Ags77 said:

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From everything i have heard this is close to a done deal. Maybe announced in weeks. The Ags and Miz appear to be the only 2 no votes. It takes 11 yes votes and if you think about it, we are the ONLY school that loses by adding tu.

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Spot on.

It will be a unanimous vote within four weeks.

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Artorias said:

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Ags77 said:

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From everything i have heard this is close to a done deal. Maybe announced in weeks. The Ags and Miz appear to be the only 2 no votes. It takes 11 yes votes and if you think about it, we are the ONLY school that loses by adding tu.

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False. Ultimately, every school in the SEC will lose, just like the SWC and B12. SEC schools just aren't wise enough to see it.

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Are you saying lose money ? Quite the opposite i would say.

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Prove it. Where is the additional money coming from to now be split 17 ways?

Perhaps, but wanting and needing <> being able to compete with A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, and of course Alabama. It doesn't make sense to me from an SEC standpoint, but at the same time, I am not really sure I care at this point. As a number of posters have said NIL opened the door for college sports to become minor league NFL. I predict two things will happen

1) The NFL will in fact get involved, and throw money behind this. They may already be doing that discretely, but if not I suspect they will. Whether we know it or not.

2) The women's sports will stir the pot. Everyone seems to focus on football, but what happens when the best women's college basketball player gets a $1,000 NIL deal, and the best college football player gets $1,000,000? Just look at the women's soccer team as one example.

If the NCAA does in fact go to the way side, what about eligibility? Who is going to dictate that? This is probably less likely, but what is going to keep "College Football" from literally becoming a professional alternative to NFL?

This whole decisions seems rushed, and poorly thought out.

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Ags77 said:

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From everything i have heard this is close to a done deal. Maybe announced in weeks. The Ags and Miz appear to be the only 2 no votes. It takes 11 yes votes and if you think about it, we are the ONLY school that loses by adding tu.

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Spot on.

It will be a unanimous vote within four weeks.

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I cant see any condition we vote yes, doc. I say its 12-2 for texas and maybe unanimous for ou.

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Artorias said:

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Ags77 said:

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From everything i have heard this is close to a done deal. Maybe announced in weeks. The Ags and Miz appear to be the only 2 no votes. It takes 11 yes votes and if you think about it, we are the ONLY school that loses by adding tu.

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False. Ultimately, every school in the SEC will lose, just like the SWC and B12. SEC schools just aren't wise enough to see it.

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Are you saying lose money ? Quite the opposite i would say.

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I mean Texas will do what they have always done. Throw their money and weight around and take over the conference admin in the long run, at the expense of all the other schools.

And before you say it couldn't happen to the SEC, Nebraska, OU and the other B8 schools thought the same thing when forming the B12.

aggiehawg said:

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Ags77 said:

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Artorias said:

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Ags77 said:

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From everything i have heard this is close to a done deal. Maybe announced in weeks. The Ags and Miz appear to be the only 2 no votes. It takes 11 yes votes and if you think about it, we are the ONLY school that loses by adding tu.

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False. Ultimately, every school in the SEC will lose, just like the SWC and B12. SEC schools just aren't wise enough to see it.

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Are you saying lose money ? Quite the opposite i would say.

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Prove it. Where is the additional money coming from to now be split 17 ways?

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The SEC did very well $$ when we joined . Tu and Ou will bring in money also.

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dermdoc said:

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aggiehawg said:

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dermdoc said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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SEC does not want them

Sips are toxic and the longhorn network is an anchor around their neck.

SEC has said this multiple times.

The sips bring them nothing that they want.

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Sip network is ESPN which has the SEC network so that is not a hindrance.

Sips bring them money.

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The only way that works is the LHN becomes a SEC alternate network that broadcasts only SEC contests and nothing longhorn specific. Dodd's Folly, indeed.

If the sips really brought eyeballs and money, Fox would want to keep them in the Big XII. When the conference media partner doesn't GAS if their two top brands depart, then they are a loosing proposition.

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I think what started this whole thing was when Fox blinked at a new tv contract for the Big 12.

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Yes Doc and also tu and ou know the disadvantage they have in recruiting. They will both get a bump when the have the SEC to sell.

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Their recruiting has suffered because Austin is becoming more and more of a **** hole, and the coaching has been terrible, not because they don't play A&M once a year. If they were winning, they would get the recruits.

Artorias said:

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Ags77 said:

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From everything i have heard this is close to a done deal. Maybe announced in weeks. The Ags and Miz appear to be the only 2 no votes. It takes 11 yes votes and if you think about it, we are the ONLY school that loses by adding tu.

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False. Ultimately, every school in the SEC will lose, just like the SWC and B12. SEC schools just aren't wise enough to see it.

