General Maria Gervais: Tags Pics of Brit Soldiers, Titles It "American Heroes"

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Jayhawk said:

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Dirk Diggler said:

Right or wrong 99% chance she didn't post that, it was a Major or Captain aide / staff member. Lieutenant Colonel Battalion Commanders and Colonel Brigade Commanders don't even manage their social media pages. It's a PAO (public affairs officer ). She prob has several.


Why the hell does anyone not a 4 star general or admiral have an official social media account?


To communicate with their personnel and interested parties.

By your argument Lackland or any installation shouldn't have a public affairs team.


They need a Twitter account to do this? I guess communication was just terrible through Desert Storm. Hell even the original invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq after 9/11 had none of this and we seemed much better off.

These people don't need Twitter accounts and should not be giving statements to the public.


So the military just invades countries?

Kewl.

Remind me during a natural disaster, some sort of training incident, or any community engagement.

The PAO team messed up but your take is ill informed.
Your schtick is acting like the only veteran on this board . You're not. The military brass is full of incompetent sycophants who do stupid things. This person having a Twitter account is a liability. My take is informed.


So if you think the 3* is managing her own Twitter account please see yourself out of the conversation.
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K2-HMFIC said:

Jayhawk said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BAP Enthusiast said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BAP Enthusiast said:

Dirk Diggler said:

Right or wrong 99% chance she didn't post that, it was a Major or Captain aide / staff member. Lieutenant Colonel Battalion Commanders and Colonel Brigade Commanders don't even manage their social media pages. It's a PAO (public affairs officer ). She prob has several.


Why the hell does anyone not a 4 star general or admiral have an official social media account?


To communicate with their personnel and interested parties.

By your argument Lackland or any installation shouldn't have a public affairs team.


They need a Twitter account to do this? I guess communication was just terrible through Desert Storm. Hell even the original invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq after 9/11 had none of this and we seemed much better off.

These people don't need Twitter accounts and should not be giving statements to the public.


So the military just invades countries?

Kewl.

Remind me during a natural disaster, some sort of training incident, or any community engagement.

The PAO team messed up but your take is ill informed.
Your schtick is acting like the only veteran on this board . You're not. The military brass is full of incompetent sycophants who do stupid things. This person having a Twitter account is a liability. My take is informed.


So if you think the 3* is managing her own Twitter account please see yourself out of the conversation.
Whose name is on the account? Do flag officers have accountability for what they put their name on in the Army?

Actually that may be a legitimate question these days.
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barnyard1996 said:

C@LAg said:

That's a woman?!?!?!?!


Has she spent any time in the bush?
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Jayhawk said:

K2-HMFIC said:

Jayhawk said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BAP Enthusiast said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BAP Enthusiast said:

Dirk Diggler said:

Right or wrong 99% chance she didn't post that, it was a Major or Captain aide / staff member. Lieutenant Colonel Battalion Commanders and Colonel Brigade Commanders don't even manage their social media pages. It's a PAO (public affairs officer ). She prob has several.


Why the hell does anyone not a 4 star general or admiral have an official social media account?


To communicate with their personnel and interested parties.

By your argument Lackland or any installation shouldn't have a public affairs team.


They need a Twitter account to do this? I guess communication was just terrible through Desert Storm. Hell even the original invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq after 9/11 had none of this and we seemed much better off.

These people don't need Twitter accounts and should not be giving statements to the public.


So the military just invades countries?

Kewl.

Remind me during a natural disaster, some sort of training incident, or any community engagement.

The PAO team messed up but your take is ill informed.
Your schtick is acting like the only veteran on this board . You're not. The military brass is full of incompetent sycophants who do stupid things. This person having a Twitter account is a liability. My take is informed.


So if you think the 3* is managing her own Twitter account please see yourself out of the conversation.
Whose name is on the account? Do flag officers have accountability for what they put their name on in the Army?

Actually that may be a legitimate question these days.


Bruh. It's the TRADOC DCG's account. So while she's probably going to get teased hardcore by her peers no ones throwing a fuss over it.

The issue this board is taking is that a Butch female 3* "made" the post. The theoretical implication is that "Look the GO's are nothing but a bunch D&I obsessed people who don't know their own military."

When the reality is her staff didn't double check and pay closer to attention to a bunch of multi cam wearing dudes in an A-400M.

