****Kyle Rittenhouse Trial-Day 6****

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aggiehawg
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LostTexasBoy said:

I find it odd that the video would show GG arm half blown off but now they won't show any of the autopsy pics or reports. At least on the feed I'm watching.
I was seeing the autopsy pics on Branca's feed.
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Fightin TX Aggie said:

I still cannot get over the prosecution ending yesterday by playing a loop of deranged Rosenbaum yelling "shoot me, n-word!!"
I remember watching that live and it made me laugh because it was coming from some tiny bald white dude who was out there supposedly to be protesting racism........lol.

Then I saw him run off and come to find out in the morning he was one of the deceased.
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LostTexasBoy said:

I find it odd that the video would show GG arm half blown off but now they won't show any of the autopsy pics or reports. At least on the feed I'm watching.

The Rekieta Law feed is showing it.
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aggiehawg said:

LostTexasBoy said:

I find it odd that the video would show GG arm half blown off but now they won't show any of the autopsy pics or reports. At least on the feed I'm watching.
I was seeing the autopsy pics on Branca's feed.


Same on the Rekeita feed. Looked up and saw dead Huber.
LostTexasBoy
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Thanks
aggiehawg
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Moving onto Rosenbaum's autopsy. His clothes were off and his hands bagged for evidence.

Several gun shot wounds. Took X-rays before autopsy.
aggiehawg
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Now discussing stippling.
aggiehawg
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Branca:

Quote:

Kraus: What is stippling?

More than bullet comes out of gun. Unburned powder, soot, etc. We look for evidence on body that allows us to estimate distance of muzzle to surface of body.
On contact wound, muzzle stamp. Out to a certain distance soot, after a foot or so, no soot.
ABATTBQ11
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Is this where the defense points out that Rosenbaum had extreme stippling and was really close on cross?
hbtheduce
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Gunshot through the hand.....

Reaching for that gun there bipolar pedo boy?
GarryowenAg
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ABATTBQ11 said:

Is this where the defense points out that Rosenbaum had extreme stippling and was really close on cross?
The ME mentioned semi-stripling as well.
aggiehawg
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Again, the bullet did not exit, was lodged in his buttock. (Insert Forrest Gump voice here.)
aggiehawg
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Pelvic shot was not an immediately lethal wound.
ABATTBQ11
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So ME says Rosenbaum was within 4'. That's arms length and rifle length if it's held out...
aggiehawg
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Soot on his hand? Hand needs to be pretty close, then.
TRADUCTOR
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Sorta evil looking, like an evil cookie making keebler dwarf. Did not want to see that.
ABATTBQ11
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So he got shot through the hand reaching for the gun?
AggiePetro07
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aggiehawg said:

Pelvic shot was not an immediately lethal wound.


Not immediately, but imminent. Pelvic girdle has a ton blood vessels.
aggiehawg
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Hand was a "close range gunshot wound." Due to the amount of soot on the palm.
OnlyForNow
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How was the path of the bullet/shot in the hand upwards, but the bullet ricocheted off the ground and then entered the left thigh?

Dirty_Mike&the_boys
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Headwound was just a superficial graze
aggiehawg
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sicandtiredTXN said:

Headwound was just a superficial graze
But was back to front, according to Kelley.
LostTexasBoy
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Wasn't it the state's case that Rosenbaum was not close and/or not reaching for the gun? Why are they taking this line of questioning? I feel like once again this only further supports Kyle's claim of self-defense.
aggietony2010
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LostTexasBoy said:

Wasn't it the state's case that Rosenbaum was not close and/or not reaching for the gun? Why are they taking this line of questioning? I feel like once again this only further supports Kyle's claim of self-defense.


They're trying to convince the jury that Kyle fired one too many times and it's the bullet through the back that killed him.
AggiePetro07
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aggiehawg said:

sicandtiredTXN said:

Headwound was just a superficial graze
But was back to front, according to Kelley.


