This is what happens when you elevate someone to a higher status just because of their job: teachers, military, doctors, nurses. **** all that. I don't care what you do for a living...let me know who you really are. I will never convey hero status on you just because.

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torrid said:

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For what it's worth, I think she posted it as a warning about the domestic use of military forces. She's highlighting how a soldier would react differently to such a situation vs. a police officer, no gloating about shooting civilians.

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I don't know how you got that from those 14 seconds. She was embracing the idea of getting to point her gun at civilians and tell people what to do. She has the attitude of a North Korean labor camp guard.

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Because there's an actual video out there 3x as long where she explains.

Then you don't have any sort of comprehension. If the armed forces are deployed on its own country, she's telling you the truth.

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Then you don't have any sort of comprehension. If the armed forces are deployed on its own country, she's telling you the truth.

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Here's the thing: most major insurgencies in the past 100 years have been successful. Organized indigenous militaries lacking popular support fall apart because they lack a cohesive purpose for existence. That is why most of Mexican history experienced revolution.

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Esteban du Plantier said:

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More than 300 MILLION privately owned guns.

Unless they plan on bombing the suburbs, the fight wouldn't be as lopsided as they fantasize.

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LMFAO. You think our semi auto AR builds and and 9mm sigs and glocks and absolutely zero organization would have any chance at defending itself from the actual US armed forces? Serious question.

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The entirety of our entire armed forces numbers less than 1/2 of 1% of the US population. And that includes the cooks, beauracrats, and lots of other people that don't regularly go around shooting people or being shot at. And don't forgot that all of those armed forces might not even end up fighting on the same side.

So yes, I do think they would have a chance.

In some ways disorganization is a plus in an insurrection as it makes it harder for the organized force to root out their oppposition. All it takes is a collective willpower to take action.

The worst case scenario would be for the organized force to take pre-emptive action against the people. That's why things like gun registries and other "lists" must be prevented at all costs.

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Esteban du Plantier said:

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More than 300 MILLION privately owned guns.

Unless they plan on bombing the suburbs, the fight wouldn't be as lopsided as they fantasize.

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LMFAO. You think our semi auto AR builds and and 9mm sigs and glocks and absolutely zero organization would have any chance at defending itself from the actual US armed forces? Serious question.

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Guerrilla warriors have successfully held off the military before.

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No doubt. I mean we've seen it in several of our own wars, but the those guerillas have usually been fighting amongst eachother and at least have some sort of organization. In this case, we do not.

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torrid said:

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For what it's worth, I think she posted it as a warning about the domestic use of military forces. She's highlighting how a soldier would react differently to such a situation vs. a police officer, no gloating about shooting civilians.

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I don't know how you got that from those 14 seconds. She was embracing the idea of getting to point her gun at civilians and tell people what to do. She has the attitude of a North Korean labor camp guard.

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Because there's an actual video out there 3x as long where she explains.

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Link? searching "attention seeking *** threatens civilians" brings up too many hits.

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The worst case scenario would be for the organized force to take pre-emptive action against the people. That's why things like gun registries and other "lists" must be prevented at all costs.

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100%. I often wonder how we would react if there is a day where they threaten to take our guns. How would we react?

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torrid said:

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For what it's worth, I think she posted it as a warning about the domestic use of military forces. She's highlighting how a soldier would react differently to such a situation vs. a police officer, no gloating about shooting civilians.

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I don't know how you got that from those 14 seconds. She was embracing the idea of getting to point her gun at civilians and tell people what to do. She has the attitude of a North Korean labor camp guard.

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Because there's an actual video out there 3x as long where she explains.

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Link? searching "attention seeking *** threatens civilians" brings up too many hits.

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TikTok channel
https://www.tiktok.com/@nuggets_n_chicken

Direct link to video
https://www.tiktok.com/@nuggets_n_chicken/video/7000234225395944710

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torrid said:

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For what it's worth, I think she posted it as a warning about the domestic use of military forces. She's highlighting how a soldier would react differently to such a situation vs. a police officer, no gloating about shooting civilians.

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I don't know how you got that from those 14 seconds. She was embracing the idea of getting to point her gun at civilians and tell people what to do. She has the attitude of a North Korean labor camp guard.

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Because there's an actual video out there 3x as long where she explains.

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Link? searching "attention seeking *** threatens civilians" brings up too many hits.

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I saw it on til tok yesterday. Not sticking up for this dudes approach, but the video was taken out of context, that's all I was trying to say.

Yeah, but our past wars against guerrilla warriors has always been constrained by a left leaning and sympathetic media as well as soft ROE. I can assure you that the media would ignore any and all human rights abuses against anyone standing in the way of the leftist ideology, and a leftist regime that was hellbent on enforcing dogma would take the gloves off the soldiers.

What she is saying is true. It's big reason I was very much against Trump deploying the military during the riots.

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Her point was "if the government tells me to turn on you, I will do it and you will obey or die."

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My point to her is if the government tells her to turn on me, I will be armed...

