Salute The Marines said:

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Telling businesses they can enact their own mandates doesn't violate the court order. Punishing them if they don't it because of the rule does.

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Ummm this was not encouraging anything.....u know that the message is clear....the executive is running things.

ignore the courts. **** the constitution and checks and balances.

but u would be 100% okay with that cause ur okay with fascism as long as it is in line with ur beliefs.

Remember when Kamala and company proudly touted there was no way they'd consider taking any Trump backed vaccine....yeah.....

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Remember when Kamala and company proudly touted there was no way they'd consider taking any Trump backed vaccine....yeah.....

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Pepperidge farm 'members

Ags4DaWin said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Telling businesses they can enact their own mandates doesn't violate the court order. Punishing them if they don't it because of the rule does.

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Ummm this was not encouraging anything.....u know that the message is clear....the executive is running things.

ignore the courts. **** the constitution and checks and balances.

but u would be 100% okay with that cause ur okay with fascism as long as it is in line with ur beliefs.

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So the White House and Osha will be fining businesses in the 5th circuit jurisdiction if they don't comply? Is that your position?

Salute The Marines said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Telling businesses they can enact their own mandates doesn't violate the court order. Punishing them if they don't it because of the rule does.

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Ummm this was not encouraging anything.....u know that the message is clear....the executive is running things.

ignore the courts. **** the constitution and checks and balances.

but u would be 100% okay with that cause ur okay with fascism as long as it is in line with ur beliefs.

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So the White House and Osha will be fining businesses in the 5th circuit jurisdiction if they don't comply? Is that your position?

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The White House spokesperson LITERALLY told businesses to ignore a decision of the 5th Circuit.

Take that as you will.

NOTE: I didn't make ANY comments about the vaccine. Only about the executive branch's opinion of a judicial branch's decision.

The White House can collectively go **** themselves. After all the shrieking and mountains made out of mole hills with Trump, they want to be actual authoritarians. What losers.

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Salute The Marines said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Telling businesses they can enact their own mandates doesn't violate the court order. Punishing them if they don't it because of the rule does.

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Ummm this was not encouraging anything.....u know that the message is clear....the executive is running things.

ignore the courts. **** the constitution and checks and balances.

but u would be 100% okay with that cause ur okay with fascism as long as it is in line with ur beliefs.

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So the White House and Osha will be fining businesses in the 5th circuit jurisdiction if they don't comply? Is that your position?

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The White House spokesperson LITERALLY told businesses to ignore a decision of the 5th Circuit.

Take that as you will.

NOTE: I didn't make ANY comments about the vaccine. Only about the executive branch's opinion of a judicial branch's decision.

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The 5th circuit's order does not prevent businesses from mandating a vaccine.

Ag with kids said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Telling businesses they can enact their own mandates doesn't violate the court order. Punishing them if they don't it because of the rule does.

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Ummm this was not encouraging anything.....u know that the message is clear....the executive is running things.

ignore the courts. **** the constitution and checks and balances.

but u would be 100% okay with that cause ur okay with fascism as long as it is in line with ur beliefs.

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So the White House and Osha will be fining businesses in the 5th circuit jurisdiction if they don't comply? Is that your position?

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The White House spokesperson LITERALLY told businesses to ignore a decision of the 5th Circuit.

Take that as you will.

NOTE: I didn't make ANY comments about the vaccine. Only about the executive branch's opinion of a judicial branch's decision.

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That's not technically correct. Companies ordering vax doesn't violate order.

Goes along with plan all along. Get companies to do your bidding knowing courts would strike down a mandate

MindofCarlos said:

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ElKabong said:

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White House tells businesses to proceed with vaccine mandate despite court-ordered pause

The White House on Monday said businesses should move forward with President Joe Biden's vaccine and testing requirements for private businesses, despite a federal appeals court ordering a temporary halt to the rules.

"People should not wait," White House Deputy Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre told reporters during a briefing. "They should continue to move forward and make sure they're getting their workplace vaccinated."

