkerbean • 6:37p, 2/22/22
Just wasn't clear on what you were suggesting. No exception taken now that I do. Glad we got that cleared up.
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6:37p, 2/22/22
Well, NOW, I'm convinced. LMAO!

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In reply to Rossticus • 6:38p, 2/22/22
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Printed off date card? My, how convenient.
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6:42p, 2/22/22
Putin is the alpha dog on this porch and everyone knows it. I anticipate he will do whatever he desires and succeed, combating only harsh words from the world's peanut gallery. He has Bide(ne)d his time and the spoils are now easily taken.

Xi is very likely relaxing, awaiting the outcome of Putin's gambit, and is poised to make his move on Taiwan.
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In reply to jabberwalkie09 • 6:45p, 2/22/22
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Printed off date card? My, how convenient.
Probably did 5 takes.
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aezmvp said:
jabberwalkie09 said:
Printed off date card? My, how convenient.
Probably did 5 takes.


Learned from the best. CNN and Fox
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In reply to sharpdressedman • 6:48p, 2/22/22
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Putin is the alpha dog on this porch and everyone knows it. I anticipate he will do whatever he desires and succeed, combating only harsh words from the world's peanut gallery. He has Bide(ne)d his time and the spoils are now easily taken.

Xi is very likely relaxing, awaiting the outcome of Putin's gambit, and is poised to make his move on Taiwan.


Then you should go keep up with this on Russian state media. You'll enjoy it more than following along here. Proclaiming the imminent defeat of America this early in the game because of political proclivities is dewshy. We want to win this. Any alternative is very bad for a lot of people.
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In reply to Rossticus • 6:52p, 2/22/22
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that is one chernobyl looking mother****er
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In reply to highvelocity • 6:54p, 2/22/22
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that is one chernobyl looking mother****er
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In reply to highvelocity • 6:55p, 2/22/22
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highvelocity said:
that is one chernobyl looking mother****er

Well, Prypyat is in Ukarine… So its a definite possibility.
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