McInnis 03 said:

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JUST IN - Putin orders #Russian armed forces to enter rebel territories in eastern Ukraine for "peacekeeping operations."

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) February 21, 2022

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Annnnnd there's the gauntlet.

Irish 2.0 said:

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PUTIN ORDERS PEACEKEEPING OPERATION IN EASTERN UKRAINE'S TWO BREAKAWAY REGIONS

— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) February 21, 2022

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Incursion into Ukraine under the guise of "peacekeeping operation." Well played, Vlad.

McInnis 03 said:

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JUST IN - Putin orders #Russian armed forces to enter rebel territories in eastern Ukraine for "peacekeeping operations."

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) February 21, 2022

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LMCane said:

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aTmAg said:

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LMCane said:

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aTmAg said:

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Biden could put an end to this right now by flat out declaring an invasion of Ukraine means all out war. Stick F-22s, F35s, F15s, F16s, and A10s nearby and say we will use our air power to it's full effect to repel any invasion. By projecting weakness, he is encouraging Putin (and others).

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That's insanity and the destruction of a large part of the us military

You think the leftists are going to join up to invade Ukraine to liberate them from Russia?!? This isn't a call of duty game- you are literally discussing a potential nuclear exchange

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You guys are clearly ignorant of history.

Putin knows our airpower is so dominating that he would never dream of invading if he was convinced we would use it against him. You guys want to convince him we wouldn't. Which is the EXACT opposite thing to do.

People like you claimed Reagan was going to start a war by being so smashmouth with the Soviets. History proved him right, and you wrong.

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Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld - is that you?

Yeah, I'm ignorant of history. I only have a Bachelors in military history, have traveled to 37 countries, lived overseas, and spent 10 years in the Air Force Intelligence Branch (serving at the Pentagon on the Joint Chiefs of Staff as a LT).

what are your bona fides again?

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So lets get this straight... you said a few pages ago:

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Seems like a really good time to take out a lot of Russian weapons since they are sitting there all in rows.

If this thing is going to go hot, that is.

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been saying this for the last week

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So you suggest we take out Russian weapons that are sitting there in rows (which would make us the aggressor) and start a war, yet criticize me for suggesting we deploy enough firepower to KEEP A WAR FROM EVER STARTING.

Dude... I don't give a crap how impressive you think being a LT on the JCoS is. That is just idiocy.

And people who have been here long enough know my history. Besides saying it involves intel and defense for over 20 years, I'm not going to spell it out here.

Sure you do.

The internet and all things electronic will go silent there before too long.

45-70Ag said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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THE UK GOVERNMENT: SANCTIONS WILL BE INCREASED IF AN INVASION OCCURS, BUT WE WILL NOT GO AS FAR AS THE FULL PACKAGE PREPARED - THE GUARDIAN.

— Breaking News | FinancialJuice (@Financialjuice1) February 21, 2022

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Half ass effort that will accomplish nothing. The people of Ukraine are ****ed.

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kind of sounds like Joe Biden discussing "a limited invasion" from a few weeks ago.

it's just the tip I swear!

When does Putin recognize the Republic of Texas? That's all I give a sh@! about.

RUSSIAN PRESIDENT PUTIN HAS ORDERED RUSSIAN TROOPS INTO UKRAINE - FT REPORTER TWEET

— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) February 21, 2022

Seeing this floated around on Twitter. No exact confirmation yet…

Reports from on the ground Confirming that Ukrainian Air Defenses have downed something in the Eastern part of the Country, no clue what they have downed as of yet but more info coming soon.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) February 21, 2022

LMCane said:

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jabberwalkie09 said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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PUTIN ORDERS PEACEKEEPING OPERATION IN EASTERN UKRAINE'S TWO BREAKAWAY REGIONS

— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) February 21, 2022

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Right on cue. I'm thinking these movements started as soon as Putin started his speech.

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it is pretty amazing that for a "poor" country as the White House refers to Russia, they sure are able to stage a cr@p ton of military equipment throughout Syria and Ukraine and Belarus

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Military equipment doesn't have to be terribly expensive. Especially ground equipment. Its just expensive in western/capitalist countries because there is money to be made selling it and that industry has to compete with the private sector as well (for labor and materials, etc).

On top of that, when you (as a country) make your own crap and have the industrial capacity to make your own metals it can be even cheaper.

jabberwalkie09 said:

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Seeing this floated around on Twitter. No exact confirmation yet…

Reports from on the ground Confirming that Ukrainian Air Defenses have downed something in the Eastern part of the Country, no clue what they have downed as of yet but more info coming soon.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) February 21, 2022

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Aliens are on Russia's side. *****

Putin has ordered Russian troops into Ukraine.

The decrees on recognizing the Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics order the Russian armed forces to go into separatist territory on peacekeeping missions. pic.twitter.com/cjKMidlD4Q

— max seddon (@maxseddon) February 21, 2022

Anyone brushed up on their Cyrillic lately?

Irish 2.0 said:

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RUSSIAN PRESIDENT PUTIN HAS ORDERED RUSSIAN TROOPS INTO UKRAINE - FT REPORTER TWEET

— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) February 21, 2022

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***** It's on now. Let's pray clearer heads prevail and find a way to de-escalate.

