***** OFFICIAL Russia v. Ukraine *****

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Only 25% of Germany's gas consumption goes to power.

https://www.enerdata.net/estore/energy-market/germany/#:~:text=Natural%20Gas%20Consumption&text=In%202020%2C%20buildings%20(residential%2C,of%20gas%20consumption%20in%202010.

It's not a question of energy, it's a question of economics. Most gas goes directly to homes or other buildings. Another large portion goes to the industrial sector as feedstock.
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Good news keyboard warriors.

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Tex117 said:

BlueTaze said:

I wonder if the Germans are laughing now like they did when Trump lectured/warned them on national stage about this.

Trump sent mean tweets, but he understood geopolitical leverage. Biden only understands kick backs and blackmail. That's why billionaires make better presidents than corrupt career politicians who never held a real job. Putin clearly knows the difference too, and Zelenskyy is learning the hard way.
I wonder if we had a better Republican president who didn't Mean Tweet would have been respected enough on the world stage to actually have the message go through (which isn't exactly some impressive feat. Most everyone saw it was a bad idea).

But hey, go pray to your loser messiah.
The Republican part the is problem, it would not matter who the president was, if he had an R by his name, they would not listen.
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Polaris75 said:

Good news keyboard warriors.




That's... Uh... A little dated...
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Proc92 said:

Seems like a resolution aimed at outlaws like orban. He bucks the system.
Looks to me like the resolution is aimed at January 6th.
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aggiehawg said:

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Whereas the NATO Parliamentary Assembly has endorsed and advanced a proposal to establish a NATO Center for Democratic Resilience within NATO headquarters for the purposes of monitoring and identifying challenges to democracy, human rights, and the rule of law and facilitating democracy and governance assistance to member, partner, and aspirant states, when requested:
WTH does that mean?

Reading between the lines and wading through the platitudes I read it as the left using the guise of the progressive bromide from the odious Woodrow Wilson of "making the world safe for democracy" while in fact setting up a bureaucracy within NATO with which to push woke ideology and things like CRT on NATO and particularly on states that want to join NATO. Meaning "you must be this woke to join NATO", thus making NATO not a defensive alliance to deter Russian aggression but a vehicle for the left's woke ideologies with regard to race, "human rights", and their version of democracy.
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. It's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of miseries." - Winston Churchill
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Interesting that certain people remain in Mariupol and receive aid while certain others are shipped into Russia.



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Rossticus
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That strikes me as a regrettable decision.
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Either a wacko or maybe found out a loved one died is all got.
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FAT SEXY said:

I've been too busy to really keep up with the thread..

Is there a general consensus opinion here on where this war is going? What is the end game of this thing going to entail?


Ukraine's end game is to survive as a sovereign nation and drive Russia out.

Russia has stated their end game numerous times. The elimination of Ukraine as an independent entity and the "reeducation" of its people so that they understand they have no identity apart from Russia and obey their Russian master.

Where things head depends on the commitment of the US and Europe to provide Ukraine sufficient assistance such that they're able to achieve their goal of survival.

If Russia is able to secure permanent territorial/strategic gains in Ukraine then it's only a matter of time until they try again, unless enough countries sign mutual defense agreements with Ukraine. This is the third land grab operation of Russia against Ukraine in the last 15 years.

Cliffs notes of current battlefield:




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Full assessment of the war to this point. Very good but very long. Erroneous emote.

Full Thread:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1511528337998442503.html

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You have to read it with the Gru accent.

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Polaris75 said:

Good news keyboard warriors.


Ukraine has been pretty picky from the start, if you don't have military experience they don't want you. If you do you are thrown in with a foreign squad, not with the Ukraine military for the most part.
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What country is taking the lead on ending this war? Or is everyone just sending more meat grinders to the kitchen?
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BQ78 said:

What country is taking the lead on ending this war? Or is everyone just sending more meat grinders to the kitchen?
Seems like there's no possibility to end it until May 9th at the earliest. Right now Putin is still in control of this disaster.
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P.U.T.U said:

Polaris75 said:

Good news keyboard warriors.


Ukraine has been pretty picky from the start, if you don't have military experience they don't want you. If you do you are thrown in with a foreign squad, not with the Ukraine military for the most part.
Nah, Polaris keeps getting his skull smashed in when his Russian viewpoints are easily contested and disproven over and over. Think this is some snarky way of firing back perhaps. I'll rate it a D- with curve included.

But also yes, The Ukes tried open recruitment but turns out full out, open kinetic warfare is tough for those who have no real experience of being in combat and constant danger. They have been heavily restricting the requirements ever since.
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FriscoKid said:



Good lord I can't imagine being this stupid
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Hungary....corrupted to the russians, as several have already suspected.


https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWar2022/comments/txq7y2/hungary_breaks_with_eu_will_pay_for_russian_gas/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
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But, should you be suspended for being stupid? Kind of like with STV. I like letting people continue to show the world how dumb they really are.
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There has been talk of some questioning the validity of the Russian mindset to kill people and then just leave the bodies out. Surely, no one would ever do that! How stupid, right?

