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DJT has never been afraid to kick a man when he's dead. Class act.

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He's never been afraid to kick a man when he's alive either. It's who he is and I'll take the brutal honest truth over lies and political speak any day.

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This ain't about the truth. This is about getting on Trump's bad side and his petty vendettas. His immaturity and pettiness are some of the bigger reasons we are stuck with Biden presidency, a Dem Senate, and a whole bunch of bad policies. And it's also part of why he shouldn't be a candidate in 2024. The man lacks self-discipline.

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Hard to believe even after where the Democrats have taken this country over the last 9 months that people would still worry about personality over policy. Most self defeating thing I've ever seen.

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Every single one of you who tries this tired approach lives in Fantasyland. That Trump being a petty, immature butthole turns off a whole bunch of voters is an inarguable fact. If he would just have exercised some self-discipline he could have won the election, despite everything arrayed against him. But it was more important to Trump to get his jabs in that it was for him to win the election. Let that sink in next time you think to praise the man: he'd rather get his insults in to gratify his own needs than keep the White House and Senate out of the left's hands.

And he also carried out his petty grudges in the way he governed, as evidenced by the continuous stream of "top people" he appointed who ended up being "the absolute worst".

I voted for the petty, immature, butthole, twice, but that some of y'all can't see that he is his own worst enemy is dumbfounding. Let's find a POTUS candidate who isn't his own worst enemy, because there's already enough enemies aligned against Rs.

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I'm not praising the man - I just pointed out he is who he is.

But I would gladly take that - even with the blunt, sometimes unneccessary, crude statements - any day over what we have now. The policies he supports are far more important to me than his abrasive personality. If Trump is the eventual nominee in 2024 I will gladly vote for him.

I also like DeSantis a lot for this very reason but it remains to be seen whether or not he will make the cut or even enter the race. There is still a long way to go.

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The media will fire up the propaganda machines on DeSantis and the same people complaining about mean tweetz on these forums will buy in to it as well.

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You are getting much warmer. Tie this to the lessons we've learned from the covid charade and how disappointing it is to see how truly mentally weak most of the populace is and you can see on this thread how easy it is to dupe the populace into believing one thing why a more nefarious action is actually taking place. This thread only furthers the fact that this country is lost and gone.

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The Socialist Democrats said every nasty vile word in the English language when Rush died. Nothing DjT wrote even comes close to the tamest remarks that were flowing in January.

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**** them too. But nobody is saying CP is a socialist democrat, right?

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No, he's a neocon warmonger responsible for the deaths of thousands.

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Who this board supported.

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And times change and so do people's abilities to see through bull*****

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We've always known Trump was an @$$hole.

Everyone in Washington is, he's just the first since Harry Truman who doesn't hide it.

Because people can't stand the truth, we now have President Potato, and his 25th Amendment backups, the Cackling Hen and the Drunk and corrupt speaker.

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Imagine if he had just been a decent human being. He'd still be President. It's absurd but likeability is a big factor and he just makes it so damn hard for many people to like him.

Again, just be a decent human being and release boilerplate condolences, or better yet don't say anything at all. Trump hasn't learned how to do that latter and we all know that is a major skill that all people should learn.

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No, no he wouldn't! The establishment and the MSM were going to see to that and you're example A.

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The media will fire up the propaganda machines on DeSantis and the same people complaining about mean tweetz on these forums will buy in to it as well.

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You are getting much warmer. Tie this to the lessons we've learned from the covid charade and how disappointing it is to see how truly mentally weak most of the populace is and you can see on this thread how easy it is to dupe the populace into believing one thing why a more nefarious action is actually taking place. This thread only furthers the fact that this country is lost and gone.

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The only thing that will wake most people up to reality is a boot on their face unfortunately; we won't have to wait much longer for that boot to come a stompin.

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He didn't have to pretend anything. He simply could have said nothing. Why is that so hard for him (and his cult of personality) to understand?

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Exactly. The only people who like this statement are people who were, to a man, already going to vote for him (assuming a 2024 run). It harms him with every single other potential voter.

