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I know at least one person that is very excited about the number of jabs going up up up.

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That's pretty funny.

The thread hit the German tangent, but following up on the thread title regarding Israel, yikes.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/virus-czar-calls-to-begin-readying-for-eventual-4th-vaccine-dose/

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Israel's national coronavirus czar on Saturday called for the country to begin making preparations to eventually administer fourth doses of the coronavirus vaccine.

"Given that that the virus is here and will continue to be here, we also need to prepare for a fourth injection," Salman Zarka told Kan public radio.

He did not specify when fourth vaccine shots could eventually be administered.

Zarka also said that the next booster shot may be modified to better protect against new variants of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19, such as the highly infectious Delta strain.

"This is our life from now on, in waves," he said.
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"It seems that if we learn the lessons from the fourth wave, we must consider the [possibility of subsequent] waves with the new variants, such as the new one from South America," he said at the time.

"And thinking about this and the waning of the vaccines and the antibodies, it seems every few months it could be once a year or five or six months we'll need another shot."

Israel the first country to officially offer a third dose began its COVID booster campaign on August 1, rolling it out to all those over the age of 60. It then gradually dropped the eligibility age, expanding it last week to everyone age 12 and up who received the second shot at least five months ago.

As of Friday, over 2.5 million Israelis had received the third dose.
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The Health Ministry last week also announced that the "Green Pass" system a document that allows entry into certain gatherings and public places for those who are vaccinated or have recovered from the coronavirus will expire six months after the holder received their second or third dose, hinting that a fourth dose may be administered in six-months time.
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Faustus said:

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policywonk98 said:

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I know at least one person that is very excited about the number of jabs going up up up.

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That's pretty funny.

The thread hit the German tangent, but following up on the thread title regarding Israel, yikes.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/virus-czar-calls-to-begin-readying-for-eventual-4th-vaccine-dose/

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Israel's national coronavirus czar on Saturday called for the country to begin making preparations to eventually administer fourth doses of the coronavirus vaccine.

"Given that that the virus is here and will continue to be here, we also need to prepare for a fourth injection," Salman Zarka told Kan public radio.

He did not specify when fourth vaccine shots could eventually be administered.

Zarka also said that the next booster shot may be modified to better protect against new variants of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19, such as the highly infectious Delta strain.

"This is our life from now on, in waves," he said.
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"It seems that if we learn the lessons from the fourth wave, we must consider the [possibility of subsequent] waves with the new variants, such as the new one from South America," he said at the time.

"And thinking about this and the waning of the vaccines and the antibodies, it seems every few months it could be once a year or five or six months we'll need another shot."

Israel the first country to officially offer a third dose began its COVID booster campaign on August 1, rolling it out to all those over the age of 60. It then gradually dropped the eligibility age, expanding it last week to everyone age 12 and up who received the second shot at least five months ago.

As of Friday, over 2.5 million Israelis had received the third dose.
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The Health Ministry last week also announced that the "Green Pass" system a document that allows entry into certain gatherings and public places for those who are vaccinated or have recovered from the coronavirus will expire six months after the holder received their second or third dose, hinting that a fourth dose may be administered in six-months time.
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Yeah I've seen some breakdowns of the programming for the passports that are electronic and they have room for up to 8 doses.

Try to scan this QR code with the official government APP "Verifica C19"

2/3 pic.twitter.com/2y65c4vsc9

— reversebrain (@reversebrain) October 26, 2021

Now the fake certificate is not recognized anymore (fortunately)

4/N pic.twitter.com/clfYnp8er9

— reversebrain (@reversebrain) October 27, 2021

Hahahahahaha the electronic passports in Europe have already been hacked and broken.

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People no longer seek truth. They just want to thrust their foam finger into the air and claim victory

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Which is what you do as well.

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People no longer seek truth. They just want to thrust their foam finger into the air and claim victory

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Which is what you do as well.

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I care about peer reviewed data, efficacy studies, and the like. I'm content with my search for factual information. I supposed I could rely on podcasts and twitter posts with siren emoji's like others if I didn't particularly care.

LOL at morons STILL thinking this all works and should be continued.

HerpaDerps.

BigRobSA said:

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LOL at morons STILL thinking this all works and should be continued.

HerpaDerps.

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Tell us again how it's a therapeutic despite not being administered post infection. That one's my favorite.

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People no longer seek truth. They just want to thrust their foam finger into the air and claim victory

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Which is what you do as well.