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You're still thinking like the old ways matter. They don't, at all. I don't think many of you realize how groundbreaking and gamechanging the NIL is on college sports. It's THE biggest change in history by a giant margin, even moreso than the creation of the NCAA itself.

Nothing that happened in the past matters because they have legalized bagmen. Every school's boosters can now spend money openly and pay players.

This is like comparing literature before and after the printing press. It's a different world now and everything you know will change.

Many of us tried to tell you things like this were coming but no one wanted to listen.

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NIL is a likely fatal injury to college athletics.

Once the Supreme Court hears the case over whether or not schools can pay players directly simply for playing, then that will be the coup de grace.

It will be about 10-12 big money schools, and no one else. Odds are most universities outside of those tagging along with the big money schools, will simply drop most if not all athletics.

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Yep, it almost starts looking like professional soccer leagues at that point specifically the EPL. You will have a few programs that permanently separate themselves from the pack.

How though?

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Perhaps, but wanting and needing <> being able to compete with A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, and of course Alabama. It doesn't make sense to me from an SEC standpoint, but at the same time, I am not really sure I care at this point. As a number of posters have said NIL opened the door for college sports to become minor league NFL. I predict two things will happen

1) The NFL will in fact get involved, and throw money behind this. They may already be doing that discretely, but if not I suspect they will. Whether we know it or not.

2) The women's sports will stir the pot. Everyone seems to focus on football, but what happens when the best women's college basketball player gets a $1,000 NIL deal, and the best college football player gets $1,000,000? Just look at the women's soccer team as one example.

If the NCAA does in fact go to the way side, what about eligibility? Who is going to dictate that? This is probably less likely, but what is going to keep "College Football" from literally becoming a professional alternative to NFL?

This whole decisions seems rushed, and poorly thought out.

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There are already female athletes leaking million dollar deals. Of course the women getting them all look like models but still. In the modern world social media matters and the women with giant followings because they are hot will be guaranteed huge paydays.

Women's basketball will be irrelevant money wise because every player looks like a goblin. Volleyball, tennis, golf, gymnastics, and possibly softball will be huge winners here.

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Artorias said:

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Ags77 said:

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From everything i have heard this is close to a done deal. Maybe announced in weeks. The Ags and Miz appear to be the only 2 no votes. It takes 11 yes votes and if you think about it, we are the ONLY school that loses by adding tu.

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False. Ultimately, every school in the SEC will lose, just like the SWC and B12. SEC schools just aren't wise enough to see it.

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You're still thinking like the old ways matter. They don't, at all. I don't think many of you realize how groundbreaking and gamechanging the NIL is on college sports. It's THE biggest change in history by a giant margin, even moreso than the creation of the NCAA itself.

Nothing that happened in the past matters because they have legalized bagmen. Every school's boosters can now spend money openly and pay players.

This is like comparing literature before and after the printing press. It's a different world now and everything you know will change.

Many of us tried to tell you things like this were coming but no one wanted to listen.

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Agreed. I see a lot of "past performance will dictate future results" commentary.

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Ags77 said:

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dermdoc said:

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aggiehawg said:

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dermdoc said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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SEC does not want them

Sips are toxic and the longhorn network is an anchor around their neck.

SEC has said this multiple times.

The sips bring them nothing that they want.

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Sip network is ESPN which has the SEC network so that is not a hindrance.

Sips bring them money.

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The only way that works is the LHN becomes a SEC alternate network that broadcasts only SEC contests and nothing longhorn specific. Dodd's Folly, indeed.

If the sips really brought eyeballs and money, Fox would want to keep them in the Big XII. When the conference media partner doesn't GAS if their two top brands depart, then they are a loosing proposition.

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I think what started this whole thing was when Fox blinked at a new tv contract for the Big 12.

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Yes Doc and also tu and ou know the disadvantage they have in recruiting. They will both get a bump when the have the SEC to sell.

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Their recruiting has suffered because Austin is becoming more and more of a **** hole, and the coaching has been terrible, not because they don't play A&M once a year. If they were winning, they would get the recruits.

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My friend, trust me on this. They are losing kids right and left because kids want to play in the SEC. Its not because they dont play us... its THEIR LEAGUE isnt very good. Its the single biggest tool we have in recruiting. Being the only school in texas that is in the SEC. Trust me, i know football.

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Artorias said:

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Ags77 said:

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From everything i have heard this is close to a done deal. Maybe announced in weeks. The Ags and Miz appear to be the only 2 no votes. It takes 11 yes votes and if you think about it, we are the ONLY school that loses by adding tu.

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False. Ultimately, every school in the SEC will lose, just like the SWC and B12. SEC schools just aren't wise enough to see it.

