whytho987654 said:

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Captain Pablo said:

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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hbtheduce said:

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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powerbelly said:

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WHEN TF DID I SAY I WOULD FORCE ANYONE TO DO ANYTHING?! You're arguing against a point no one made. I said access to healthcare should be a RIGHT to anyone. I never once said anything about FORCE.

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It requires force if it is a right to anyone.

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So public school teachers and public attorney's are forced laborers. I hope you continue to fight valiantly for their freedom.

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Those are a public option to a private system. You on the other hand want to throw the private heath care system in the trash and make EVERYTHING a public option.

"Lets make all schools and lawyers appointed by the state" is your current logic.

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Republicans love nothing more than putting words into other peoples mouths. I never once said private healthcare would be 'thrown away'.

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Except that it probably would be thrown away. At least if liberals had their way

The plan is to get rid of private insurance. According to liberals, as long as you have private insurance, not everyone has skin in the game. And if the "privileged" do not have skin in the game, then the public option is doomed to failure, or at best, grossly low quality reserved for the poor. And that's not fair

That violates principals of "equity". You, as a liberal, should know this

If everyone has a stake in it, then they will demand quality. And they will get it. A 100% public ally funded, single pay or system will be both high quality and cost effective

Which of course, is laughable

If you cannot grasp this, get Kamala to explain it. She is all about this approach

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Which will lead to the rise of $$$ only clinics. Hospitals will go down the drain and it will create an even more tiered system as people with money will be lining up for the cash clinics and poor go to the run down hospitals.

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Athanasius said:

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I'm a conservative, but I get accused of being a liberal all the time on this board, so...

(no particular order)

• Ending the death penalty
• Protecting and healing the environment (both local and global)
• Protecting human dignity in the workplace (living wage, addressing SEVERE wealth disparity, better parenting support, more worker ownership)
• Fix immigration law to allow for protection of refugees, as well as a healthy ability to find talented workers
• Fixing injustice in criminal sentencing
• Eliminating for-profit prisons
• Address generational wealth accumulation disparities- especially in property ownership
• National Championship for the Ags

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Malibu2 said:

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I find this tribal witch hunt of "you're a liberal, admit it!" amusing.

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