Consolidated Fall of Kabul Update Thread

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StandUpforAmerica said:

This didn't age well...


Come on, man! That was 7 days ago!
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will25u said:


Please resign.
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will25u said:




I resign. That's all you should say.
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will25u said:


er, 8:35pm-ish
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it looks like the US citizens and afghan terps and other helpers are ****ed and going to die badly, pretty certain now.

however, i just dont see the logistical capability of avoiding a military disaster either.

our 5200 troops are literally hostages. If they make a determined effort to interdict the runways, attack incoming aircraft, and storm the airport, i can't see any chance of a US military victory or even a dunkirk style disaster with a silver lining.

worse, the taliban seem to be learning from or working with the modern left media, and US some troops might even think they can surrender and survive to be ransomed. maybe they even can - that could be a plan.

bottom line, we can only get 5200 troops out alive if they allow it.

that's how bad it is. potentially the worst event in US military history.
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planoaggie123 said:

Don't worry guys....they had plans for all possible scenarios....
THIS IS THE BIDEN PLAN! He says he made the call and also that this is the only way it was going to go, ergo this is what he wanted. He needs to be made to own it.
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will25u said:



Sooo 10pm.
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Nope, gonna tell us how well things are going. "Those who really want out are going to get out". /drool
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****ing unreal, all of it. Our government is spending night and day doing **** it has no business doing and ignoring one of the few things it is supposed to do.
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Republicans requesting Pelosi to call congress to session to consider legislation to extend the deadline. About to get even more interesting.
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jellycheese said:

I Have Spoken said:

So, Afghanistan is exactly what it was when we showed up? Awesome.
Its worse.
The Taliban now has better equipment, better funding, and FAR better morale than it did following the 9/11 attack.
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Translation of ISIS news statement:



Looks like Taliban forces were killed too. This whole thing is about to get ultra convoluted again.
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So not only was it bad enough that we gave them the weapons now we've given them the list of people to target as well.

Jesus Christ

How can I a normal civilian with no military or Intel or command experience know this is a horrible idea yet the people charge don't.

Gross incompetence of the highest possible order.
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will25u said:

CAN IT GET WORSE?


This administration would fall for a ****ing scam call. FFS
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Even if the Taliban had the best of intentions (riiiiiiight) .. they are not going to stand around the perimeter and absorb VBIED attacks. These are not professional soldiers, they are irregular militia in it for the loot and rapine.

If ISIS-K really brings the heat then there will be no perimeter. It will be US military vs ISIS-K at the fenceline, with no feasible way to call in fire support because of the proximity of dense urban terrain.

This was 100% avoidable but not ceding Bagram.
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Yep and blame Trump, gaslight us, and tell us to get the vaccine, wear a mask, climate change is real, and the problem is white supremacists not the Taliban or Isis
Tramp96
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Rockdoc said:

Nope, gonna tell us how well things are going. "Those who really want out are going to get out". /drool
"We've evacuated 100,000 people. We've done a herculean task."
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BAP Enthusiast said:

will25u said:

Meanwhile....

Sergeants Major of the Army...




When you focus on this, you get results like today.
Go woke go broke?
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We gave them a ****ing kill list???? What the **** is going on
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Jayhawk said:

Even if the Taliban had the best of intentions (riiiiiiight) .. they are not going to stand around the perimeter and absorb VBIED attacks. These are not professional soldiers, they are irregular militia in it for the loot and rapine.

If ISIS-K really brings the heat then there will be no perimeter. It will be US military vs ISIS-K at the fenceline, with no feasible way to call in fire support because of the proximity of dense urban terrain.

This was 100% avoidable but not ceding Bagram.


Yeah, a controlled withdrawal like the Soviets would have prevented all of this. The Taliban still would have taken over but there would have been virtually no chaos. What a joke our leadership has proven to be.
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Jsimonds58 said:

We gave them a ****ing kill list???? What the **** is going on
Taliban playing chess while our dimwits play checkers.
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Get Off My Lawn
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One caveat: potentially worst SELF INFLICTED event. The death tolls from single battles in previous wars are unimaginable for our modern sensibilities.
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Mr. AGSPRT04 said:

BAP Enthusiast said:

will25u said:

Meanwhile....

Sergeants Major of the Army...




When you focus on this, you get results like today.
Go woke go broke?


Go woke, get embarrassed by 15th century goat herders
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Catag94 said:

Republicans requesting Pelosi to call congress to session to consider legislation to extend the deadline. About to get even more interesting.


They should be forced to sit in their chambers until every last American is brought out safely.
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Currently a happy listless vessel and deplorable. #FDEMS TRUMP 2024.
Fight Fight Fight.
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Jsimonds58 said:



We gave them a ****ing kill list???? What the **** is going on


The absolute state of US foreign policy, incompetence from top to bottom. This is Benghazi times 1,000,000.
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atmtws said:

Catag94 said:

Republicans requesting Pelosi to call congress to session to consider legislation to extend the deadline. About to get even more interesting.


They should be forced to sit in their chambers until every last American is brought out safely.


Agreed
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Hoping it's our guys
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Catag94 said:

Republicans requesting Pelosi to call congress to session to consider legislation to extend the deadline. About to get even more interesting.


It won't happen. This is just Republicans trying to tie Nancy to this disaster. Now they can say she was complicit in abandoning Americans.
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