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So concerned moderates going to vote for the party that has by every metric made life worse for them because orange man bad?

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Yes. Psychologists have done this 2 person experiment countless times: give person A $100 bucks and tell him to decide how to split it between himself and person B. However, person B gets to approve/deny the transaction, and if he denies it, neither person gets anything. Again and again this experiment has shown that if person A gives B less than 30 bucks or so, person B will reject the "unfair" settlement and receive nothing instead of accepting free money.

The point is that if you antagonize people in a way that negatively resonates with them on a deep emotional level, they will knowingly harm themselves for a chance to take you down a notch. In politics, where cause and effect is a lot muddier and more difficult to even establish, they will do so without hesitation.

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And the demoralization is evident on this thread!

Very well said!

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The Socialist Democrats said every nasty vile word in the English language when Rush died. Nothing DjT wrote even comes close to the tamest remarks that were flowing in January.

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**** them too. But nobody is saying CP is a socialist democrat, right?

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Nah. If the logic of this board is to be used, they're responsible for those deaths as well. It's their fault.

Of course, that sort of "logic" is ****ing stupid.

Do you know what Nazi propaganda broadcasting into the UK during WWII focused on? Creating conflict in the population and sowing doubt about leadership.

That pretty much sums up F16. And yes I find that depressing for our country because I know it's a theme of the online world. The left and the right have given into it.

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The Socialist Democrats said every nasty vile word in the English language when Rush died. Nothing DjT wrote even comes close to the tamest remarks that were flowing in January.

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**** them too. But nobody is saying CP is a socialist democrat, right?

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Nah. If the logic of this board is to be used, they're responsible for those deaths as well. It's their fault.

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We are ALL at fault for electing these *******s. Time to stop voting for the establishment and learn a lesson for once.

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Would it be nice if Trump pretended that they didn't hate each other? I guess so but that isn't the world we live in anymore. No doubt the day Trump dies the Left will spend weeks jumping up on top of his grave and insulting him. It's not like Trump got any credit for being nice to McCain's legacy when he died either.

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He didn't have to pretend anything. He simply could have said nothing. Why is that so hard for him (and his cult of personality) to understand?

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Then he wouldn't be Trump. Trump has never shied away from saying what he thinks, that's his greatest strength and weakness. He was also going to be asked about it considering his relationship with Powell and all of the nasty things Powell has said about Trump for years.

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Then wait until he is asked at the very least.

Alternately a simple "I wasn't a big fan of his, as you know we disagreed on a lot and he didn't like me at all, but my condolences to his family" would have sufficed.

This is the kind of thing that alienates independents because it is not a political fight, it's just being an ******* for the sake of being one.

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Don't disagree, that's part of what cost him my vote in '16. Trump isn't going to change though.

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bless your soft little heart.

How are you liking Biden?

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Lol, hell no. Voted Libertarian in '16 and Trump in '20. Clearly you don't spend much time on this board.

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Do you know what Nazi propaganda broadcasting into the UK during WWII focused on? Creating conflict in the population and sowing doubt about leadership.

That pretty much sums up F16. And yes I find that depressing for our country because I know it's a theme of the online world. The left and the right have given into it.

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Never speak ill of the dead.

**** like this is why DJT lost in 2020.

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Repeat after me slowly:

B-a-l-l-o-t H-a-r-v-e-s-t-I-n-g

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Ballot Harvesting is LEGAL to a degree in nearly every state and it is embraced by Republicans as well as Democrats.

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Wonderful to see Colin Powell, who made big mistakes on Iraq and famously, so called weapons of mass destruction, be treated in death so beautifully by the Fake News Media. Hope that happens to me someday. He was a classic RINO, if even that, always being the first to attack other Republicans. He made plenty of mistakes, but anyway, may he rest in peace!

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^^^He's not wrong you know^^^

I thought yall were tired of politicians who lied

We got one that told the brutal truth and you all cried like a bunch of titty babies.

Wimps.