Mistake? Sure.

Indicative of anything else? Nope.
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K2-HMFIC said:

BAP Enthusiast said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BAP Enthusiast said:

Dirk Diggler said:

Right or wrong 99% chance she didn't post that, it was a Major or Captain aide / staff member. Lieutenant Colonel Battalion Commanders and Colonel Brigade Commanders don't even manage their social media pages. It's a PAO (public affairs officer ). She prob has several.


Why the hell does anyone not a 4 star general or admiral have an official social media account?


To communicate with their personnel and interested parties.

By your argument Lackland or any installation shouldn't have a public affairs team.


They need a Twitter account to do this? I guess communication was just terrible through Desert Storm. Hell even the original invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq after 9/11 had none of this and we seemed much better off.

These people don't need Twitter accounts and should not be giving statements to the public.


So the military just invades countries?

Kewl.

Remind me during a natural disaster, some sort of training incident, or any community engagement.

The PAO team messed up but your take is ill informed.


Are you that dense? Where did I say we don't need to communicate? My entire point is that these things were done better in the past and we didn't have seriously liability issues like this. Twitter or social media in general, for anyone outside 4 star generals or joint chiefs, is a liability and should be banned.

If they need to communicate to their subordinates, then do it through private military channels. If they need to speak with the public, it should be done in a controlled environment with a press conference and not on social media.
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BAP Enthusiast said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BAP Enthusiast said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BAP Enthusiast said:

Dirk Diggler said:

Right or wrong 99% chance she didn't post that, it was a Major or Captain aide / staff member. Lieutenant Colonel Battalion Commanders and Colonel Brigade Commanders don't even manage their social media pages. It's a PAO (public affairs officer ). She prob has several.


Why the hell does anyone not a 4 star general or admiral have an official social media account?


To communicate with their personnel and interested parties.

By your argument Lackland or any installation shouldn't have a public affairs team.


They need a Twitter account to do this? I guess communication was just terrible through Desert Storm. Hell even the original invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq after 9/11 had none of this and we seemed much better off.

These people don't need Twitter accounts and should not be giving statements to the public.


So the military just invades countries?

Kewl.

Remind me during a natural disaster, some sort of training incident, or any community engagement.

The PAO team messed up but your take is ill informed.


Are you that dense? Where did I say we don't need to communicate? My entire point is that these things were done better in the past and we didn't have seriously liability issues like this. Twitter or social media in general, for anyone outside 4 star generals or joint chiefs, is a liability and should be banned.

If they need to communicate to their subordinates, then do it through private military channels. If they need to speak with the public, it should be done in a controlled environment with a press conference and not on social media.


Ill informed take is still bad.

Social media is how info gets distributed and the military, while it makes mistakes, it's a key platform for getting stuff out.

That image of the Marine holding the baby or the Afghan kid draped in a multi cam top, those are powerful images.

In order for us to keep up with the pace of media today it means info management must be de centralized. That we can stay ahead of our adversaries who are using any form of propaganda to bring us down.

Will mistakes happen? Sure.

But that doesn't mean we slow down the pace.

The Chinese and the Russians move faster than us...we need to be trained to keep up.
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Guess Ricky got all the good looks in that family.
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SpreadsheetAg said:

First giveaway should have been there are no blacks or hispanics... but maybe that's what threw her off, since she's obviously a racist.




I'm more offended by the misuse of the apostrophe.
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K2-HMFIC said:

BAP Enthusiast said:

Dirk Diggler said:

Right or wrong 99% chance she didn't post that, it was a Major or Captain aide / staff member. Lieutenant Colonel Battalion Commanders and Colonel Brigade Commanders don't even manage their social media pages. It's a PAO (public affairs officer ). She prob has several.


Why the hell does anyone not a 4 star general or admiral have an official social media account?


To communicate with their personnel and interested parties.

By your argument Lackland or any installation shouldn't have a public affairs team.

Given this screw up and the plethora of others I've seen, I'd be okay with the military not having public affairs teams. They seem to hurt more than they help.

This goes at least as far back as the Roswell AFB PAO announcing a flying saucer wreck
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C@LAg said:

That's a woman?!?!?!?!



