THE_CHOSEN_ONE said:

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Captain Pablo said:

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THE_CHOSEN_ONE said:

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WHOOP!'91 said:

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THE_CHOSEN_ONE said:

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WHOOP!'91 said:

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THE_CHOSEN_ONE said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Have you seen evidence this is real? The "photo" or the allegation?

There's a sucker born every minute.

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It very well could be fake. I'm talking about the people on here saying that it makes them like him more, or they don't care if it's true. People are so used to electing morally bankrupt politicians it doesn't even phase them anymore.

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30 years ago, a young teacher was at a party with females that may have been students at the school where he taught. Said females may well have been 18 years old.

This is "morally bankrupt" for you?

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This was 20 years ago (though not sure why that really matters) which is around the time I was in high school. We had teachers and coaches who would do this, and it was creepy as **** then, and still is.

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You don't know what "this" is. We don't know those chicks are even HS students or students at his school.

We know Ron posed for a picture with three girls, one holding a non-descript bottle. We don't know who the females are, we don't know their age.

As badly as you want to make up a narrative to the negative, it could at least as easily be completely innocent. Ron could have been chaperoning the party and posed for a picture. Those females could be from the local college. Etc, etc, but you choose to jump to the negative.

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It could be innocent, maybe Desantis will have a reasonable explanation for the pic.

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Or maybe he'll fart and tell you to sniff it

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That's probably more likely than a politician actually addressing any kind of scandal when they know their loyal followers will gladly sniff their farts for them.

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Wait, are you changing the thread discourse to Hunter Biden's art career/the 'big guy' and their shared business relationships with China etc? Or Nancy Pelosi's investing genius?

I don't think I've mentioned any of them except responding to the guy who accused me of being a Joe supporter

Well those politicians won't address those scandals, and you are a Joe fart sniffer, aren't you?

TexAgs91 said:

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Dad-O-Lot said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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> It Begins: Ron DeSantis Accused of Attending Drinking Party With Students

No, it doesn't begin.

Since Biden, the bar is now so low that countless racial slurs, selling favors to China, Ukrainian quid pro quo, manufacturing crimes against 4 star Generals, stealing elections, stranding Americans behind enemy lines, destroying our borders, destroying our economy and unconstitutional mandates all get a pass.

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If he were not a Republican, you would be correct.

Because he is a Republican, the rules are different.

It will be breathlessly reported as a major "character issue", and we'll be asked if "his supporters are aware..."

The double standard is so ingrained that people expect it.

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It is there, but I don't excuse it like all other republicans.

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I'm not sure what you mean. excuse what? Excuse the Republicans for not meeting the expected higher standard, or excuse the Democrats/media/leftists/etc... for holding Republicans to a higher standard?

Why is this a story?

Dad-O-Lot said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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> It Begins: Ron DeSantis Accused of Attending Drinking Party With Students

No, it doesn't begin.

Since Biden, the bar is now so low that countless racial slurs, selling favors to China, Ukrainian quid pro quo, manufacturing crimes against 4 star Generals, stealing elections, stranding Americans behind enemy lines, destroying our borders, destroying our economy and unconstitutional mandates all get a pass.

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If he were not a Republican, you would be correct.

Because he is a Republican, the rules are different.

It will be breathlessly reported as a major "character issue", and we'll be asked if "his supporters are aware..."

The double standard is so ingrained that people expect it.

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(R)un DeSantis out of town

Hunter Biden (D)id nothing wrong.

nortex97 said:

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Well those politicians won't address those scandals, and you are a Joe fart sniffer, aren't you?

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Once again, definitely not a Joe supporter. Call me crazy, but I'd like all politicians to address scandals that involve them, and I don't worship or blindly defend any of them.

lol, oompa loompa scale photoshopped Ron can't even reach the upper cabinets in the kitchen.

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nortex97 said:

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Well those politicians won't address those scandals, and you are a Joe fart sniffer, aren't you?

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Once again, definitely not a Joe supporter. Call me crazy, but I'd like all politicians to address scandals that involve them, and I don't worship or blindly defend any of them.

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Just so we're clear, are you suggesting that a salacious accusation made by a reporter with an obvious agenda using a series of assumptions and an undated, unverified, blurry photo qualifies as a "scandal" that warrants addressing by the candidate?

