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ABATTBQ87 said:

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Bonfire1996 said:

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aginresearch said:

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I wouldn't be surprised if vulnerable moderate Democrats start making noise soon. Democratic leadership knows two things. Biden is going to kill them politically in the midterms. However, they also know that removing him now would 100% ensure none of their remaining agenda gets past a 50/50 senate. They are between a rock and a hard place. Sucks to be them right now.

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This is accurate. They will be forced to choose the least bad option. The least bad, for them, is President Harris and a punchers chance at retaining the Senate in 2022.

Leave Biden in there and the Senate goes Red and the GOP owns 275 seats in the House

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This is why Republicans should not push for impeachment or replacement of the President right now.

Let the Democrats suffer for the next year

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**** no. Get their tiebreaker out of the Senate and keep things gridlocked until 2022 elections are over.

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Dos Tasadores De TAMU said:

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The problem is Islam.

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Beetle 92 said:

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YellowPot_97 said:

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Beetle 92 said:

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BAP Enthusiast said:

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titan said:

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texagbeliever said:

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titan said:

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Consider --- suicide bombing when you have won a war? Its kind of -- contradictory for a Taliban to do just now. On the other hand, the reverse is true for any number of other causes. We will see.

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While truly sad, i think i read how in Iraq, mentally disabled people would have to be chained up because the terrorist insurgents liked to use them as suicide bombers because they would be oblivious.

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After they had WON? That's the essential thing here. A suicide bomber is actually a valuable resource for an entity to have at their disposal. You use them for turning tides or sending message --- victories by nature everyone wants to bathe in it.

On the other hand, some of the usual suspects of Syria front would make more sense.

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This seems like a false flag by the CIA. Why would they do this after they won? It makes zero sense, especially when they are trying to legitimize their government.

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I don't think this is a false flag.

This was well planned and well executed.

Look what this accomplished

1- killed a bunch of American sympathizers who were at or near the airport trying to get out of the collapsing county. Will cause the remaining ones to leave and to be collected later by the Taly for "re-education".

2- caused the airport to close. Further locking out the American and allies trying to get in. Sets them up for easier collection later for ransom.

3- killed a couple of US servicemen. Always a bonus for the enemy.

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Don't waste your time engaging this guy. He carries more water for the Taliban than a camel.

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[ ITHINK HE WAS TELLING YOU TO IGNORE THE POSTER YOU QUOTED. EVEN IF IT WAS DIRECTED AT YOU, YOU'D STILL GET A TIMEOUT FOR YOUR REPLY. -STAFF]

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zephyr88 said:

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Dos Tasadores De TAMU said:

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The problem is Islam.

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And there's not one damn thing we can do about that until we are willing to blow it off the map.

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nhamp07 said:

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zephyr88 said:

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Dos Tasadores De TAMU said:

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The problem is Islam.

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And there's not one damn thing we can do about that until we are willing to blow it off the map.

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You kinda sound like a radical Islamist...

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torrid said:

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Still makes no sense to me for the Taliban to attack the Americans when they are literally within days of getting what they have wanted for twenty years. Damn, I'm becoming a Taliban apologist.

I can see the ones at the top not wanting to attack the Americans, but having a hard time keeping lower-level jihadists in line amid all the chaos. I guess I can also see splinter group in the Taliban using ISIS-K or whoever as a proxy to attack US troops and keep pressure on while maintaining plausible deniability.

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torrid said:

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Still makes no sense to me for the Taliban to attack the Americans when they are literally within days of getting what they have wanted for twenty years. Damn, I'm becoming a Taliban apologist.

I can see the ones at the top not wanting to attack the Americans, but having a hard time keeping lower-level jihadists in line amid all the chaos. I guess I can also see splinter group in the Taliban using ISIS-K or whoever as a proxy to attack US troops and keep pressure on while maintaining plausible deniability.

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Beetle 92 said:


I don't think this is a false flag.

This was well planned and well executed.