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I'm a Trump supporter - voted for him twice - but this comment from him was ridiculous. Did he think we all needed his opinion of Powell that badly ?

His mouth is why he's not the President right now, and if he continues opening his mouth when there's no need to, his 2024 campaign will fail for the same reason, and we'll be stuck with another crappy Dem in the White House.

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Thank you for proving my point.

Powell was a crap republican. Those trying to paint him any different are LYING to set an agenda.

Just because a dead man is dead does not mean we should rewrite history to be kind to his legacy. That does noone any good.

When someone passes away, idiots ridiculously believe that is the time to rewrite their life.

This is false.

After death a life should be examined for what it was- the good and the bad. That is how we learn from their life and improve our own.

Rewriting history serves no purpose except to make you feel better because you can fool yourself into thinking your forgiveness of the errors of their humanity is virtuous.

That bull**** is why we are where we are as a society and regressing

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Next time a Facebook friend dies, make sure to air their dirty laundry and how much you disliked them. Before the funeral preferably.

That will surely help society.

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I can only think of three people in my entire life who I ever found happiness in expressing my contempt for them when they died.

One was bin Laden.

The other two were two brothers, Curtis and Danny Harris, who were executed by the State of Texas for the vicious murder of Tim Merka.

Repeat after me:

Only fools want universal suffrage.

The founding fathers were absolutely correct.

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Typical Trump to open his mouth and make an unnecessary statement that doesn't help him.

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Typical Dan Scott to post a hot liberal take on Texags

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There is nothing liberal about recognizing that if Trump had eliminated even the worst 20% of his unnecessary, petty attacks that he'd likely be POTUS right now, but instead we're stuck w Biden and this leftist crapshow.

How some of you continue to mistake recognition of Trump's self-defeating as behavior as support for the left is borderline pathological. It's because we don't want the left to win that we find Trump's self-inflicted wounds and lack of self-discipline to be so frustrating.

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Typical Trump to open his mouth and make an unnecessary statement that doesn't help him.

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There is nothing liberal about recognizing that if Trump had eliminated even the worst 20% of his unnecessary, petty attacks that he'd likely be POTUS right now, but instead we're stuck w Biden and this leftist crapshow.

How some of you continue to mistake recognition of Trump's self-defeating as behavior as support for the left is borderline pathological. It's because we don't want the left to win that we find Trump's self-inflicted wounds and lack of self-discipline to be so frustrating.

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Yes Trump was so hated that he got the most votes ever for losing. He also won 17 of the 20 key swing counties. He easily won Ohio and Florida. And by some crazy coincidence in 4 key swing states, major cities stopped counting and magically found all these votes for Biden. Did you see Biden rallies? Have you seen Biden's approval numbers?

Yeah it is hard as an intellectual to support Trump's "character". But once you realize he is playing a role it is much easier.

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Typical Trump to open his mouth and make an unnecessary statement that doesn't help him.

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There is nothing liberal about recognizing that if Trump had eliminated even the worst 20% of his unnecessary, petty attacks that he'd likely be POTUS right now, but instead we're stuck w Biden and this leftist crapshow.

How some of you continue to mistake recognition of Trump's self-defeating as behavior as support for the left is borderline pathological. It's because we don't want the left to win that we find Trump's self-inflicted wounds and lack of self-discipline to be so frustrating.

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Yes Trump was so hated that he got the most votes ever for losing. He also won 17 of the 20 key swing counties. He easily won Ohio and Florida. And by some crazy coincidence in 4 key swing states, major cities stopped counting and magically found all these votes for Biden. Did you see Biden rallies? Have you seen Biden's approval numbers?

Yeah it is hard as an intellectual to support Trump's "character". But once you realize he is playing a role it is much easier.

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Imagine how well he would have done if he'd been an America-first POTUS who fights back against the left and the media, but who avoided the petty personal grudges and sophomoric insults. He'd have done well enough to win, which is the goal of an election. But he lacked the self-discipline to do so and now we're here.

But it's all 4D chess, right?