How can you tell direction of a graze wound?
aggiehawg
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Again, another bullet that went through the body but no exit, bullet still lodged inside and under the skin.
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aggietony2010 said:

LostTexasBoy said:

Wasn't it the state's case that Rosenbaum was not close and/or not reaching for the gun? Why are they taking this line of questioning? I feel like once again this only further supports Kyle's claim of self-defense.


They're trying to convince the jury that Kyle fired one too many times and it's the bullet through the back that killed him.
Didn't KR get four shots off in a second or so?
aggiehawg
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Gilligan said:

aggietony2010 said:

LostTexasBoy said:

Wasn't it the state's case that Rosenbaum was not close and/or not reaching for the gun? Why are they taking this line of questioning? I feel like once again this only further supports Kyle's claim of self-defense.


They're trying to convince the jury that Kyle fired one too many times and it's the bullet through the back that killed him.
Didn't KR get four shots off in a second or so?
.75 of a second.
TRADUCTOR
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So Kyle had not raised the barrel when pedo reached for the barrel. Bullet trajectory was down thru the hand hit pavement and bounced fragmenting into his leg. Pedo was definitely attacking.
aggietony2010
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Gilligan said:

aggietony2010 said:

LostTexasBoy said:

Wasn't it the state's case that Rosenbaum was not close and/or not reaching for the gun? Why are they taking this line of questioning? I feel like once again this only further supports Kyle's claim of self-defense.


They're trying to convince the jury that Kyle fired one too many times and it's the bullet through the back that killed him.
Didn't KR get four shots off in a second or so?


Yep. That's why they're using slowed down video. Trying to make it seem like it took much longer than it did.
LostTexasBoy
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aggietony2010 said:

LostTexasBoy said:

Wasn't it the state's case that Rosenbaum was not close and/or not reaching for the gun? Why are they taking this line of questioning? I feel like once again this only further supports Kyle's claim of self-defense.


They're trying to convince the jury that Kyle fired one too many times and it's the bullet through the back that killed him.
I feel like this is easy to refute. First, the four shots were fired in very quick succession. Secondly, basically every cop and self-defense expert will opine that you keep firing until the threat is fully neutralized. There are countless videos of subjects being shot multiple times and it not phasing them at all. Just seems like another lazy attempt to throw **** at the wall to see if it sticks.
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aggiehawg said:

sicandtiredTXN said:

Headwound was just a superficial graze
But was back to front, according to Kelley.
This is sounding like Rosenbaum ran upon him and reached for the weapon got a thru and thru that hit the thigh and pelvis which spun the deceased around and he crumbled and the second shot grazed his noggin and then the third gutted him.

Mind you all this is happening in a split second
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aggiehawg
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Left hand. Lots of soot on the inside of the fingers.
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aggietony2010 said:

LostTexasBoy said:

Wasn't it the state's case that Rosenbaum was not close and/or not reaching for the gun? Why are they taking this line of questioning? I feel like once again this only further supports Kyle's claim of self-defense.


They're trying to convince the jury that Kyle fired one too many times and it's the bullet through the back that killed him.


I have to wonder how many people ever buy this when it's argued. In the span of a second or two, there's no way to assess a threat and decide if you should keep shooting. I think any reasonable person would come to the conclusion that it "happened so fast" that such a judgement was impossible.
aggietony2010
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LostTexasBoy said:

aggietony2010 said:

LostTexasBoy said:

Wasn't it the state's case that Rosenbaum was not close and/or not reaching for the gun? Why are they taking this line of questioning? I feel like once again this only further supports Kyle's claim of self-defense.


They're trying to convince the jury that Kyle fired one too many times and it's the bullet through the back that killed him.
I feel like this is easy to refute. First, the four shots were fired in very quick succession. Secondly, basically every cop and self-defense expert will opine that you keep firing until the threat is fully neutralized. There are countless videos of subjects being shot multiple times and it not phasing them at all. Just seems like another lazy attempt to throw **** at the wall to see if it sticks.


Absolutely. I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying that's what they seem to be working towards.
 
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