I wouldn't put too much stock in one butch idiot on tiktok.

The vast majority of the military have no interest in turning on the populace.

If this fella was in my organization I'd find a way to show them the door.

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For what it's worth, I think she posted it as a warning about the domestic use of military forces. She's highlighting how a soldier would react differently to such a situation vs. a police officer, no gloating about shooting civilians.

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Yeah it seems like the first part was cut off in the OP. Here's the whole deal:

https://www.comicsands.com/soldier-conservative-overthrow-government-tiktok-2654802705.html?fbclid=IwAR0ryXcVYtDlOmewbY0TQE7yKVmz4gtYv1K_-JPLtdtHWeZNraiYOkHAd7A

Yeah, she's taking a swipe at a conservative, but the person she/he was responding to was saying some pretty ignorant stuff.

Lol SSG Rapinoe wannabe is just some REMF

SSG Cindy Rena Bronson is a 88M Motor Transport Operator Staff Non-Commissioned Officer stationed out of Fort Bliss

She would be involved in coordinating the bus for the field trip, not pulling the trigger.

Shame on you, @Nuggetsnchicken can you even max DL?

👀—@FortBlissTexas https://t.co/gaAWZn8pLf pic.twitter.com/IMT2IQKQiN

— 𝙼𝙰𝚂𝚂 𝙴𝚡𝚙𝚎𝚍𝚒𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗 (@MASSExpedition) August 27, 2021

Say when

Didn't read thru thread but she is apparently (per her own tik tok) an 88M (truck driver.) I am pretty sure she...won't make E-7 after wearing her uniform in some of that crap but then again I haven't been in the Army for a long time.

Amusing moron is all I've got.

Exhibit A of why just cause you're a soldier doesn't mean you're good

She needs to up her knife hand game if she plans on intimidating anyone with her words.

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Esteban du Plantier said:

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More than 300 MILLION privately owned guns.

Unless they plan on bombing the suburbs, the fight wouldn't be as lopsided as they fantasize.

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LMFAO. You think our semi auto AR builds and and 9mm sigs and glocks and absolutely zero organization would have any chance at defending itself from the actual US armed forces? Serious question.

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That's what the Russians thought about the Afghans in the 80's, the Mexicans thought about the Alamo, the British and the Colonists... Even if it came to that, I'll take the chance that there are more service members like us than there like Bronson there. If ordered to shoot civilians, I would like to believe that those orders would be disobeyed. And if not, I would prefer to go down shooting than to live in that dystopian future.

...Hell, I would drive the riding lawn-mower with the nuke attached straight into Vegas myself.

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Lol SSG Rapinoe wannabe is just some REMF

SSG Cindy Rena Bronson is a 88M Motor Transport Operator Staff Non-Commissioned Officer stationed out of Fort Bliss

She would be involved in coordinating the bus for the field trip, not pulling the trigger.

Shame on you, @Nuggetsnchicken can you even max DL?

👀—@FortBlissTexas https://t.co/gaAWZn8pLf pic.twitter.com/IMT2IQKQiN

— 𝙼𝙰𝚂𝚂 𝙴𝚡𝚙𝚎𝚍𝚒𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗 (@MASSExpedition) August 27, 2021

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Nice attempt to crawfish her way out of a military tribunal...hope she enjoys her dishonorable discharge.

Can I order the Code Red?

Sounds like she talked to a combat service support barracks lawyer!

Honestly I don't understand what she's trying to convey, and her follow up tweet doesn't help. Don't really care which side she's on, she can't make a lucid argument...

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The full video is not much better.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CTEv1RTgLuZ/

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I stand by my original reaction. She is not advocating shooting civilians. She is offering her opinion on what would happen if martial law were declared, that soldiers who are not trained in law enforcement but in eliminating threats would view armed people as a threat.

You may not like that she's a lesbian, you may not like her politics, you may disagree with her on what martial law would entail. However, I think everyone is misinterpreting the intent of her video.

torrid said:

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OldArmyBrent said:

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The full video is not much better.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CTEv1RTgLuZ/

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I stand by my original reaction. She is not advocating shooting civilians. She is offering her opinion on what would happen if martial law were declared, that soldiers who are not trained in law enforcement but in eliminating threats would view armed people as a threat.

You may not like that she's a lesbian, you may not like her politics, you may disagree with her on what martial law would entail. However, I think everyone is misinterpreting the intent of her video.

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You are missing some finer details.

"If YOU do not get in your house when I tell you to, YOU become the enemy"
She is putting herself in her fantasy of killing those she disagrees with.

Why do I say that?

Look at her facial expressions when she says
"You don't have those same freedoms the Constitution guarantees at that point"

Finishing with
"So be careful what you wish for"

Let's see how that **** works in Texas! Lol.

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No I don't think honesty will be in play. But I didn't say anything like that. I just think it may split, rather than be monolithic. And agree with you that the point is they will do what ordered the overwhelming majority of the time. Police or soldiers alike.

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Police can walk away without repercussions other than job action. Soldiers risk UCMJ action/prosecution.