****Kyle Rittenhouse Trial-Day Five****

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LostTexasBoy
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I can't believe they are taking the stance that GG was trying to surrender and was innocent and that Kyle was the aggressor. Good thing there is a ton of videos of this.
MouthBQ98
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What the? Why do these activist nuts care about the rotten house case?
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Mr. AGSPRT04 said:

Claims Kyle tried to shoot him while his hands were up
Absolutely a lie. Video proves this is a lie.
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"I'm not capable of taking the life of another. It goes against a life-long ethical code I live by."

So why were you carrying?
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Mr. AGSPRT04 said:

Claims Kyle tried to shoot him while his hands were up


Is defense going to be able to question him while stepping through the existing video? Which shows him pretending to surrender then pulling his gun?

If so.... awkwarrrd
pacecar02
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LOLOLOL

I was never trying to kill the defendant


This dude is soooooo fake
Corn Pop
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"I wasn't trying to kill him"

You don't point a gun at a person unless that is your only intent.
Fightin TX Aggie
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So, Kyle told one arm that he was going to turn himself in to the police, and one arm decides to attack him anyway?

Brilliant.
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Defense attorneys have to be licking their chops right now gearing up for cross. My god.
P.H. Dexippus
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"Why didn't you shoot him first since you had a gun?"

"That's not who I am" -tears-
"[When I was a kid,] I wanted to be a pirate. Thank God no one took me seriously and scheduled me for eye removal and peg leg surgery."- Bill Maher
LostTexasBoy
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He's going to get destroyed on cross
AggieUSMC
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Kyle never re racked his riffle nor did he ever point his weapon at Gage until after he advanced on him.
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Corn Pop said:

"I wasn't trying to kill him"

You don't point a gun at a person unless that is your only intent.


That's not true, the intent of shooting someone in self defense to stop them effectively. But you need to be aware that there is a likelihood they will be killed, or "destroyed" per the firearm rules.
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Corn Pop said:

"I wasn't trying to kill him"

You don't point a gun at a person unless that is your only intent.
He later said his biggest regret is not killing him.
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schwack schwack said:

Was he always armed?
Not anymore.
Corn Pop
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File5 said:

Corn Pop said:

"I wasn't trying to kill him"

You don't point a gun at a person unless that is your only intent.


That's not true, the intent of shooting someone in self defense to stop them effectively. But you need to be aware that there is a likelihood they will be killed, or "destroyed" per the firearm rules.


Right. You may hold up a gun as a deterrent but if they do not stop a death is going to occur.
AggieUSMC
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Dude, his arm got farked up!
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GG is like t.u. He looks great in the first half, but will eventually get mauled to death in the second.
AggieUSMC
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Just a coincidence the defense asks for a break right after they show the nasty part I'm sure.
The Fife
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LostTexasBoy said:

He's going to get destroyed on cross
pacecar02
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He's trying to be cute with his droning on rather than just being plain in stating what happened
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MouthBQ98 said:

What the? Why do these activist nuts care about the rotten house case?


I think they care about it because it is a good example of what a community can do to push back against riots caused by race instigation a such as the Blake shooting. If Rittenhouse gets off then it is a playbook for how to deal with things like that moving forward (meaning get out and defend your property, and help others!)
IndividualFreedom
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I remember watching the Kenosha/Rittenhouse live stream.... The fella I was watching was right there for it all!!! I can not remember his name.

Do things get nasty no matter how this is settled?
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Quote:

MouthBQ98 said:

What the? Why do these activist nuts care about the rotten house case?


The Left with the help of progressive DA's wants to "own" the streets. They honestly believe that only they have a right to the streets when protesting/rioting. They want to intimidate anyone that might want to defend property from their destruction. These riots are about intimidating political opponents.
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Should be relatively easy for the defense to take this guy apart. First, he was the aggressor charging in on a guy with a gun that was on his backside, 2nd, he pulled his pistol and while he feigned surrender ultimately pointed it at Kyle prior to Kyle shooting him; 3rd he texted or told a friend afterwards that he wished he would have killed Kyle when he had the chance (I'm hoping the defense has this info). Finally, Kyle's right to self defense isn't forfeited just because Grosskreutz thought he shot someone earlier.