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You're still thinking like the old ways matter. They don't, at all. I don't think many of you realize how groundbreaking and gamechanging the NIL is on college sports. It's THE biggest change in history by a giant margin, even moreso than the creation of the NCAA itself.

Nothing that happened in the past matters because they have legalized bagmen. Every school's boosters can now spend money openly and pay players.

This is like comparing literature before and after the printing press. It's a different world now and everything you know will change.

Many of us tried to tell you things like this were coming but no one wanted to listen.

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So you are arguing that Texas joining the SEC will have no negative affect on the SEC long term?

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aggiehawg said:

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Ags77 said:

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Artorias said:

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Ags77 said:

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From everything i have heard this is close to a done deal. Maybe announced in weeks. The Ags and Miz appear to be the only 2 no votes. It takes 11 yes votes and if you think about it, we are the ONLY school that loses by adding tu.

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False. Ultimately, every school in the SEC will lose, just like the SWC and B12. SEC schools just aren't wise enough to see it.

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Are you saying lose money ? Quite the opposite i would say.

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Prove it. Where is the additional money coming from to now be split 17 ways?

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The SEC did very well $$ when we joined . Tu and Ou will bring in money also.

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So you have zero evidence that sips and sooners bring enough to the table to pay their own freight, then.

None.

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Nitro Power said:

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Perhaps, but wanting and needing <> being able to compete with A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, and of course Alabama. It doesn't make sense to me from an SEC standpoint, but at the same time, I am not really sure I care at this point. As a number of posters have said NIL opened the door for college sports to become minor league NFL. I predict two things will happen

1) The NFL will in fact get involved, and throw money behind this. They may already be doing that discretely, but if not I suspect they will. Whether we know it or not.

2) The women's sports will stir the pot. Everyone seems to focus on football, but what happens when the best women's college basketball player gets a $1,000 NIL deal, and the best college football player gets $1,000,000? Just look at the women's soccer team as one example.

If the NCAA does in fact go to the way side, what about eligibility? Who is going to dictate that? This is probably less likely, but what is going to keep "College Football" from literally becoming a professional alternative to NFL?

This whole decisions seems rushed, and poorly thought out.

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There are already female athletes leaking million dollar deals. Of course the women getting them all look like models but still. In the modern world social media matters and the women with giant followings because they are hot will be guaranteed huge paydays.

Women's basketball will be irrelevant money wise because every player looks like a goblin. Volleyball, tennis, golf, gymnastics, and possibly softball will be huge winners here.

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The difference being winning a Softball championship adds no value, so why pay top dollar for the premier athletes. The ROI would be negative.

aggiehawg said:

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Ags77 said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Ags77 said:

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Artorias said:

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Ags77 said:

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From everything i have heard this is close to a done deal. Maybe announced in weeks. The Ags and Miz appear to be the only 2 no votes. It takes 11 yes votes and if you think about it, we are the ONLY school that loses by adding tu.

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False. Ultimately, every school in the SEC will lose, just like the SWC and B12. SEC schools just aren't wise enough to see it.

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Are you saying lose money ? Quite the opposite i would say.

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Prove it. Where is the additional money coming from to now be split 17 ways?

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The SEC did very well $$ when we joined . Tu and Ou will bring in money also.

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So you have zero evidence that sips and sooners bring enough to the table to pay their own freight, then.

None.

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Im not privy to the books, lol. But if you dont think Tu and Ou will bring eyeballs and attendance and generate money, well lets leave it at that.

Ags77 said:

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Artorias said:

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Ags77 said:

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From everything i have heard this is close to a done deal. Maybe announced in weeks. The Ags and Miz appear to be the only 2 no votes. It takes 11 yes votes and if you think about it, we are the ONLY school that loses by adding tu.

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False. Ultimately, every school in the SEC will lose, just like the SWC and B12. SEC schools just aren't wise enough to see it.

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Are you saying lose money ? Quite the opposite i would say.

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Short term it sounds great for them. I mean Vandy and the Mississippi schools get a nice little extra payday. Same thing happened with the Big 12. Texas is happy for them to get an extra $5 or $10 million now while Texas gets $50 million and uses their power to slowly crush them like a grape. Texas only allows you to be a victim or a lackey, and eventually the lackeys get screwed (looking at you Baylor and Tech), OU is on deck they just don't know it yet.

These SEC schools have no idea the forces they are dealing with in regards to Texas, they think they will just be another new member and submit to being a partner like everyone else. What they don't understand is Texas enjoys destroying other programs even more than winning.

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Clob94 said:

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This is what happens when courts say kids can get paid.


Texas has access to check books like no other school with a solid athletic program.


Moving to the SEC provides the Bass family, the McCombs (the big cigars, as we call them) the ability to starr throwing millions at top recruits. College football is about to be SOLELY about the haves and have nots.