🇺🇦⚡️NSC Secretary Danilov says they continue to consider Donbass as Ukrainian territory.

— Ukraine War Report (@UkrWarReport) February 21, 2022

So it seems like the table is now set.

Now that Russia has declared the two regions independent, he can send in his forces and it will be up to Ukraine to start operations and firing on the Russians. Putin's guess, and my guess too, is that Ukraine will not fire and just hold their positions.

Soon, the two independent regions will announce referendums to join Russia, and then be annexed. All this without a shot being fired, and only economic sanctions being levied (Which will quietly go away after several years).

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Rossticus said:

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If there was a time for Biden to have a dementia rage moment now is it. Any day now Brandon. Suck it up buttercup.

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I dare Biden to call Putin a dog-faced pony soldier, followed by a "Come on pal".

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Or "Putin, you're ass my dude!"

jabberwalkie09 said:

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🇺🇦⚡️NSC Secretary Danilov says they continue to consider Donbass as Ukrainian territory.

— Ukraine War Report (@UkrWarReport) February 21, 2022

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Ballsy. I hope they somehow prevail. A lot of good people are about to die terrible deaths.

aTmAg said:

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But Ag4Life promised us that Russia would never step foot in Ukraine.

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Among several others.

Foolish claims. How anyone here could ever hope to predict what a Russian is going to do is flat out laughable. I gave up trying to call them out.

Irish 2.0 said:

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THE UK GOVERNMENT: SANCTIONS WILL BE INCREASED IF AN INVASION OCCURS, BUT WE WILL NOT GO AS FAR AS THE FULL PACKAGE PREPARED - THE GUARDIAN.

— Breaking News | FinancialJuice (@Financialjuice1) February 21, 2022

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To me this reads that we are willing to hold off on the most impactful sanctions to see if there is an attempt to push on Kiev and greater Ukraine or if Russia just takes the recently recognized "autonomous" border regions. This essentially signals that we're willing to ultimately accept Russia taking the border regions.

TBH Russian troops were in Donbas since 2014. But now they will be overt and with air support. https://t.co/HH4qg7JePt

— Yaroslav Trofimov (@yarotrof) February 21, 2022

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jabberwalkie09 said:

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AFSOC air convoy up currently from 🇵🇱 Powidz AB, Poland, north of Krakow.

🇺🇸 RAGGY81 is MC-130J 09-5713 #AE4BE6
🇺🇸 125759 is MC-130J 12-5759 #AE54CC
🇺🇸 00000000 is CV-22B 11-0060 #AE540C

Transmitting ADS-B (except CV-22B... MLAT). Found using open-source means (@ADSBexchange). pic.twitter.com/R9teROGfnH

— Evergreen Intel (@vcdgf555) February 21, 2022

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Anyone have any speculation on what this is indicative of?

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Purely speculative but my guess would be emergency evacuations

45-70Ag said:

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Putin needs to be killed. **** it, he has the ability and desire to start a broad war and should be killed.

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Don't make him Archduke Ferdinand!

not sure if posted but some video clips of Putin laying out his strategy from today.

good thing Biden approved of Germany moving forward with NordStream 2, when it was Trump who was blocking that pipeline for years.

Crazy Vlad Lecturing his students in PoliSci

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Irish 2.0 said:

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THE UK GOVERNMENT: SANCTIONS WILL BE INCREASED IF AN INVASION OCCURS, BUT WE WILL NOT GO AS FAR AS THE FULL PACKAGE PREPARED - THE GUARDIAN.

— Breaking News | FinancialJuice (@Financialjuice1) February 21, 2022

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To me this reads that we are willing to hold off on the most impactful sanctions to see if there is an attempt to push on Kiev and greater Ukraine or just take the recently recognized "autonomous" border regions. This essentially signals that we're willing to ultimately accept Russia taking the border regions.

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Joe hinted at this back when he let slip he didn't really care about "minor" border fights

2/ pic.twitter.com/QxIUcB7XxC

— Ukraine War Report (@UkrWarReport) February 21, 2022

Good background on the latest de facto Russian annexation of more of Ukraine: Donbas

flakrat said:

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45-70Ag said:

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Putin needs to be killed. **** it, he has the ability and desire to start a broad war and should be killed.

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Don't make him Archduke Ferdinand!

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LMAO

okay, as if it's so easy to just kill the leader of the Russian Federation.

you do realize that there is an ACTUAL LAW in the United States against assassinating political leaders?!

pic.twitter.com/6ZLyRQdNQD

— Ukraine War Report (@UkrWarReport) February 21, 2022

DTP02 said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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THE UK GOVERNMENT: SANCTIONS WILL BE INCREASED IF AN INVASION OCCURS, BUT WE WILL NOT GO AS FAR AS THE FULL PACKAGE PREPARED - THE GUARDIAN.

— Breaking News | FinancialJuice (@Financialjuice1) February 21, 2022

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To me this reads that we are willing to hold off on the most impactful sanctions to see if there is an attempt to push on Kiev and greater Ukraine or if Russia just takes the recently recognized "autonomous" border regions. This essentially signals that we're willing to ultimately accept Russia taking the border regions.

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DING, DING, DING!!!

Everyone was prepared to offer up Donbas. Putin decided he can just take it though. This gives Putin the win for Russia and gives the others the win of "Well it wasn't Kiev."