Also, him saying he's "incapable of killing someone" is a joke when you walk around with a gun and then pull it on someone.
Aggies2009
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4stringAg said:

Should be relatively easy for the defense to take this guy apart. First, he was the aggressor charging in on a guy with a gun that was on his backside, 2nd, he pulled his pistol and while he feigned surrender ultimately pointed it at Kyle prior to Kyle shooting him; 3rd he texted or told a friend afterwards that he wished he would have killed Kyle when he had the chance (I'm hoping the defense has this info). Finally, Kyle's right to self defense isn't forfeited just because Grosskreutz thought he shot someone earlier.

Also, him saying he's "incapable of killing someone" is a joke when you walk around with a gun and then pull it on someone.
And then say, "My only regret is not killing the kid and hesitating to pull my gun and empty the clip into him".
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Aggies2009 said:

4stringAg said:

Should be relatively easy for the defense to take this guy apart. First, he was the aggressor charging in on a guy with a gun that was on his backside, 2nd, he pulled his pistol and while he feigned surrender ultimately pointed it at Kyle prior to Kyle shooting him; 3rd he texted or told a friend afterwards that he wished he would have killed Kyle when he had the chance (I'm hoping the defense has this info). Finally, Kyle's right to self defense isn't forfeited just because Grosskreutz thought he shot someone earlier.

Also, him saying he's "incapable of killing someone" is a joke when you walk around with a gun and then pull it on someone.
And then say, "My only regret is not killing the kid and hesitating to pull my gun and empty the clip into him".
Cross on this guy is going to be interesting.
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I wonder if the night would have ended differently had Rittenhouse been honest with some people after shooting Rosenbaum. Immediately after shooting Rosenbaum, he called his friend reporting he shot someone. He ran into his "friendly" (or associate, as friend may suggest something deeper) medic helper gentleman (whose name I forget) saying he didn't shoot anyone but needs help. Tells Grosskreutz he didn't do it and that he's (going/working) with the police. He could have told one of the two he had shot someone in self defense, especially the guy he previously borrowed supplies from, and they could help escort him towards safety and help turn him over to police versus fleeing the scene.
P.H. Dexippus
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we're back
"[When I was a kid,] I wanted to be a pirate. Thank God no one took me seriously and scheduled me for eye removal and peg leg surgery."- Bill Maher
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Ag_Wolverine said:

I wonder if the night would have ended differently had Rittenhouse been honest with some people after shooting Rosenbaum. Immediately after shooting Rosenbaum, he called his friend reporting he shot someone. He ran into his "friendly" (or associate, as friend may suggest something deeper) medic helper gentleman (whose name I forget) saying he didn't shoot anyone but needs help. Tells Grosskreutz he didn't do it and that he's (going/working) with the police. He could have told one of the two he had shot someone in self defense, especially the guy he previously borrowed supplies from, and they could help escort him towards safety and help turn him over to police versus fleeing the scene.
I have to admit that this series of threads has generated some pretty solid fan-fiction.
BlackLab
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Just tuned in. Is gage a pole smoker?
P.H. Dexippus
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hearsay coming
"[When I was a kid,] I wanted to be a pirate. Thank God no one took me seriously and scheduled me for eye removal and peg leg surgery."- Bill Maher
Aggies2009
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None of those things deny him his right to self defense. Nor are they a crime.

Hope that helps.
pacecar02
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Id go hard at Gage


this case aside

If you have 2 people that engage in a a fight and both are willing participants, your not entitled to jack if you lose or are injured.

in this case, lets assume 2 people both have a right to self defense

When you pursue the other I would think you are no longer entitled to that defense

I would go so far as charging Gage for pursuing Kyle and pointing a loaded weapon at someone in retreat
The Fife
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Can we not quote the troll? Blocking users doesn't work when people do that.
 
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