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K2-HMFIC said:

Jayhawk said:

K2-HMFIC said:

Jayhawk said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BAP Enthusiast said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BAP Enthusiast said:

Dirk Diggler said:

Right or wrong 99% chance she didn't post that, it was a Major or Captain aide / staff member. Lieutenant Colonel Battalion Commanders and Colonel Brigade Commanders don't even manage their social media pages. It's a PAO (public affairs officer ). She prob has several.


Why the hell does anyone not a 4 star general or admiral have an official social media account?


To communicate with their personnel and interested parties.

By your argument Lackland or any installation shouldn't have a public affairs team.


They need a Twitter account to do this? I guess communication was just terrible through Desert Storm. Hell even the original invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq after 9/11 had none of this and we seemed much better off.

These people don't need Twitter accounts and should not be giving statements to the public.


So the military just invades countries?

Kewl.

Remind me during a natural disaster, some sort of training incident, or any community engagement.

The PAO team messed up but your take is ill informed.
Your schtick is acting like the only veteran on this board . You're not. The military brass is full of incompetent sycophants who do stupid things. This person having a Twitter account is a liability. My take is informed.


So if you think the 3* is managing her own Twitter account please see yourself out of the conversation.
Whose name is on the account? Do flag officers have accountability for what they put their name on in the Army?

Actually that may be a legitimate question these days.


Bruh. It's the TRADOC DCG's account. So while she's probably going to get teased hardcore by her peers no ones throwing a fuss over it.

The issue this board is taking is that a Butch female 3* "made" the post. The theoretical implication is that "Look the GO's are nothing but a bunch D&I obsessed people who don't know their own military."

When the reality is her staff didn't double check and pay closer to attention to a bunch of multi cam wearing dudes in an A-400M.

Mistake? Sure.

Indicative of anything else? Nope.
It is hard to ignore the context which is this small and absurd error is coming on the heels of a display of gross military incompetence on the part of our general officer corps, and it is not just a twitter hiccup occurring in a vacuum.
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Keegan99 said:

SpreadsheetAg said:

First giveaway should have been there are no blacks or hispanics... but maybe that's what threw her off, since she's obviously a racist.




I'm more offended by the misuse of the apostrophe.



THIS X 1000
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UTExan said:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/incompetent-woke-military-three-star-general-posts-photo-thinks-u-s-troops-leaving-afghanistan-turns-british/

"U. Ok S. Army Lieutenant General Maria Gervais, who heads up the Army's Training and Doctrine Command posted a photo Saturday of what she thought were U.S. troops leaving Afghanistan, but it turns out they were British troops later IDed as being with the 16th Air Assault Brigade. Getting that third star apparently doesn't take much in today's woke military."

" Not noticing the British uniforms and weaponry (SA80s), Gervais tweeted Saturday morning, "This picture is worth 1000 wordsthanks to these American hero's. #Grateful".
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This current DoD is so vapid and superficial. We need a purge of top officers.
They're all political hacks who serve the party/regime.
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Jayhawk said:

K2-HMFIC said:

Jayhawk said:

K2-HMFIC said:

Jayhawk said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BAP Enthusiast said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BAP Enthusiast said:

Dirk Diggler said:

Right or wrong 99% chance she didn't post that, it was a Major or Captain aide / staff member. Lieutenant Colonel Battalion Commanders and Colonel Brigade Commanders don't even manage their social media pages. It's a PAO (public affairs officer ). She prob has several.


Why the hell does anyone not a 4 star general or admiral have an official social media account?


To communicate with their personnel and interested parties.

By your argument Lackland or any installation shouldn't have a public affairs team.


They need a Twitter account to do this? I guess communication was just terrible through Desert Storm. Hell even the original invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq after 9/11 had none of this and we seemed much better off.

These people don't need Twitter accounts and should not be giving statements to the public.


So the military just invades countries?

Kewl.

Remind me during a natural disaster, some sort of training incident, or any community engagement.

The PAO team messed up but your take is ill informed.
Your schtick is acting like the only veteran on this board . You're not. The military brass is full of incompetent sycophants who do stupid things. This person having a Twitter account is a liability. My take is informed.


So if you think the 3* is managing her own Twitter account please see yourself out of the conversation.
Whose name is on the account? Do flag officers have accountability for what they put their name on in the Army?

Actually that may be a legitimate question these days.


Bruh. It's the TRADOC DCG's account. So while she's probably going to get teased hardcore by her peers no ones throwing a fuss over it.