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Do you know what Nazi propaganda broadcasting into the UK during WWII focused on? Creating conflict in the population and sowing doubt about leadership.

That pretty much sums up F16. And yes I find that depressing for our country because I know it's a theme of the online world. The left and the right have given into it.

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Typical Trump to open his mouth and make an unnecessary statement that doesn't help him.

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There is nothing liberal about recognizing that if Trump had eliminated even the worst 20% of his unnecessary, petty attacks that he'd likely be POTUS right now, but instead we're stuck w Biden and this leftist crapshow.

How some of you continue to mistake recognition of Trump's self-defeating as behavior as support for the left is borderline pathological. It's because we don't want the left to win that we find Trump's self-inflicted wounds and lack of self-discipline to be so frustrating.

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Exactly. DeSantis 2024.

Powell was a typical deep state RINO whose goal was to profit from his position of what he called "service" . Trump was right.

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Typical Trump to open his mouth and make an unnecessary statement that doesn't help him.

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There is nothing liberal about recognizing that if Trump had eliminated even the worst 20% of his unnecessary, petty attacks that he'd likely be POTUS right now, but instead we're stuck w Biden and this leftist crapshow.

How some of you continue to mistake recognition of Trump's self-defeating as behavior as support for the left is borderline pathological. It's because we don't want the left to win that we find Trump's self-inflicted wounds and lack of self-discipline to be so frustrating.

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Yes Trump was so hated that he got the most votes ever for losing. He also won 17 of the 20 key swing counties. He easily won Ohio and Florida. And by some crazy coincidence in 4 key swing states, major cities stopped counting and magically found all these votes for Biden. Did you see Biden rallies? Have you seen Biden's approval numbers?

Yeah it is hard as an intellectual to support Trump's "character". But once you realize he is playing a role it is much easier.

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Imagine how well he would have done if he'd been an America-first POTUS who fights back against the left and the media, but who avoided the petty personal grudges and sophomoric insults. He'd have done well enough to win, which is the goal of an election. But he lacked the self-discipline to do so and now we're here.

But it's all 4D chess, right?

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You mean like Ted Cruz? The guy who barely held on to win a senate seat in a rather red state. Maybe people voted for Trump because he fought back. Maybe people voted for Trump because they saw him take all these attacks and wasn't this polished politician.

By the way, DeSantis is successful because Trump reset the bar from pushover (bush, McCain, romney) to wild west slinger. DeSantis looks tame compared to Trump and so more tolerable by the middle.

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Being a jerk doesn't change my vote, but you're crazy if you think it doesn't change anyone's vote. There are a lot of very emotional people around the country. Many of them vote… and some of them are election workers. Bad judgment can affect my vote, and this looks like an unnecessary own goal which is among the reasons he would be no better than my third choice in the primary.

He got himself back in the news, and a lot of times that seems to be what he's really after. Assuming he actually said it, I'm not sure I've seen confirmation that he did.

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https://gab.com/REALDONALDTRUMP

The bitterness and form certainly seem like him, and there's a blue check mark (chuckle) by his name on gab.

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The fake, highly partisan Unselect Committee continues to rock and roll. They were unable to make a deal with Kevin McCarthy to put real Republicans on the Committee, so they got stuck with low-polling warmonger Liz Cheney and Cryin' Adam Kinzinger who have no idea what our Party stands for. Cheney is polling in the low 20's in Wyoming, the State she doesn't represent. . . .

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The real question is: Why did Trump want Collin Powell story to reach a broader audience? I'm sure many here will think, oh Trump just said something stupid off the cuff. It is classic Trump. I don't disagree that this is in character but he has been largely silent picking his spots. He chose to say something inflammatory here.

Did Trump want a story of a double vaxxed guy dying from covid in the news longer?
Is there a certain demographic that is moderate that disliked Powell that will align with this message?
Did Trump see this as a way to show he is still punching and fighting, was he worried about the conservative morale?


I doubt any body who didn't vote for Trump because he was mean were ready to pull the lever for Trump but will recall he said bad things about Collin Powell. And we know that Trump's persona will require him to attack other individuals as well before 2024 (that is a long ways away).