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit, considered one of the most conservative appellate courts in the country, halted the requirements Saturday pending review, writing that "the petitions give cause to believe there are grave statutory and constitutional issues with the Mandate."

The Biden administration has until Monday evening to respond.

The court-ordered pause came a day after the requirements went into effect, starting the countdown for businesses with 100 or more employees to ensure their staff have received the shots required for full vaccination by Jan. 4. After that date, unvaccinated workers must submit a negative Covid-19 test weekly to enter the workplace. All unvaccinated workers must start wearing face masks indoors at their workplaces starting Dec. 5.

The Republican attorneys general in Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina and Utah, as well as several companies, requested the pause. They argue that the requirements exceed the authority of the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, which will enforce the mandates, and amount to an unconstitutional delegation of power to the executive branch by Congress.

Republican attorneys general in at least 26 states have challenged Biden's vaccine and testing requirements in five different U.S. appeals courts since last Friday. The Republican National Committee said it has also challenged the requirements in the D.C. Court of Appeals.

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Their position is clear and consistent. They want private businesses to have employees vaccinated. This release is an advisory not a warning if a private business chooses not to while their is an injunction.

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They can take their position and shove it.

They have no right to have any position regarding whether or not I take any vaccine.

They have no right to decide whether or not I can earn a living to feed my children!

The elitist scum who have decided that they are God and can dictate what natural rights I can and can't have can kiss my big fat white ass.

Salute The Marines said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Telling businesses they can enact their own mandates doesn't violate the court order. Punishing them if they don't it because of the rule does.

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Ummm this was not encouraging anything.....u know that the message is clear....the executive is running things.

ignore the courts. **** the constitution and checks and balances.

but u would be 100% okay with that cause ur okay with fascism as long as it is in line with ur beliefs.

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So the White House and Osha will be fining businesses in the 5th circuit jurisdiction if they don't comply? Is that your position?

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The White House spokesperson LITERALLY told businesses to ignore a decision of the 5th Circuit.

Take that as you will.

NOTE: I didn't make ANY comments about the vaccine. Only about the executive branch's opinion of a judicial branch's decision.

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The 5th circuit's order does not prevent businesses from mandating a vaccine.

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Of course not.

Businesses, at least in many states, are free to do implement all sorts of policies that they want to implement.

I'm sure that the Executive Branch applying political pressure like this would have ZERO impact on corporate policies...

BMX Bandit said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Telling businesses they can enact their own mandates doesn't violate the court order. Punishing them if they don't it because of the rule does.

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Ummm this was not encouraging anything.....u know that the message is clear....the executive is running things.

ignore the courts. **** the constitution and checks and balances.

but u would be 100% okay with that cause ur okay with fascism as long as it is in line with ur beliefs.

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So the White House and Osha will be fining businesses in the 5th circuit jurisdiction if they don't comply? Is that your position?

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The White House spokesperson LITERALLY told businesses to ignore a decision of the 5th Circuit.

Take that as you will.

NOTE: I didn't make ANY comments about the vaccine. Only about the executive branch's opinion of a judicial branch's decision.

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That's not technically correct. Companies ordering vax doesn't violate order.

Goes along with plan all along. Get companies to do your bidding knowing courts would strike down a mandate

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I was going with your second point. Companies ordering vax don't violate order. But the Exec Branch telling them to do it gives them cover....

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Salute The Marines said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Telling businesses they can enact their own mandates doesn't violate the court order. Punishing them if they don't it because of the rule does.

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Ummm this was not encouraging anything.....u know that the message is clear....the executive is running things.

ignore the courts. **** the constitution and checks and balances.

but u would be 100% okay with that cause ur okay with fascism as long as it is in line with ur beliefs.

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So the White House and Osha will be fining businesses in the 5th circuit jurisdiction if they don't comply? Is that your position?