Is that your bar?

jrdaustin said:

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THE_CHOSEN_ONE said:

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nortex97 said:

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Well those politicians won't address those scandals, and you are a Joe fart sniffer, aren't you?

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Once again, definitely not a Joe supporter. Call me crazy, but I'd like all politicians to address scandals that involve them, and I don't worship or blindly defend any of them.

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Just so we're clear, are you suggesting that a salacious accusation made by a reporter with an obvious agenda using a series of assumptions and an undated, unverified, blurry photo qualifies as a "scandal" that warrants addressing by the candidate?

Is that your bar?

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Yes, he is a public figure. If there are photos that show what appears to be him partying with high school girls when he was their teacher, that warrants being addressed. If it's not him, or those aren't high school girls, or whatever the explanation, he should say so.

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Why is this a story?

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Adults drinking with underage children will always solicit a response. Now throw in a politician and you have a story.

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nortex97 said:

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Well those politicians won't address those scandals, and you are a Joe fart sniffer, aren't you?

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Once again, definitely not a Joe supporter. Call me crazy, but I'd like all politicians to address scandals that involve them, and I don't worship or blindly defend any of them.

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Nobody else here is doing that either

It may come as a shock, but you're no more open minded or pensive than anyone else

Just because one has conviction doesn't mean they "blindly follow"

Now toddle on back over to the General board and rejoin your playmates

but did he wear black face???

I have photos of us in high school on senior skip day posing on the beach with our Principal and Vice Principal, and everybody in the pictures except them has alcohol in their hand. Nothing untoward happened (other than minors drinking at the beach), and they were great people who did a good job educating us.

MindofCarlos said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Why is this a story?

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Adults drinking with underage children will always solicit a response. Now throw in a politician and you have a story.

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None of which has been proven. There isn't even any evidence of it

Good lord how do some of you even function

THE_CHOSEN_ONE said:

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No thanks, I think I'll do whatever I want.

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OK sport

The girls should be confirmed to be high school students before it is addressed.

"Address this decades-old photo of you socializing with girls" is not an adequately high bar.

Since, ya know, that includes pretty much every single, college-aged heterosexual male.

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Wonder if it has changed around the old German/Bohemian dance halls around central Texas. Most of the town is at a dance and everyone drinks and dances with each other-- and nothing is said at school Monday. Of course, as I posted above, libs would denounce this, but allow pedos to run for office.

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Yep, during HS in Waco in the late 1980s, I remember being freaked out when one of the 15 y/o girls from our church group was dancing with some 25 y/o guy. I was like.... that guy is twenty-f'ing-five

I always thought it was weird but honestly, it was probably pretty harmless. This of course was in the era before cell phone cameras.

MindofCarlos said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Why is this a story?

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Adults drinking with underage children will always solicit a response. Now throw in a politician and you have a story.

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Joe is 'proud of his son.' I can't post photos of said son with prostitutes/crack pipes etc. but he has never addressed those. Just fyi.

The 'big guy' has been on the take for decades. It's a lot bigger deal than DeSantis teaching a HS class in his early 20's.

Should have been in blackface, then the crap would really hit the fan. Unless he was a Canadian or dem governor.

MindofCarlos said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Why is this a story?

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Adults drinking with underage children will always solicit a response. Now throw in a politician and you have a story.

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Where is the evidence that DeSantis was drinking with underage children?

Maybe those girls are underage. (But if so, they're, uh, very mature.)

Until their age at the time is confirmed, however, it's a non-story.

nortex97 said:

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MindofCarlos said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Why is this a story?

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Adults drinking with underage children will always solicit a response. Now throw in a politician and you have a story.

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Joe is 'proud of his son.' I can't post photos of said son with prostitutes/crack pipes etc. but he has never addressed those. Just fyi.

The 'big guy' has been on the take for decades. It's a lot bigger deal than DeSantis teaching a HS class in his early 20's.

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Kennedy got drunk, wrecked his car and killed a woman, which is much worse than getting blowjobs in the Oval Office from an intern. That doesn't mean that both incidents shouldn't be addressed just because one is worse than the other.

If this is sketchy to the leftists, what are we to make of one who rode a private jet known as the Lolita express dozens of times and was a known associate of a pedophile pimp? Documented, known - photos, flight logs, sworn testimony, etc.

