are they doing a write in campaign so they can turn in thousands of letters and pretend that they are all coming from students?

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Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then be trusted with the government of others? Or have we found angels in the form of kings to govern him? Let history answer this question.

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Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.

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I think our governments will remain virtuous for many centuries; as long as they are chiefly agricultural; and this will be as long as there shall be vacant lands in any part of America. When they get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, they will become corrupt as in Europe

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CCP Joe Veggie said:

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Biden also raped his female staffer. To the dustbin of history with him.

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I hear you. But, unlike the liberals with prominent people in our nation's history, I want the Biden presidency to be remembered forever.

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Same script being applied to Sully

And every other white person in history.

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Most of whom are *democrats*
If ever there was a political party that should be confined to the flames of hell, it is the democrat party and all the racists that have supported it through the decades.

And that includes the latest set of clowns, who are intellectually the weakest.

suture_scissors said:

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He raped his slaves. He wrote about all men being equal, but didn't believe it or live it. He belongs in the dustbin of history.

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He screwed his help and interns, and talked of equality of women, but didnt believe it or live it. He belongs in the dustbin of history.

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suture_scissors said:

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He raped his slaves. He wrote about all men being equal, but didn't believe it or live it. He belongs in the dustbin of history.

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False. His brother however is likely to have done that.

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Don't let facts get in the way of his feelings.

The hilarious thing about the post-modern left is that 95% of their philosophical forefathers were vile humans.

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He raped his slaves. He wrote about all men being equal, but didn't believe it or live it. He belongs in the dustbin of history.

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Lol. Idiot

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The man's brother was ahead of his time.

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Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.

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I think our governments will remain virtuous for many centuries; as long as they are chiefly agricultural; and this will be as long as there shall be vacant lands in any part of America. When they get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, they will become corrupt as in Europe

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Jefferson is wrong that governments become corrupt when people are, "piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe." They simply become necessarily more complex because there are more interactions and there must be more considerations to balance the liberty and rights of individuals. Urbanization necessarily requires the curbing of individual liberty as, "unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others," because, "the limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others," come closer and closer to us as we live closer and closer to others.

It seems Jefferson would rather avoid the complexity of an urban and industrializing society than confront it because it's the easy way out.

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suture_scissors said:

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He raped his slaves. He wrote about all men being equal, but didn't believe it or live it. He belongs in the dustbin of history.

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Some really disgusting truths behind Jefferson. He should be treated as all other oppressors in societies history.

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Some really shallow and ignorant takes behind some TexAgs posters.

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Pretty sure they're the same...

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Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.

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I think our governments will remain virtuous for many centuries; as long as they are chiefly agricultural; and this will be as long as there shall be vacant lands in any part of America. When they get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, they will become corrupt as in Europe

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Jefferson is wrong that governments become corrupt when people are, "piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe." They simply become necessarily more complex because there are more interactions and there must be more considerations to balance the liberty and rights of individuals. Urbanization necessarily requires the curbing of individual liberty as, "unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others," because, "the limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others," come closer and closer to us as we live closer and closer to others.

It seems Jefferson would rather avoid the complexity of an urban and industrializing society than confront it because it's the easy way out.

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Overly large cities throughout history have devolved into cesspools. He wasn't looking for the easy way out. He was simply a student of history, unlike most modern democrats.

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Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.

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I think our governments will remain virtuous for many centuries; as long as they are chiefly agricultural; and this will be as long as there shall be vacant lands in any part of America. When they get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, they will become corrupt as in Europe

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Jefferson is wrong that governments become corrupt when people are, "piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe." They simply become necessarily more complex because there are more interactions and there must be more considerations to balance the liberty and rights of individuals. Urbanization necessarily requires the curbing of individual liberty as, "unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others," because, "the limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others," come closer and closer to us as we live closer and closer to others.

It seems Jefferson would rather avoid the complexity of an urban and industrializing society than confront it because it's the easy way out.

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The mousetopia experiments from the 60's were interesting with regard to population density and social interactions.

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At the peak population, most mice spent every living second in the company of hundreds of other mice. They gathered in the main squares, waiting to be fed and occasionally attacking each other. Few females carried pregnancies to term, and the ones that did seemed to simply forget about their babies. They'd move half their litter away from danger and forget the rest. Sometimes they'd drop and abandon a baby while they were carrying it.
The few secluded spaces housed a population Calhoun called, "the beautiful ones." Generally guarded by one male, the femalesand few malesinside the space didn't breed or fight or do anything but eat and groom and sleep. When the population started declining the beautiful ones were spared from violence and death, but had completely lost touch with social behaviors, including having sex or caring for their young.

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suture_scissors said:

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He raped his slaves. He wrote about all men being equal, but didn't believe it or live it. He belongs in the dustbin of history.

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Not your best effort.