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The White House spokesperson LITERALLY told businesses to ignore a decision of the 5th Circuit.

Take that as you will.

NOTE: I didn't make ANY comments about the vaccine. Only about the executive branch's opinion of a judicial branch's decision.

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The 5th circuit's order does not prevent businesses from mandating a vaccine.

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Of course not.

Businesses, at least in many states, are free to do implement all sorts of policies that they want to implement.

I'm sure that the Executive Branch applying political pressure like this would have ZERO impact on corporate policies...

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The 5th circuit order also doesn't prevent the executive branch from applying political pressure to businesses to enact a mandate.

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If this surprises you, take a look around. Picking and choosing which laws to obey has become an Olympic sport.

And we do nothing..

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They call that Executive over reach. Aka dictatorship. Wars have been fought over that.

Salute The Marines said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Telling businesses they can enact their own mandates doesn't violate the court order. Punishing them if they don't it because of the rule does.

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Ummm this was not encouraging anything.....u know that the message is clear....the executive is running things.

ignore the courts. **** the constitution and checks and balances.

but u would be 100% okay with that cause ur okay with fascism as long as it is in line with ur beliefs.

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So the White House and Osha will be fining businesses in the 5th circuit jurisdiction if they don't comply? Is that your position?

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The White House spokesperson LITERALLY told businesses to ignore a decision of the 5th Circuit.

Take that as you will.

NOTE: I didn't make ANY comments about the vaccine. Only about the executive branch's opinion of a judicial branch's decision.

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The 5th circuit's order does not prevent businesses from mandating a vaccine.

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Of course not.

Businesses, at least in many states, are free to do implement all sorts of policies that they want to implement.

I'm sure that the Executive Branch applying political pressure like this would have ZERO impact on corporate policies...

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The 5th circuit order also doesn't prevent the executive branch from applying political pressure to businesses to enact a mandate.

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Its legal.

Is it coersion?

Is it fascism by proxy?

Yes and yes.

But like I said, fascists like u are okay with coercion and government interference as long as its the kind of fascism you like.

Fascists like you despise personal freedom and love them some coercion.

Get the jab or lose the ability to work and feed your family. Join the party or lose the ability to work and feed your family. Right up your alley.

The next step is "Join the party or go to jail."

You'll be okay with that too.

God this new world is trash and there is never going back.

Ags4DaWin said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Telling businesses they can enact their own mandates doesn't violate the court order. Punishing them if they don't it because of the rule does.

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Ummm this was not encouraging anything.....u know that the message is clear....the executive is running things.

ignore the courts. **** the constitution and checks and balances.

but u would be 100% okay with that cause ur okay with fascism as long as it is in line with ur beliefs.

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So the White House and Osha will be fining businesses in the 5th circuit jurisdiction if they don't comply? Is that your position?

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The White House spokesperson LITERALLY told businesses to ignore a decision of the 5th Circuit.

Take that as you will.

NOTE: I didn't make ANY comments about the vaccine. Only about the executive branch's opinion of a judicial branch's decision.

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The 5th circuit's order does not prevent businesses from mandating a vaccine.

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Of course not.

Businesses, at least in many states, are free to do implement all sorts of policies that they want to implement.

I'm sure that the Executive Branch applying political pressure like this would have ZERO impact on corporate policies...

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The 5th circuit order also doesn't prevent the executive branch from applying political pressure to businesses to enact a mandate.

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Its legal.

Is it coersion?

Is it fascism by proxy?

Yes and yes.

But like I said, fascists like u are okay with coercion and government interference as long as its the kind of fascism you like.

Fascists like you despise personal freedom and love them some coercion.

Get the jab or lose the ability to work and feed your family. Join the party or lose the ability to work and feed your family. Right up your alley.

The next step is "Join the party or go to jail."

You'll be okay with that too.

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Businesses should be free to hire and fire whoever they want for whatever reason they want.

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Telling businesses they can enact their own mandates doesn't violate the court order. Punishing them if they don't it because of the rule does.

