That post last week got me thinking, is hypergamy real or just made up sad talk ? I know guys who are blue collar with white collar chicks, sounds more like an excuse to complain, but I could be wrong ….

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That post last week got me thinking, is hypergamy real or just made up sad talk ? I know guys who are blue collar with white collar chicks, sounds more like an excuse to complain, but I could be wrong ….

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Those are exceptions to the rule. College educated women won't consider blue collar men regardless of income. Most dating services prove this.

This is why there have been tons of articles lately lamenting the drop of men in colleges.

>Men drop out of colleges and society because it sucks and is stacked against them.
>Women most affected because "where have all of the good men gone?"

I don't see the correlation between; white collar = good men. Hell many blue collars make more than my poor ass does

Hypergamy is just the other side of the "slummin" it coin. There's dudes in here that have hooked up with lounge lizards before....

Hypergamy colloquially referred to as "marrying up" is a term used in social science for the act or practice of a person marrying a spouse of higher caste or social status than themselves.



Sidenote:
We both thought the other parents were more well off then they were

Your side note confused me

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I don't see the correlation between; white collar = good men. Hell many blue collars make more than my poor ass does

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I know this but we're talking about women here and they are not known for making logical decisions about money. Status is often more important for many women.

Status in what ? Being a white collar desk jockey Vs a blue collar entrepreneur

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It's not about blue collar white collar, it's a bout the Benjamin's, plenty of plumbers making bank as well as other peeps, I think women most def want to marry up, what that means is specific to each one. To a lot of women a plumber making 200k is hyper gamy

I would say it is more of a problem for those who participate in the casual sex culture

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Status in what ? Being a white collar desk jockey Vs a blue collar entrepreneur

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To other women. Always remember that women desire validation more than anything. A woman married to a man with a college degree gives a woman more validation than one without. Also remember that being married to a blue collar man lowers a woman's status in the modern world. That is, women are embarrassed to say they are married to a man who does not have one.

Is it logical? No, but this is women we are speaking about here. Do not try to give women male characteristics or thought processes because it does not work that way.

Listen to what gets the women riled up vs what they cheer and go wild for.

SPOILERS: They boo the roles where the woman takes care of her man and cheer for the man performing the role of a man when it involves serving a woman.

Women in general think hypocrisy is delicious when it benefits them.

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That post last week got me thinking, is hypergamy real or just made up sad talk ? I know guys who are blue collar with white collar chicks, sounds more like an excuse to complain, but I could be wrong ….

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Those are exceptions to the rule. College educated women won't consider blue collar men regardless of income. Most dating services prove this.

This is why there have been tons of articles lately lamenting the drop of men in colleges.

>Men drop out of colleges and society because it sucks and is stacked against them.
>Women most affected because "where have all of the good men gone?"

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Proves that a good portion of women are steeped in elitism.

I think some of the problem is the men remember a time when most blue collar jobs could provide a good living for his family. The wife could stay home and everything would be taken care of by her.


Those finances are not so likely now.
So she works full time too.

But she is still expected to do 90% of the housework, the bulk of children raising, and remind him of important events. He does work hard. 40-60 hours a week. However, she puts in the hours too. Especially in education, nursing etc...

But statistics say she still does the huge majority of the housework unless there is outside help.

People have expectations that no longer work in this society.

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Status in what ? Being a white collar desk jockey Vs a blue collar entrepreneur

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I wish I had gone the second route at this point.

I'm a white collar entrepreneur, and it is way tougher than being a good manager of an AC or electrician business. I'm pretty sure I could print money right now if I had an electrician's license.

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I would say it is more of a problem for those who participate in the casual sex culture

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That chart is incomplete.

The blue bars should be measures of wealth, not attractiveness.

nvmd

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I think some of the problem is the men remember a time when most blue collar jobs could provide a good living for his family. The wife could stay home and everything would be taken care of by her.


Those finances are not so likely now.
So she works full time too.

But she is still expected to do 90% of the housework, the bulk of children raising, and remind him of important events. He does work hard. 40-60 hours a week. However, she puts in the hours too. Especially in education, nursing etc...

But statistics say she still does the huge majority of the housework unless there is outside help.

People have expectations that no longer work in this society.

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The economic trade-off between a career in skilled trade versus a middle management white collar career with a college degree is almost neck and neck at this point.

A college degree will open some doors for you, but you are not going to make real bank unless you are willing to put in 60-80 hours a week consistently at the beginning of your career. If there is no domestic help, hired or from the wife, things just won't get done.