The issue this board is taking is that a Butch female 3* "made" the post. The theoretical implication is that "Look the GO's are nothing but a bunch D&I obsessed people who don't know their own military."

When the reality is her staff didn't double check and pay closer to attention to a bunch of multi cam wearing dudes in an A-400M.

Mistake? Sure.

Indicative of anything else? Nope.
It is hard to ignore the context which is this small and absurd error is coming on the heels of a display of gross military incompetence on the part of our general officer corps, and it is not just a twitter hiccup occurring in a vacuum.


PAOs, as BAP points out, have made mistakes for time immemorial.

That doesn't mean they are not any less an important mechanism to pull levers of national power nor does it mean they are a some sort of indicator of military failure.

The withdrawal IS a failure and this IS a Twitter hiccup...but tying them together is engaging in Sypderman or OPAG-like leaps of logic.

You're trying to make linkages where none exist in order to support a political view point.
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K2-HMFIC said:

Jayhawk said:

K2-HMFIC said:

Jayhawk said:

K2-HMFIC said:

Jayhawk said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BAP Enthusiast said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BAP Enthusiast said:

Dirk Diggler said:

Right or wrong 99% chance she didn't post that, it was a Major or Captain aide / staff member. Lieutenant Colonel Battalion Commanders and Colonel Brigade Commanders don't even manage their social media pages. It's a PAO (public affairs officer ). She prob has several.


Why the hell does anyone not a 4 star general or admiral have an official social media account?


To communicate with their personnel and interested parties.

By your argument Lackland or any installation shouldn't have a public affairs team.


They need a Twitter account to do this? I guess communication was just terrible through Desert Storm. Hell even the original invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq after 9/11 had none of this and we seemed much better off.

These people don't need Twitter accounts and should not be giving statements to the public.


So the military just invades countries?

Kewl.

Remind me during a natural disaster, some sort of training incident, or any community engagement.

The PAO team messed up but your take is ill informed.
Your schtick is acting like the only veteran on this board . You're not. The military brass is full of incompetent sycophants who do stupid things. This person having a Twitter account is a liability. My take is informed.


So if you think the 3* is managing her own Twitter account please see yourself out of the conversation.
Whose name is on the account? Do flag officers have accountability for what they put their name on in the Army?

Actually that may be a legitimate question these days.


Bruh. It's the TRADOC DCG's account. So while she's probably going to get teased hardcore by her peers no ones throwing a fuss over it.

The issue this board is taking is that a Butch female 3* "made" the post. The theoretical implication is that "Look the GO's are nothing but a bunch D&I obsessed people who don't know their own military."

When the reality is her staff didn't double check and pay closer to attention to a bunch of multi cam wearing dudes in an A-400M.

Mistake? Sure.

Indicative of anything else? Nope.
It is hard to ignore the context which is this small and absurd error is coming on the heels of a display of gross military incompetence on the part of our general officer corps, and it is not just a twitter hiccup occurring in a vacuum.


PAOs, as BAP points out, have made mistakes for time immemorial.

That doesn't mean they are not any less an important mechanism to pull levers of national power nor does it mean they are a some sort of indicator of military failure.

The withdrawal IS a failure and this IS a Twitter hiccup...but tying them together is engaging in Sypderman or OPAG-like leaps of logic.

You're trying to make linkages where none exist in order to support a political view point.
I disagree. The bureaucracy's obsession with optics and their use of a banal media strategy that appears to be out of some type of Army Field Manual on the subject appears linked to the brass's inability to make good strategic and operational calculations. They glam onto this Twitter thing, probably generate a contract with Booz Allen to coach their PAO team on how to run a general officer twitter feed (at no small expense) .. and still fail. That is not insignificant. Same reason why if a college football program has trouble managing their equipment and logistics of gameday it is a very good bet that their product on the field will underperform as well.
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K2-HMFIC said:

Jayhawk said:

K2-HMFIC said:

Jayhawk said:

K2-HMFIC said:

Jayhawk said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BAP Enthusiast said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BAP Enthusiast said:

Dirk Diggler said:

Right or wrong 99% chance she didn't post that, it was a Major or Captain aide / staff member. Lieutenant Colonel Battalion Commanders and Colonel Brigade Commanders don't even manage their social media pages. It's a PAO (public affairs officer ). She prob has several.