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It's post like this that make me more than question your honesty when saying you don't support mandates.

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Salute The Marines said:

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Telling businesses they can enact their own mandates doesn't violate the court order. Punishing them if they don't it because of the rule does.

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It's post like this that make me more than question your honesty when saying you don't support mandates.

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Actually understanding what the court order does and doesn't do means I support mandates?

Can you imagine if the roles were reversed and Trump was doing this? Literally Hitler.

Fightin_Aggie said:

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MindofCarlos said:

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ElKabong said:

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White House tells businesses to proceed with vaccine mandate despite court-ordered pause

The White House on Monday said businesses should move forward with President Joe Biden's vaccine and testing requirements for private businesses, despite a federal appeals court ordering a temporary halt to the rules.

"People should not wait," White House Deputy Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre told reporters during a briefing. "They should continue to move forward and make sure they're getting their workplace vaccinated."

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit, considered one of the most conservative appellate courts in the country, halted the requirements Saturday pending review, writing that "the petitions give cause to believe there are grave statutory and constitutional issues with the Mandate."

The Biden administration has until Monday evening to respond.

The court-ordered pause came a day after the requirements went into effect, starting the countdown for businesses with 100 or more employees to ensure their staff have received the shots required for full vaccination by Jan. 4. After that date, unvaccinated workers must submit a negative Covid-19 test weekly to enter the workplace. All unvaccinated workers must start wearing face masks indoors at their workplaces starting Dec. 5.

The Republican attorneys general in Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina and Utah, as well as several companies, requested the pause. They argue that the requirements exceed the authority of the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, which will enforce the mandates, and amount to an unconstitutional delegation of power to the executive branch by Congress.

Republican attorneys general in at least 26 states have challenged Biden's vaccine and testing requirements in five different U.S. appeals courts since last Friday. The Republican National Committee said it has also challenged the requirements in the D.C. Court of Appeals.

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Their position is clear and consistent. They want private businesses to have employees vaccinated. This release is an advisory not a warning if a private business chooses not to while their is an injunction.

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They can take their position and shove it.

They have no right to have any position regarding whether or not I take any vaccine.

They have no right to decide whether or not I can earn a living to feed my children!

The elitist scum who have decided that they are God and can dictate what natural rights I can and can't have can kiss my big fat white ass.

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You're entitled to feel how you feel about the decision. However vaccines have been mandated before and there is precedent to have a vaccine mandated as part of law factually speaking. They are not setting any law or infringing on ones complete right to work and feed their children, that's an extreme suggestion/narrative. I'll refrain from the profane commentary in your post.

I guess the 5th circuit needs to relocate to Hawaii in order for its rulings to matter.

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I guess the 5th circuit needs to relocate to Hawaii in order for its rulings to matter.

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How is the administration violating the order?

The vaccine mandate will be stopped; democrats will be routed and forever despised after this.

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YouBet said:

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I guess the 5th circuit needs to relocate to Hawaii in order for its rulings to matter.

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How is the administration violating the order?

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Maybe not directly, but they are sticking their middle finger right in the 5th Circuit's face and telling employers to vax away despite what any court says.

I noticed Mr. SaFE & eFFectiVE vaCcine absent from the Gavin Newsome threads.

Huh. Wonder why?

Salute The Marines said:

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YouBet said:

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I guess the 5th circuit needs to relocate to Hawaii in order for its rulings to matter.

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How is the administration violating the order?

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Don't know that they are but the undermining of courts ruling against Democrats is par for the course with the left and it's disregard for law and order.

Im Gipper said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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YouBet said:

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I guess the 5th circuit needs to relocate to Hawaii in order for its rulings to matter.

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How is the administration violating the order?

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Maybe not directly, but they are sticking their middle finger right in the 5th Circuit's face and telling employers to vax away despite what any court says.

I noticed Mr. SaFE & eFFectiVE vaCcine absent from the Gavin Newsome threads.