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I care about peer reviewed data, efficacy studies, and the like. I'm content with my search for factual information. I supposed I could rely on podcasts and twitter posts with siren emoji's like others if I didn't particularly care.

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No, as you did here, you give non-responses all with just a tinge of judgy smugness. Even your usage of the gig'em icon belies your methods.

Things as simple as the shot being oversold you have to dance around. Had it been accurately portrayed from the beginning - and I mean in the public media and mind, not buried - then there would be less controversy. The brutal truth is the the uselessness of all the NDIs forced the government's hand. They HAD to find a path to reopen society, but could never say "you know what, we screwed up". So they very much marketed the shot as a panacea. If you can't admit that, you aren't paying attention.

Believe it or not, this board is filled with people just as smart as you, just as educated as you, and just as interested in facts as you. Only most don't deem themselves smugly arrogant.

Oh, and BTW, masking of the general public to mitigate a virus is the biggest mass psychosis in history.

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BigRobSA said:

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LOL at morons STILL thinking this all works and should be continued.

HerpaDerps.

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Tell us again how it's a therapeutic despite not being administered post infection. That one's my favorite.

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Really...the biggest and most pathetic joke is the constant misinformation from FDA / CDC / WHO / Fauci.

Can you blame the "lay person" for being confused / uncertain when our "experts" seem to be shooting from the hip with this vaccine that we were told is a known commodity but they just didnt know how long it would be effective...how the heck was that not known...how did we not know that it provided waning immunity and how do we not know at this point if we need 3 or 4 or 5 or twice a year or quarterly....do we not know how this works in the body?

On that I'll agree 100%. The messaging has been absolutely terrible.

It's really been fun watching those anon twitter users be more directionally correct over the Covid crisis than you.

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It's really been fun watching those anon twitter users be more directionally correct over the Covid crisis than you.

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What have I predicted and been wrong about regarded covid? Or right about? I have yet to make any predictions.

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It's really been fun watching those anon twitter users be more directionally correct over the Covid crisis than you.

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What have I predicted and been wrong about regarded covid? Or right about? I have yet to make any predictions.

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Quite true. Haven't said anything, really.

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It amazes me how the sheep have sold their soul for an experimental therapuetic that requires four shots/boosters in the course of 12 months to be even partially effective - not to mention the potential negative side effects.

Even PT Barnum would be impressed with this sales job.

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It amazes me that educated people don't know what a therapeutic is.

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Call it an injection, shot, jab, stick, whatever. The point still stands. The goal posts keep getting moved.

There's a sucker born every minute.

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My favorite is the talking point that "if everyone would just get vaccinated then we wouldn't have any more variants"....

For a virus with countless animal reservoirs. Covid-19 will never go away. It will mutate for eternity.
Smallpox has no animal reservoirs.

The vaccine should have never been messaged to control spread.

It should simply be messaged with "The covid vaccines are a safe effective way to prevent serious illness and death. Consult with your physician to determine if it is right for you". No mandates no force.

I don't think any rational thinking person on this board would have an issue with that.

So it is a therapeutic and not a vaccine. Maybe if they marketed it as what it is and not what they wish it was they could do that.

There is something very evil with this shot. Its not only about controlling the masses but something much more sinister.

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The vaccine should have never been messaged to control spread.

It should simply be messaged with "The covid vaccines are a safe effective way to prevent serious illness and death. Consult with your physician to determine if it is right for you". No mandates no force.

I don't think any rational thinking person on this board would have an issue with that.

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You coulda led with that months ago.

The consequences of not doing that have led to mistrust and fears of intentful mistruths.

An unintended consequence is lowering trust for ALL vaccines, which is a really bad thing.

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So it is a therapeutic and not a vaccine. Maybe if they marketed it as what it is and not what they wish it was they could do that.

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Again, therapeutics are given after onset of disease to treat disease. There's not a doctor on earth suggesting covid vaccines are to be used to treat the actual disease.

Speaking of Germany, interesting substack:

https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/there-are-no-arguments-on-the-other


On 3 September, noted German virologist and Corona astrologer Christian Drosten made a series of curious remarks on his state radio podcast. He argued that "scientists should … start thinking about whether it's … harmful to argue too strongly for [antigen] testing of the vaccinated," musing that "the vaccinated should also see some advantages from being vaccinated in daily life." He also expressed hope that the vaccines would in the end make Corona indistinguishable from the common cold, and went so far as to say that he personally hoped for multiple post-vaccination infections: "Immunity from infection," he said, "is more robust in the long run. My goal as virologist Drosten, is … I want to have vaccine immunity and then, on top of that, I want to have my first infection, and my second, and my third at some point."...