Why the hell does anyone not a 4 star general or admiral have an official social media account?


To communicate with their personnel and interested parties.

By your argument Lackland or any installation shouldn't have a public affairs team.


They need a Twitter account to do this? I guess communication was just terrible through Desert Storm. Hell even the original invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq after 9/11 had none of this and we seemed much better off.

These people don't need Twitter accounts and should not be giving statements to the public.


So the military just invades countries?

Kewl.

Remind me during a natural disaster, some sort of training incident, or any community engagement.

The PAO team messed up but your take is ill informed.
Your schtick is acting like the only veteran on this board . You're not. The military brass is full of incompetent sycophants who do stupid things. This person having a Twitter account is a liability. My take is informed.


So if you think the 3* is managing her own Twitter account please see yourself out of the conversation.
Whose name is on the account? Do flag officers have accountability for what they put their name on in the Army?

Actually that may be a legitimate question these days.


Bruh. It's the TRADOC DCG's account. So while she's probably going to get teased hardcore by her peers no ones throwing a fuss over it.

The issue this board is taking is that a Butch female 3* "made" the post. The theoretical implication is that "Look the GO's are nothing but a bunch D&I obsessed people who don't know their own military."

When the reality is her staff didn't double check and pay closer to attention to a bunch of multi cam wearing dudes in an A-400M.

Mistake? Sure.

Indicative of anything else? Nope.
It is hard to ignore the context which is this small and absurd error is coming on the heels of a display of gross military incompetence on the part of our general officer corps, and it is not just a twitter hiccup occurring in a vacuum.


PAOs, as BAP points out, have made mistakes for time immemorial.

That doesn't mean they are not any less an important mechanism to pull levers of national power nor does it mean they are a some sort of indicator of military failure.

The withdrawal IS a failure and this IS a Twitter hiccup...but tying them together is engaging in Sypderman or OPAG-like leaps of logic.

You're trying to make linkages where none exist in order to support a political view point.


Sorry this is a weak defense of the general.

If her subordinates take a hill successfully in a battle, she gets the credit and maybe another medal on that overloaded uniform.

But if her lieutenants blow an assault under her orders and purview, she takes no blame ? She can just blame an incompetent subordinate she placed in that position for the failure? Poor argument.

The general is in a position of authority here. Her name is on the account. She's ultimately responsible through vicarious liability. And I agree w the arguments above about these military Twitter accounts. They are a liability. From the outside looking in as a nonmilitary person they are at best superfluous and expose us to unforced errors. Save em only for the very top brass if you save em at all.
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I disagree. The bureaucracy's obsession with optics and their use of a banal media strategy that appears to be out of some type of Army Field Manual on the subject appears linked to the brass's inability to make good strategic and operational calculations.


Some interesting points here. If you are talking about how MDMP has corrupted the Army's ability to understand the strategic and political implications...there's an argument to be had. Specifically how the Army's obsession with COIN and Advising lulled us into a false sense of success.

The specific assumption that CENTCOM made was that the ANSF would be able to hold out beyond our retrograde was a major one. How that assumption came to be...should be the subject of the OEF's version of Dereliction of Duty.

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They glam onto this Twitter thing, probably generate a contract with Booz Allen to coach their PAO team on how to run a general officer twitter feed (at no small expense) .. and still fail. That is not insignificant.


Ok. Again...conflating issues. I'm not sure contractors can do public affairs...but the military is required to communicate and message what it is doing and how it is doing it. Are mistakes made? Sure.

But that's like attributing Haynes tipped interception to Jimbo's skill as a coach.

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Same reason why if a college football program has trouble managing their equipment and logistics of gameday it is a very good bet that their product on the field will underperform as well.


Bad analogy. Comparing a program that's the size of an armored units mx company to DoD is extreme. You need to be able to separate out one off mistakes from systemic problematic trends.

There IS a discussion to be had on how the Army's obsession with COIN led the US into geo-political dead end.

But to conflate it with a random mistake is bad interpretation.
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For those defending the LTG for Tweeting out that a bunch of pasty white Britons were American GIs, saying that she doesn't run her own Twitter account.