Look what this accomplished

1- killed a bunch of American sympathizers who were at or near the airport trying to get out of the collapsing county. Will cause the remaining ones to leave and to be collected later by the Taly for "re-education".

2- caused the airport to close. Further locking out the American and allies trying to get in. Sets them up for easier collection later for ransom.

3- killed a couple of US servicemen. Always a bonus for the enemy.

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DallasAg 94 said:

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Pelosi and House Democrats "We are out of here." They apparently want no part of this mess.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-afghanistan-pelosi-biden-terror

Looks like those at the kid's table will have to ride this out alone. Waiting to find out if Harris is gone, as well.

There is a Humpty Dumpty illustration here, somewhere.

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torrid said:

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Still makes no sense to me for the Taliban to attack the Americans when they are literally within days of getting what they have wanted for twenty years. Damn, I'm becoming a Taliban apologist.

I can see the ones at the top not wanting to attack the Americans, but having a hard time keeping lower-level jihadists in line amid all the chaos. I guess I can also see splinter group in the Taliban using ISIS-K or whoever as a proxy to attack US troops and keep pressure on while maintaining plausible deniability.

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Tramp96 said:

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torrid said:

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Still makes no sense to me for the Taliban to attack the Americans when they are literally within days of getting what they have wanted for twenty years. Damn, I'm becoming a Taliban apologist.

I can see the ones at the top not wanting to attack the Americans, but having a hard time keeping lower-level jihadists in line amid all the chaos. I guess I can also see splinter group in the Taliban using ISIS-K or whoever as a proxy to attack US troops and keep pressure on while maintaining plausible deniability.

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I think Beetle 92 explains how it benefits the Tally-Bon pretty well:

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Beetle 92 said:


I don't think this is a false flag.

This was well planned and well executed.

Look what this accomplished

1- killed a bunch of American sympathizers who were at or near the airport trying to get out of the collapsing county. Will cause the remaining ones to leave and to be collected later by the Taly for "re-education".

2- caused the airport to close. Further locking out the American and allies trying to get in. Sets them up for easier collection later for ransom.

3- killed a couple of US servicemen. Always a bonus for the enemy.

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zephyr88 said:

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Dos Tasadores De TAMU said:

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The problem is Islam.

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And there's not one damn thing we can do about that until we are willing to blow it off the map.

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javajaws said:

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We were clearly warned somehow. I don't have faith in our intelligence over there to have gotten that warning ourselves. So most likely the story of the Taliban getting wind of an ISIS attack and warning us is true. The Taliban has shown moderate restraint so far in letting foreigners out and it doesn't make sense to attack a cornered dog at this point.

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fightintxag13 said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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Picture from near Baron Gate, Kabul airport. Explosion just now. #Afgahnistan pic.twitter.com/jypJkS0YxJ

— Gareth Browne (@BrowneGareth) August 26, 2021

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You voted for this, as a reminder.

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No, YOU voted for it. Who made the deal, released 5,000 prisoners and drew our troops down to 2,000?

Trump had planned to leave Afghanistan 1st May, having removed over 14000 soldiers leaving under 2000
Apparently the statement confirming this was deleted from the internet pic.twitter.com/VbecTIdD6c

— 🐝🆒🆗👍 (@joekdublin) August 25, 2021

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But remember, Biden said himself, "The buck stops with me."

Bold statement for a guy who was leading an absolute **** show for an evac operation.

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Sarge 91 said:

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At 8 am this morning, I heard a radio report that a Taliban spokesperson told the press it had given intel to the US of a non specific threat that ISIS was going to carry out to discredit the Taliban. Sounds like this is it.

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YellowPot_97 said:

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Beetle 92 said:

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YellowPot_97 said:

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Beetle 92 said:

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BAP Enthusiast said:

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titan said:

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texagbeliever said:

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titan said:

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Consider --- suicide bombing when you have won a war? Its kind of -- contradictory for a Taliban to do just now. On the other hand, the reverse is true for any number of other causes. We will see.

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While truly sad, i think i read how in Iraq, mentally disabled people would have to be chained up because the terrorist insurgents liked to use them as suicide bombers because they would be oblivious.