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He's made 7 posts on gab in the last day or so. I'd have to create an account to go further back, but it doesn't seem like he's been silent, it's just that no one pays attention to what he's saying on gab for the most part.

This one got picked up by MSM because he was shooting himself in the foot.

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Typical Trump to open his mouth and make an unnecessary statement that doesn't help him.

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There is nothing liberal about recognizing that if Trump had eliminated even the worst 20% of his unnecessary, petty attacks that he'd likely be POTUS right now, but instead we're stuck w Biden and this leftist crapshow.

How some of you continue to mistake recognition of Trump's self-defeating as behavior as support for the left is borderline pathological. It's because we don't want the left to win that we find Trump's self-inflicted wounds and lack of self-discipline to be so frustrating.

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You may be right, but I have a feeling President Trump gained many votes precisely because of his acerbic often over the top statements. Just look at the votes he received compared to previous incumbents and the increase % votes from minorities.

Does anyone really believe that President Trump's mean tweets did him in? Even without them he was not going to win because of the collective effort of MSM and Social media to demonize him. Why do you think he made those tweets? He was pretty much without another platform. Anybody who does not believe that MSM and Social media are incredibly powerful are naive. We live in a society now where we want to be fed we have no desire to feed ourselves. This once great nation is destined for mediocracy or worse.

Powell was a Rino and no friend of conservatives. He was part of the establishment.

I am really sorry if words hurt you. Those mean tweets had done soooooo much damage.

Man I long for mean tweets, religious freedom, protection of the unborn, judges that don't legislate and adhere to the constitution, right to bear arms, freedom of speech, freedom to a rational debate.

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how about EVERYONE on the left spewing hate towards DJT for the last 5 years. I mean his statement against powell is nothing compared to that.




also - imagine in 16 years when Trump dies - these same people coming after DJT for this statement will say alot worse.

Did you miss the part about assuming that it's the Chinese and Russians running the show over here? I see you didn't quote that part.

Yes, I believe foreign governments are involved in misinformation seeking to divide our country - and yes I would compare the Chinese and Russians to the Nazis. Not sure if that's a hot button for this board.

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And yet he lost, which is the point. It doesn't matter how many votes he got if it wasn't enough to win. And the people that get off on his trolling would have voted for him either way. What matters is how many votes he lost by being a *******.

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Yes it definitely wasn't the MIB process or the stop counting for 4 hours but his mean tweets. Or maybe Zuckerbucks. Or the social media censorship. Or the MSM hit pieces.

Trump was up there daily for covid in the middle of a national crisis and our media was trying to trap and burn him.

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Did you miss the part about assuming that it's the Chinese and Russians running the show over here? I see you didn't quote that part.

Yes, I believe foreign governments are involved in misinformation seeking to divide our country - and yes I would compare the Chinese and Russians to the Nazis. Not sure if that's a hot button for this board.

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So Biden whose son has deals with Russia and China, does that make the family nazis? Just curious on the thought process.

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You may be right, but I have a feeling President Trump gained many votes precisely because of his acerbic often over the top statements. Just look at the votes he received compared to previous incumbents and the increase % votes from minorities.

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And yet he lost, which is the point. It doesn't matter how many votes he got if it wasn't enough to win. And the people that get off on his trolling would have voted for him either way. What matters is how many votes he lost by being a *******.

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Yes it definitely wasn't the MIB process or the stop counting for 4 hours but his mean tweets. Or maybe Zuckerbucks. Or the social media censorship. Or the MSM hit pieces.

Trump was up there daily for covid in the middle of a national crisis and our media was trying to trap and burn him.

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None of that matters if Biden can't get within cheating distance based on real, legitimate votes.

Granting all the cheating that is alleged, a crap ton of the votes for Biden were real, and a crap ton of those very real votes were because he so alienated people with this type of (unnecessary) behavior.