Ag In Ok said:

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If this is sketchy to the leftists, what are we to make of one who rode a private jet known as the Lolita express dozens of times and was a known associate of a pedophile pimp? Documented, known - photos, flight logs, sworn testimony, etc.

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Yes, trafficking underage girls is terrible and the people involved and who were friends with Epstein are terrible. Teachers partying with high school students is also bad. One being worse doesn't make the other insignificant.

THE_CHOSEN_ONE said:

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jrdaustin said:

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nortex97 said:

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Well those politicians won't address those scandals, and you are a Joe fart sniffer, aren't you?

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Once again, definitely not a Joe supporter. Call me crazy, but I'd like all politicians to address scandals that involve them, and I don't worship or blindly defend any of them.

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Just so we're clear, are you suggesting that a salacious accusation made by a reporter with an obvious agenda using a series of assumptions and an undated, unverified, blurry photo qualifies as a "scandal" that warrants addressing by the candidate?

Is that your bar?

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Yes, he is a public figure. If there are photos that show what appears to be him partying with high school girls when he was their teacher, that warrants being addressed. If it's not him, or those aren't high school girls, or whatever the explanation, he should say so.

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I can't tell if you're trolling, or just incredibly naive. You do realize that photoshop is a thing, don't you? Also, there is one photo that really tells us nothing. Assuming it's not shopped, you're still jumping to the vast conclusions that he's actually in the photo, that the blurred girls are actually high school girls, that it's actually beer in the photo, that he's a teacher at the time, and that he is their teacher. All assumptions that you're willing to run with and expect him to respond to.

Friend, this is straight out of the Kavenaugh playbook. I'm surprised you don't see that.

So far we have a photo and a news article. Based on the last several years of journalism, i have reasonable doubts. Very reasonable.
As for the core assertion, yes, teachers partying with students is bad. But i have learned to question what the MSM puts out there. And for the article to reference Goetz, only brings about further suspicion.

On the other hand, we have photos, statements , logs, etc. oh and crickets.

Can't wait for the DeSantis ones!

Keegan99 said:

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MindofCarlos said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Why is this a story?

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Adults drinking with underage children will always solicit a response. Now throw in a politician and you have a story.

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Where is the evidence that DeSantis was drinking with underage children?

Maybe those girls are underage. (But if so, they're, uh, very mature.)

Until their age at the time is confirmed, however, it's a non-story.

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Unfortunately allegations don't work that way. An allegation is simply that, he hasn't been convicted of any crime or removed from any position. Allegations are routinely made public interest when dealing with public figures. If allegations are untrue, unfounded or can't be proven then he and his supporters have nothing to worry about it. If it's true he was drinking with underage children as an adult in a position of power then may the cards lay where they fall for him. Me personally I have no sympathy for adults engaging in any illegal activities when underage children.

AG N ASIA said:

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In the past, it was to protect from retaliation, but has become weaponized and no longer even requires a source as one journalist runs with the anonymous and adds to the "multiple reports" so must be true validity. Pathetic.

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And the "really not corrupt, you guys!" FBI gets FISA warrants based on fabricated stories and circular reporting.

MindofCarlos said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Why is this a story?

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Adults drinking with underage children will always solicit a response. Now throw in a politician and you have a story.

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Again, what makes them underage children, besides pixelated faces and an assertion by the "journalist"?

Reasonable doubts are fine, and if it's a photoshop or something else he could easily come out and say so. If the girls in the photo aren't willing to come out and say anything then that would lend credence to whatever story he decides to come out with. Why wouldn't you want to hear from him about it?

MindofCarlos said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Why is this a story?

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Adults drinking with underage children will always solicit a response. Now throw in a politician and you have a story.

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elicit

ThIs NeEdS tO bE iNvEsTiGaTeD!!!!1!!!!!11

The power of suggestion coupled with a great many uncertainties... Time frame is uncertain. Ages/identities uncertain. Beer vs IBC root beer bottle... uncertain. Circumstances surrounding the photo are uncertain. Yeah, the power of suggestion can make one default to the negative. Felt it when reading the article, until the BS meter was pegged at 11. Why do we want to believe the worst about someone?

MindofCarlos said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Why is this a story?

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Adults drinking with underage children will always solicit a response. Now throw in a politician and you have a story.

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One blurred out person has a non-descript bottle. Ron doesn't.

"Facts" not introduced into evidence, counselor.