Go have a scroll through her past tweets and after looking at all the tweets about her dogs and the accomplishments of females in the Army, are you going to tell me there's some poor Public Affairs CPT who has to sit around and crank out those tweets like a Chinese Bot farm?
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AggieMD95 said:

K2-HMFIC said:

Jayhawk said:

K2-HMFIC said:

Jayhawk said:

K2-HMFIC said:

Jayhawk said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BAP Enthusiast said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BAP Enthusiast said:

Dirk Diggler said:

Right or wrong 99% chance she didn't post that, it was a Major or Captain aide / staff member. Lieutenant Colonel Battalion Commanders and Colonel Brigade Commanders don't even manage their social media pages. It's a PAO (public affairs officer ). She prob has several.


Why the hell does anyone not a 4 star general or admiral have an official social media account?


To communicate with their personnel and interested parties.

By your argument Lackland or any installation shouldn't have a public affairs team.


They need a Twitter account to do this? I guess communication was just terrible through Desert Storm. Hell even the original invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq after 9/11 had none of this and we seemed much better off.

These people don't need Twitter accounts and should not be giving statements to the public.


So the military just invades countries?

Kewl.

Remind me during a natural disaster, some sort of training incident, or any community engagement.

The PAO team messed up but your take is ill informed.
Your schtick is acting like the only veteran on this board . You're not. The military brass is full of incompetent sycophants who do stupid things. This person having a Twitter account is a liability. My take is informed.


So if you think the 3* is managing her own Twitter account please see yourself out of the conversation.
Whose name is on the account? Do flag officers have accountability for what they put their name on in the Army?

Actually that may be a legitimate question these days.


Bruh. It's the TRADOC DCG's account. So while she's probably going to get teased hardcore by her peers no ones throwing a fuss over it.

The issue this board is taking is that a Butch female 3* "made" the post. The theoretical implication is that "Look the GO's are nothing but a bunch D&I obsessed people who don't know their own military."

When the reality is her staff didn't double check and pay closer to attention to a bunch of multi cam wearing dudes in an A-400M.

Mistake? Sure.

Indicative of anything else? Nope.
It is hard to ignore the context which is this small and absurd error is coming on the heels of a display of gross military incompetence on the part of our general officer corps, and it is not just a twitter hiccup occurring in a vacuum.


PAOs, as BAP points out, have made mistakes for time immemorial.

That doesn't mean they are not any less an important mechanism to pull levers of national power nor does it mean they are a some sort of indicator of military failure.

The withdrawal IS a failure and this IS a Twitter hiccup...but tying them together is engaging in Sypderman or OPAG-like leaps of logic.

You're trying to make linkages where none exist in order to support a political view point.


Sorry this is a weak defense of the general.

If her subordinates take a hill successfully in a battle, she gets the credit and maybe another medal on that overloaded uniform.

But if her lieutenants blow an assault under her orders and purview, she takes no blame ? She can just blame an incompetent subordinate she placed in that position for the failure? Poor argument.

The general is in a position of authority here. Her name is on the account. She's ultimately responsible through vicarious liability. And I agree w the arguments above about these military Twitter accounts. They are a liability. From the outside looking in as a nonmilitary person they are at best superfluous and expose us to unforced errors. Save em only for the very top brass if you save em at all.


Information is a National lever of power if you try to control it at only the top level, you will find the Chinese running circles around you.

Is it the General's responsibility? Sure.

But to conflate it to combat is extreme.

I'm assuming your a doctor, but it's like comparing a receptionist at who got caught picking her nose to a doctor who nicked an artery.
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HollywoodBQ said:

For those defending the LTG for Tweeting out that a bunch of pasty white Britons were American GIs, saying that she doesn't run her own Twitter account.

Go have a scroll through her past tweets and after looking at all the tweets about her dogs and the accomplishments of females in the Army, are you going to tell me there's some poor Public Affairs CPT who has to sit around and crank out those tweets like a Chinese Bot farm?
She sounds like the typical government liar. Undoubtedly, she's a political leftist.
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My main question is why do we have people managing our military's public image who don't check the provenance of the material they publicize or know what our military looks like. Or know how to pluralize words in English.

I don't know enough about our military structure to know who that reflects poorly upon, but it's someone.
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Ulrich said:

My main question is why do we have people managing our military's public image who don't check the provenance of the material they publicize or know what our military looks like. Or know how to pluralize words in English.