Yes he had to fight the media onslaught. But what if, when the media called him a stupid monkey flinging crap around his cage, Trump didn't make it easy by acting like a monkey flinging crap everywhere? The media mainly criticized his behavior, not his policies. Continually playing into their characterization of him only served to legitimize that characterization in the minds of a lot of important voting demos. And that is dumb. And a recipe for losing.

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You may be right, but I have a feeling President Trump gained many votes precisely because of his acerbic often over the top statements. Just look at the votes he received compared to previous incumbents and the increase % votes from minorities.

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And yet he lost, which is the point. It doesn't matter how many votes he got if it wasn't enough to win. And the people that get off on his trolling would have voted for him either way. What matters is how many votes he lost by being a *******.

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Yes it definitely wasn't the MIB process or the stop counting for 4 hours but his mean tweets. Or maybe Zuckerbucks. Or the social media censorship. Or the MSM hit pieces.

Trump was up there daily for covid in the middle of a national crisis and our media was trying to trap and burn him.

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None of that matters if Biden can't get within cheating distance based on real, legitimate votes.

Granting all the cheating that is alleged, a crap ton of the votes for Biden were real, and a crap ton of those very real votes were because he so alienated people with this type of (unnecessary) behavior.

Yes he had to fight the media onslaught. But what if, when the media called him a stupid monkey flinging crap around his cage, Trump didn't make it easy by acting like a monkey flinging crap everywhere? The media mainly criticized his behavior, not his policies. Continually playing into their characterization of him only served to legitimize that characterization in the minds of a lot of important voting demos. And that is dumb. And a recipe for losing.

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I think you are simplifying the public perspective. Trump started swinging and had to keep on swinging. If he stopped swinging then everyone would interpret that as weakness. Giving up. People don't wear the MAGA hats because of the policy they do it because Trump turned MAGA into a symbol of fighting. Trump made being a republican a cool thing. A rebel thing. That has real value and is at jeopardy if he turns into a nice guy.

Also if you think the public perception of Biden support wasn't insanely inflated by polls, media, twitter & FB which made it believable that he won then i can't help you. If you compared the rally numbers between the two the support is night and day different. Anything that required real people to show support proved DJT was more liked. You just want to believe that if Trump would have been a little different he would have won. Let's you hang on to the idea that in 2024 DeSantis has a real shot. I think he does, but I get there in a more roundabout way.

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Trump started swinging and had to keep on swinging. If he stopped swinging then everyone would interpret that as weakness. Giving up. People don't wear the MAGA hats because of the policy they do it because Trump turned MAGA into a symbol of fighting. Trump made being a republican a cool thing. A rebel thing. That has real value and is at jeopardy if he turns into a nice guy.

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In other words, instead of a party based on conviction and principles, he turned it into a party based one trying to emulate tv wrestling.

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texagbeliever said:

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Trump started swinging and had to keep on swinging. If he stopped swinging then everyone would interpret that as weakness. Giving up. People don't wear the MAGA hats because of the policy they do it because Trump turned MAGA into a symbol of fighting. Trump made being a republican a cool thing. A rebel thing. That has real value and is at jeopardy if he turns into a nice guy.

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In other words, instead of a party based on conviction and principles, he turned it into a party based one trying to emulate tv wrestling.

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eric76 said:

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texagbeliever said:

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Trump started swinging and had to keep on swinging. If he stopped swinging then everyone would interpret that as weakness. Giving up. People don't wear the MAGA hats because of the policy they do it because Trump turned MAGA into a symbol of fighting. Trump made being a republican a cool thing. A rebel thing. That has real value and is at jeopardy if he turns into a nice guy.

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In other words, instead of a party based on conviction and principles, he turned it into a party based one trying to emulate tv wrestling.

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Funny, how this wrestler instituted the most principled republican presidency since Regan. Almost like he was playing a character in order to do the right thing. Makes you think.

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Funny, how this wrestler instituted the most principled republican presidency since Regan. Almost like he was playing a character in order to do the right thing. Makes you think.

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Trump's administration was many things, (most of which I agreed with), but "principled republican" isn't one of them.