Huh. Wonder why?

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I think people are severely misunderstanding their position in that message. They from the beginning have been clear, they want businesses to enact mandates regardless of the law. They simply reminded businesses they don't need a law to proceed with the plan they set forth under the OHSA. As for now they want all are aligned to proceed as planned and will fight in courts for those who don't won't to proceed.

Im Gipper said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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YouBet said:

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I guess the 5th circuit needs to relocate to Hawaii in order for its rulings to matter.

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How is the administration violating the order?

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Maybe not directly, but they are sticking their middle finger right in the 5th Circuit's face and telling employers to vax away despite what any court says.

I noticed Mr. SaFE & eFFectiVE vaCcine absent from the Gavin Newsome threads.

Huh. Wonder why?

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That's a lot of words to acknowledge that they aren't violating the order. Thanks!

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That's a lot of words to acknowledge that they aren't violating the order. Thanks!

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Luckily for you, being a shill for O'Biden and the Vaxxx mandates doesn't take many words.

I' consistently against mandates and loathe Biden. But make up policy for positions for other posters if you feel it helps your argument.

Salute The Marines said:

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Im Gipper said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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YouBet said:

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I guess the 5th circuit needs to relocate to Hawaii in order for its rulings to matter.

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How is the administration violating the order?

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Maybe not directly, but they are sticking their middle finger right in the 5th Circuit's face and telling employers to vax away despite what any court says.

I noticed Mr. SaFE & eFFectiVE vaCcine absent from the Gavin Newsome threads.

Huh. Wonder why?

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That's a lot of words to acknowledge that they aren't violating the order. Thanks!

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Well, they ARE telling the 5th Circuit to piss off...

But, you're getting what you want, so who cares about that.

For someone who is against mandates you sure are supportive of mandates...

How are they telling the 5th Circuit to "piss off"? Be specific. The ruling stayed the OSHA rule requiring vaccine mandates for businesses with 100 employees or more. That rule carries fines up to $14,000 per violation. Can you provide the board with some examples of OSHA ignoring the court order and levying fines or even inspecting violating businesses?

Salute The Marines said:

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How are they telling the 5th Circuit to "piss off"? Be specific. The ruling stayed the OSHA rule requiring vaccine mandates for businesses with 100 employees or more. That rule carries fines up to $14,000 per violation. Can you provide the board with some examples of OSHA ignoring the court order and levying fines or even inspecting violating businesses?

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You are stretching harder than Jane Fonda.

FriscoKid said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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How are they telling the 5th Circuit to "piss off"? Be specific. The ruling stayed the OSHA rule requiring vaccine mandates for businesses with 100 employees or more. That rule carries fines up to $14,000 per violation. Can you provide the board with some examples of OSHA ignoring the court order and levying fines or even inspecting violating businesses?

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You are stretching harder than Jane Fonda.

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Citing the actual contents of the rule nd subsequent court order is "stretching"?

I love this board.

Salute The Marines said:

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How are they telling the 5th Circuit to "piss off"? Be specific. The ruling stayed the OSHA rule requiring vaccine mandates for businesses with 100 employees or more. That rule carries fines up to $14,000 per violation. Can you provide the board with some examples of OSHA ignoring the court order and levying fines or even inspecting violating businesses?

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When did I say OSHA ignored the court order? Hint...I didn't.

Salute The Marines said:

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FriscoKid said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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How are they telling the 5th Circuit to "piss off"? Be specific. The ruling stayed the OSHA rule requiring vaccine mandates for businesses with 100 employees or more. That rule carries fines up to $14,000 per violation. Can you provide the board with some examples of OSHA ignoring the court order and levying fines or even inspecting violating businesses?

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You are stretching harder than Jane Fonda.

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Citing the actual contents of the rule nd subsequent court order is "stretching"?

I love this board.

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Moving goalposts so it's easier for you to goaltend for mandates is so cute...