I don't know enough about our military structure to know who that reflects poorly upon, but it's someone.
Government bureaucrats are never held to the same standard that one in the private sector would be held.
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M1Buckeye said:

HollywoodBQ said:

For those defending the LTG for Tweeting out that a bunch of pasty white Britons were American GIs, saying that she doesn't run her own Twitter account.

Go have a scroll through her past tweets and after looking at all the tweets about her dogs and the accomplishments of females in the Army, are you going to tell me there's some poor Public Affairs CPT who has to sit around and crank out those tweets like a Chinese Bot farm?
She sounds like the typical government liar. Undoubtedly, she's a political leftist.


Yea. She ain't running her own account. Look like normal posts.



She's also straight.
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I don't care who posted it, I'm just completely dumbfounded by the lack of attention to detail.
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Should we also be concerned about the inability to properly pluralize "hero"?
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K2-HMFIC said:

M1Buckeye said:

HollywoodBQ said:

For those defending the LTG for Tweeting out that a bunch of pasty white Britons were American GIs, saying that she doesn't run her own Twitter account.

Go have a scroll through her past tweets and after looking at all the tweets about her dogs and the accomplishments of females in the Army, are you going to tell me there's some poor Public Affairs CPT who has to sit around and crank out those tweets like a Chinese Bot farm?
She sounds like the typical government liar. Undoubtedly, she's a political leftist.


Yea. She ain't running her own account. Look like normal posts.



She's also straight.
She states in her Twitter profile that she's married to a man and has a child.

I'm guessing you haven't spent as much time coaching women's softball as I have. Or living in Austin.

I wouldn't jump to conclusions so fast.

No straight woman cuts her hair that short unless she's recovering from chemo.
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K2-HMFIC said:









Deployment experiences may vary
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K2-HMFIC said:

Yea. She ain't running her own account. Look like normal posts.
So somebody has to sit around and crank these out on her behalf? Wow. Great use of Govt funds.



Cat pictures for crying out loud.
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Cue "why not both" meme. She could have access for personal stuff, and a staffer who posts day to day
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CanyonAg77 said:

Cue "why not both" meme. She could have access for personal stuff, and a staffer who posts day to day
Seems like we'd be better served if she had neither. Or she could have a personal twitter account like everyone else and never let slip that a general officer or their staff can't recognize foreign bullpup weapons and mistake British soldiers for our own.
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HollywoodBQ said:

K2-HMFIC said:

M1Buckeye said:

HollywoodBQ said:

For those defending the LTG for Tweeting out that a bunch of pasty white Britons were American GIs, saying that she doesn't run her own Twitter account.

Go have a scroll through her past tweets and after looking at all the tweets about her dogs and the accomplishments of females in the Army, are you going to tell me there's some poor Public Affairs CPT who has to sit around and crank out those tweets like a Chinese Bot farm?
She sounds like the typical government liar. Undoubtedly, she's a political leftist.


Yea. She ain't running her own account. Look like normal posts.



She's also straight.
She states in her Twitter profile that she's married to a man and has a child.

I'm guessing you haven't spent as much time coaching women's softball as I have. Or living in Austin.

I wouldn't jump to conclusions so fast.

No straight woman cuts her hair that short unless she's recovering from chemo.


I take it you haven't been around Senior Female Military officers from that generation.
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Jayhawk said:

CanyonAg77 said:

Cue "why not both" meme. She could have access for personal stuff, and a staffer who posts day to day
Seems like we'd be better served if she had neither. Or she could have a personal twitter account like everyone else and never let slip that a general officer or their staff can't recognize foreign bullpup weapons and mistake British soldiers for our own.



She should be keeping them separate.

GEN Abrams, Gen Holmes, Lt Gen Hinote, and MG Donahoe all have private Twitter accounts...that they post personal opinion on.

Their official ones are for official activities.
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K2-HMFIC said:

I take it you haven't been around Senior Female Military officers from that generation.
You busted me. I was in Armor.
The only time we saw females was on the rare occasion that there was a female fuel handler feeding our tanks.
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HollywoodBQ said:

K2-HMFIC said:

I take it you haven't been around Senior Female Military officers from that generation.
You busted me. I was in Armor.
The only time we saw females was on the rare occasion that there was a female fuel handler feeding our tanks.


Younger females give them serious grief for it updating their haircut beyond eighties tennis players.
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how stupid is America to allow incompetents to rise in rank.
brits in uniform are not American,
brits talk funny so at least i know that.
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