...I'm often asked what arguments vaccinators like Drosten might bring against our positions. The truth is that the vaccinators don't have coherent arguments anymore; they just have power. You can tell this from the lazy and extremely stupid things that they say in the press all the time: This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated, they explain, so we have to vaccinate everyone to reduce spread, but breakthrough infections don't matter, since the primary purpose of vaccination is to limit severe disease, which is why we have to vaccinate children, who are not at risk of severe disease, in order to reduce spread.

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There is something very evil with this shot. Its not only about controlling the masses but something much more sinister.

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To elaborate, look at who they are "requiring" the shot to be taken

• Military
• Pilots
• Anyone that works in health care
• Healthy people, even those that have already the CV
• Practically the entire nation of Israel

If you wanted to destroy a nation and/or ethnic background, who would you target to eliminate as a potential threat to your plans???

Anybody remember when Rick Perry led an effort to force mandatory HPV vaccines on young girls?

What was the reaction to that?

Anybody remember?

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So it is a therapeutic and not a vaccine. Maybe if they marketed it as what it is and not what they wish it was they could do that.

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Again, therapeutics are given after onset of disease to treat disease. There's not a doctor on earth suggesting covid vaccines are to be used to treat the actual disease.

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Since definitions can be changed, we'll call this a preemptive therapeutic.

Oh, so it's a vaccine?

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Anybody remember when Rick Perry led an effort to force mandatory HPV vaccines on young girls?

What was the reaction to that?

Anybody remember?

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Parents could opt out and there was no penalty for doing so.

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The vaccine should have never been messaged to control spread.

It should simply be messaged with "The covid vaccines are a safe effective way to prevent serious illness and death. Consult with your physician to determine if it is right for you". No mandates no force.

I don't think any rational thinking person on this board would have an issue with that.

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https://defaulttofreedom.com/breaking-nearly-80-of-current-covid-deaths-are-from-fully-vaccinated/

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Oh, so it's a vaccine?

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No, it's a therapeutic.

Vaccines are introduced into the body to produce IMMUNITY to a specific disease.

(Now changed to PROTECTION)


You're a clown taking Fauci's word as Gospel.

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Having or exhibiting healing powers.

Of or relating to the medical treatment of a disease or condition.

Of or pertaining to the healing art; concerned in discovering and applying remedies for diseases; curative.

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Salute The Marines said:

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Oh, so it's a vaccine?

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No, it's a therapeutic.

Vaccines are introduced into the body to produce IMMUNITY to a specific disease.

(Now changed to PROTECTION)


You're a clown taking Fauci's word as Gospel.

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So is your argument that the covid vaccine never provides immunity to anyone ever?

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Oh, so it's a vaccine?

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No, it's a therapeutic.

Vaccines are introduced into the body to produce IMMUNITY to a specific disease.

(Now changed to PROTECTION)


You're a clown taking Fauci's word as Gospel.

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Therapeutics are given after infection and onset of disease. Do you know of any instances where covid vaccines have been recommended for this use?

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HarryJ33tamu said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Oh, so it's a vaccine?

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No, it's a therapeutic.

Vaccines are introduced into the body to produce IMMUNITY to a specific disease.

(Now changed to PROTECTION)


You're a clown taking Fauci's word as Gospel.

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Therapeutics are given after infection and onset of disease. Do you know of any instances where covid vaccines have been recommended for this use?

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Stop embarrassing yourself. The definition was posted above.

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Oh, so it's a vaccine?

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No, it's a therapeutic.

Vaccines are introduced into the body to produce IMMUNITY to a specific disease.

(Now changed to PROTECTION)


You're a clown taking Fauci's word as Gospel.

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Therapeutics are given after infection and onset of disease. Do you know of any instances where covid vaccines have been recommended for this use?

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Stop embarrassing yourself. The definition was posted above.

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Would you mind pointing that out again?

Still waiting. Just looked over the thread again and didn't see it.

Here you go. Five posts up.

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Having or exhibiting healing powers.

Of or relating to the medical treatment of a disease or condition.

Of or pertaining to the healing art; concerned in discovering and applying remedies for diseases; curative.

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