Except it has happened. Multiple times. The largest scale being from the Nazi Einsatzgruppen units of WW2. A bit of a derail but it clarifies the mindset of of what tyrannical forces do when they think they are not going to lose and their actions will not come to light.

Most people think of the gas chambers of the Holocaust but just as many died to literal kill squads. The Einsatzgruppen commandos. Gas chambers were the "Final Solution" as it were. They tried multiple other ways to remove the Jewish population before they came to that though. Including literally trying to kill every single one by simply shooting them. These units would go to an occupied area and systemically exterminate as many untermenschen as they could get their hands on. Gather them up, take them to a field with giant pits and spend all day just shooting them. Ten at a time. Ironically enough, the largest and most famous site was in Ukraine. Babi Yar was the site where over 30000 Jews were murdered in two days. They would take them ten at a time, make them lay on the bodies of the previous ten, and then shot them in the head.

They initially just covered them with dirt and that was that. It would never come to light because they would never lose of course. Then around 1942, when it became apparent that the nazis WERE losing ground they realized how horrible it would look so for over two years they enacted SonderAktion 1005. A massive effort to go back to all of these killing fields, dig up the bodies and then literally grind them up and spread them to hide the evidence. Thousands were part of this effort. They were only partially successful of course. They only did this AFTER they realized they were losing and would no longer control these areas. Before that, they had not a care in the world. It also generated the single most powerful image I have ever seen in my life. This photo completely changed my way of thinking when I first saw it as a kid. This image is of a Jewish woman and her child who were murdered in a field with many others. In Ukraine btw. Also, fun fact. The vast majority of the Einsatzgruppen? Survived the war and simply got away with it. Less than a hundred were ever even investigated if I recall correctly. And most of those got off with light sentences or none at all.



I mention all of the above because it shows what happens when you think you can't lose. The Russians never thought this war would transpire as it has. Kiev was as good as won in their eyes when they stepped off late February. They also know they have a comms lockdown. It is amazing what some people will do when they think no one is watching or when they think they control the cameras. We all know this. Now just imagine this mindset of butchers in a dirty war in an area full of sub humans....

The Russians did this. Just like they have in other places. Just like other murderous regimes have. They did what they did when they thought they would not get caught. As proven elsewhere by them and others like them.

Face it, it is far easier to see systematic killings by murderous thugs of a nation that already has a history of it multiple times over, versus the Ukes going around and murdering their own citizens. If people believe otherwise, trust me. They are not "asking questions". They are grasping at straws in order to fulfill the reality they have created in their head. They are feeding their bias in such a way that is incredibly skewed from real events and history and painfully obvious to everyone else.

/End derail
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Nothing graphic, but LOL coming from the PM of Slovenia. Add an h to the beginning. Not sure if it would be allowed.

ttps://twitter.com/JJansaSDS/status/1511685803625357312
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Robk said:

Nothing graphic, but LOL coming from the PM of Slovenia. Add an h to the beginning. Not sure if it would be allowed.

ttps://twitter.com/JJansaSDS/status/1511685803625357312

Basically this.


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PJYoung said:

Robk said:

Nothing graphic, but LOL coming from the PM of Slovenia. Add an h to the beginning. Not sure if it would be allowed.

ttps://twitter.com/JJansaSDS/status/1511685803625357312

Basically this.



Yes except showing what came first, lol.
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Ewwwww
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Current sitch has US reconsidering F-16 deal with Turkey.

Full Thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1511757560763797508.html

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Eliminatus said:

P.U.T.U said:

Polaris75 said:

Good news keyboard warriors.


Ukraine has been pretty picky from the start, if you don't have military experience they don't want you. If you do you are thrown in with a foreign squad, not with the Ukraine military for the most part.
Nah, Polaris keeps getting his skull smashed in when his Russian viewpoints are easily contested and disproven over and over. Think this is some snarky way of firing back perhaps. I'll rate it a D- with curve included.

But also yes, The Ukes tried open recruitment but turns out full out, open kinetic warfare is tough for those who have no real experience of being in combat and constant danger. They have been heavily restricting the requirements ever since.

The state department thought Russia would have this war over with in 72 hours. Go to the start of this thread, so did most.

Russia had parade uniforms with them, they thought were going to be welcome as liberators. After decades of being told how powerful the Russia military is and how they have state of the art weaponry, I am little amazed at what I have seen.

Again, even Trump thought Putin was a genius for going after "undervalued" real estate.

I still think Russia gets the real estate (east side) they want just not as cheap as they thought. Ukraine unfortunately is paying a heavier price than Russia and that is sad, war is hell for the families of the host more so than the invaders.

Killing Russia soldiers not so bad and watching the tanks getting blown away or helicopters shot down is too bad, shouldn't have invaded.

I definitely not pulling for Russia but I am pulling for a ceasefire for the harvest of grain that is needed around the world.

This thread is for open discussion, not strategies like the one you started.
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The letter.

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