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After they had WON? That's the essential thing here. A suicide bomber is actually a valuable resource for an entity to have at their disposal. You use them for turning tides or sending message --- victories by nature everyone wants to bathe in it.

On the other hand, some of the usual suspects of Syria front would make more sense.

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This seems like a false flag by the CIA. Why would they do this after they won? It makes zero sense, especially when they are trying to legitimize their government.

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I don't think this is a false flag.

This was well planned and well executed.

Look what this accomplished

1- killed a bunch of American sympathizers who were at or near the airport trying to get out of the collapsing county. Will cause the remaining ones to leave and to be collected later by the Taly for "re-education".

2- caused the airport to close. Further locking out the American and allies trying to get in. Sets them up for easier collection later for ransom.

3- killed a couple of US servicemen. Always a bonus for the enemy.

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Don't waste your time engaging this guy. He carries more water for the Taliban than a camel.

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[ ITHINK HE WAS TELLING YOU TO IGNORE THE POSTER YOU QUOTED. EVEN IF IT WAS DIRECTED AT YOU, YOU'D STILL GET A TIMEOUT FOR YOUR REPLY. -STAFF]

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Beetle, I was saying for you not to waste your time with BAP. He's done nothing but goal tend for those goat ****ers since they rolled into Kabul

ETA, staff cut the guy a break. This is an emotional issue for everyone that has had to deal with the Mid East. His response was totally appropriate if I had directed that to him.

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MousepadMarauder said:

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Conspiracy theory - Biden and dems rope-a-doped. Feigned weakness waiting for an attack to give them an excuse to show how strong on foreign policy they are and send in troops to clean things up.

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richardag said:

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Sarge 91 said:

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At 8 am this morning, I heard a radio report that a Taliban spokesperson told the press it had given intel to the US of a non specific threat that ISIS was going to carry out to discredit the Taliban. Sounds like this is it.

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Could be. However, the Taliban may be setting up ISIS to take the blame and suffer international contempt. Would be a win win for Taliban, escape responsibility, blame an enemy, kill Afghanistan civilians the consider irredeemable and potentially kill Americans possibly American soldiers.

As someone pointed out earlier, "The same Taliban that have had the entire airport perimeter and surrounding area layered with multiple checkpoints but let two suicide bombers and multiple armed shooters inside this perimeter?"

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The U.S. ambassador in Kabul has told staff there that four U.S. Marines were killed in an explosion at the city's airport and three wounded, a U.S. official with knowledge of the briefing said. Two explosions ripped through crowds of Afghans trying to enter the airport on Thursday.

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deddog said:

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Tramp96 said:

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torrid said:

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Still makes no sense to me for the Taliban to attack the Americans when they are literally within days of getting what they have wanted for twenty years. Damn, I'm becoming a Taliban apologist.

I can see the ones at the top not wanting to attack the Americans, but having a hard time keeping lower-level jihadists in line amid all the chaos. I guess I can also see splinter group in the Taliban using ISIS-K or whoever as a proxy to attack US troops and keep pressure on while maintaining plausible deniability.

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I think Beetle 92 explains how it benefits the Tally-Bon pretty well:

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Beetle 92 said:


I don't think this is a false flag.

This was well planned and well executed.

Look what this accomplished

1- killed a bunch of American sympathizers who were at or near the airport trying to get out of the collapsing county. Will cause the remaining ones to leave and to be collected later by the Taly for "re-education".

2- caused the airport to close. Further locking out the American and allies trying to get in. Sets them up for easier collection later for ransom.

3- killed a couple of US servicemen. Always a bonus for the enemy.

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Also, both sides blame ISIS - the Taliban doesn't want competition.

The POTUS blames ISIS because he doesn't want to appear weak.
The Taliban blame ISIS because they get to kill Americans and face no repurcussions.
Plus they killed a bunch of Afghans, Taliban gets to play the "were moderate, ISIS is extreme" card.
And Biden will send them money "in good faith" to reconstruct Afghanistan

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