If you want a 50 hour work week career after you get a college degree, your upward mobility will be limited, and you have a $100k to $200k college degree to pay for.

If you get a skilled trade, you can easily make $100k a year, get paid for your education, and will be way better off financially than a newly graduated accountant that earned a B average in college.

If you are smart and hard working, and do more than just answer service calls, by the time that college graduate finishes graduate school and gets his CPA, you could own your own business, and potentially have a business with significant cash flow coming from electricians that work for you, and start gunning for commercial contracts that will make you fairly wealthy.

The elite performers will always make more money. Getting a college degree, these days, does not mean that you are an elite performer. It takes way, way more than that.

Im the one who posted women are hypergamous last week.

Of course there are exceptions but exceptions do not make the rule.

I read that women are biphasic in attraction to men. They want an offspring of an alpha male during ovulatory phase but goes home to a beta provider.

And someomwhere along here they exhibit hypergamous nature in marrying up because this ensures safety and protection for life, hopefully.

Maybe a genetic imprint beyond their ability to control or manipulate.

I do see some women breadwinners. Typically unattractive and dominating of their low testosterone husbands.

I dont think I have ever met an attractive woman breadwinner who is still married and if she is, shes getting ready to divorce.

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Listen to what gets the women riled up vs what they cheer and go wild for.

SPOILERS: They boo the roles where the woman takes care of her man and cheer for the man performing the role of a man when it involves serving a woman.

Women in general think hypocrisy is delicious when it benefits them.

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I didnt see that. They cheered everytime he said make daddy a sandwich lol.

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Listen to what gets the women riled up vs what they cheer and go wild for.

SPOILERS: They boo the roles where the woman takes care of her man and cheer for the man performing the role of a man when it involves serving a woman.

Women in general think hypocrisy is delicious when it benefits them.

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I didnt see that. They cheered everytime he said make daddy a sandwich lol.

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Dammit Anthony!

I don't want to pay Disney for their overpriced streaming service, but now I want to see Falcon / Winter Soldier.

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JFC that is depressing.

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hedge said:

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Status in what ? Being a white collar desk jockey Vs a blue collar entrepreneur

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To other women. Always remember that women desire validation more than anything. A woman married to a man with a college degree gives a woman more validation than one without. Also remember that being married to a blue collar man lowers a woman's status in the modern world. That is, women are embarrassed to say they are married to a man who does not have one.

Is it logical? No, but this is women we are speaking about here. Do not try to give women male characteristics or thought processes because it does not work that way.

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I don't identify with this at all. I'd be proud as hell to marry a man who was successful without wasting time in college because that's how I view most degrees now a waste of time/money.

Don't you mean "height"?

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Ags4DaWin said:

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Listen to what gets the women riled up vs what they cheer and go wild for.

SPOILERS: They boo the roles where the woman takes care of her man and cheer for the man performing the role of a man when it involves serving a woman.

Women in general think hypocrisy is delicious when it benefits them.

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I didnt see that. They cheered everytime he said make daddy a sandwich lol.

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Old Guy Anecdote Time.

When I first started college (San Jac, before I transferred to A&M), I was dating some hot-but-lefty chick, and in 1981 I took her to see The Stones at the Dome. When the band ripped into "Under My Thumb", all the womenz, including my lefty chick, started screaming their heads off.

It was one of the most illuminating moments of my young life, and I never forgot the lesson: spend more time focusing on what women do, rather than what they say.

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I was talking to a female friend of ours recently about these things.

Me: I have a former co-worker who's philosophy was that women have two jobs, to keep his balls empty and his plate full.
Friend: Have you ever heard the idea that I can be good to you in one room only. Bedroom or kitchen, you choose.
Me: I'm choosing the bedroom.
Friend: Most men do just don't ***** when we eat out a lot.

That's what's missing from that. If she's hot and great in the sack men will put up with a lot. The key then don't marry an ugly woman. It just sucks the life right out of you.

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I would say it is more of a problem for those who participate in the casual sex culture

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these women are crazy. get off the apps. go to church!

So what about the guys that get engaged 2-3 years after college ?

They done goofed.

Really? Because honestly speaking I kind of envy them

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JFC that is depressing.

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But extremely accurate.

hedge said:

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I don't see the correlation between; white collar = good men. Hell many blue collars make more than my poor ass does

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Women aren't the sharpest tools in the shed (their voting tendencies bear this out), and materialism is more rampant than ever...especially with social media.