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They can do that where they are, too.

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You'd think so.... but they won't. Why? Because nobody else will be doing it. Or at least nobody of any consequence like Texas will be able to in the Big 12. SEC has more money and higher stakes. Billionaires have egos. It's no fun out bidding Iowa st for a 5 star linebacker. But if you out bid Texas A&M, well, there's something that they'll crow about.

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Ags77 said:

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Artorias said:

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Ags77 said:

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From everything i have heard this is close to a done deal. Maybe announced in weeks. The Ags and Miz appear to be the only 2 no votes. It takes 11 yes votes and if you think about it, we are the ONLY school that loses by adding tu.

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False. Ultimately, every school in the SEC will lose, just like the SWC and B12. SEC schools just aren't wise enough to see it.

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Are you saying lose money ? Quite the opposite i would say.

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Short term it sounds great for them. I mean Vandy and the Mississippi schools get a nice little extra payday. Same thing happened with the Big 12. Texas is happy for them to get an extra $5 or $10 million now while Texas gets $50 million and uses their power to slowly crush them like a grape. Texas only allows you to be a victim or a lackey, and eventually the lackeys get screwed (looking at you Baylor and Tech), OU is on deck they just don't know it yet.

These SEC schools have no idea the forces they are dealing with in regards to Texas, they think they will just be another new member and submit to being a partner like everyone else. What they don't understand is Texas enjoys destroying other programs even more than winning.

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Not arguing that.

aggiehawg said:

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Ags77 said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Ags77 said:

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Artorias said:

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Ags77 said:

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From everything i have heard this is close to a done deal. Maybe announced in weeks. The Ags and Miz appear to be the only 2 no votes. It takes 11 yes votes and if you think about it, we are the ONLY school that loses by adding tu.

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False. Ultimately, every school in the SEC will lose, just like the SWC and B12. SEC schools just aren't wise enough to see it.

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Are you saying lose money ? Quite the opposite i would say.

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Prove it. Where is the additional money coming from to now be split 17 ways?

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The SEC did very well $$ when we joined . Tu and Ou will bring in money also.

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So you have zero evidence that sips and sooners bring enough to the table to pay their own freight, then.

None.

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There's no question adding tu and OU would mean more money for the SEC in terms of TV deals. More teams = more products (games) to sell to media companies. The better the team the better the product looks to someone trying to sell advertisers and subscriptions.

The question in my mind is, is it worth it to bring in tu who never ceases to stab conferences and conference members in the back for its own self-interest. I say there is no amount of money that would justify bringing them in for that.

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aggiehawg said:

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Ags77 said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Ags77 said:

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Artorias said:

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Ags77 said:

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From everything i have heard this is close to a done deal. Maybe announced in weeks. The Ags and Miz appear to be the only 2 no votes. It takes 11 yes votes and if you think about it, we are the ONLY school that loses by adding tu.

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False. Ultimately, every school in the SEC will lose, just like the SWC and B12. SEC schools just aren't wise enough to see it.

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Are you saying lose money ? Quite the opposite i would say.

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Prove it. Where is the additional money coming from to now be split 17 ways?

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The SEC did very well $$ when we joined . Tu and Ou will bring in money also.

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So you have zero evidence that sips and sooners bring enough to the table to pay their own freight, then.

None.

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Im not privy to the books, lol. But if you dont think Tu and Ou will bring eyeballs and attendance and generate money, well lets leave it at that.

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I see what you are saying, but just don't find it to be so. SEC games already have the product. Texas coming in doesn't really add much. People who want to watch good football watch the SEC, while people who watch the Longhorns do so because they support them, not because it is a good product. Hope that makes sense.

I have zero confidence the powers-that-be in the SEC will be able to see past the short term $$$ enough to see the long term destruction adding Texas will bring.

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That assumes they have political power to stop this. When we moved to the SEC I don't think it took an act of the legislature to do anything. I think they can sign whatever realignment deals they want to, but if I'm wrong I'm wrong.

If you're Tech, Baylor etc what can you do? Options off the top of my head:
1. Lobby the politicians to make a law
2. Get the PAC or Big to write a big money offer to you and tu/OU so you have a life raft
3. Go quietly into the night
4. Sue for tortuous interference lol.

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The breakup of the SWC required Richards and Bullock going along and Texas including Baylor and Tech. A&M leaving for the SEC fired up all the political forces as well but the moment Dodds said that the Big 12 would survive without us it lost its legs.

This move will absolutely destroy the ADs at Tech, Baylor, and TCU and is against the interests of A&M. That isn't just going to go quietly into the night because Texas wants to make a few more bucks.

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aggiehawg said:

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Ags77 said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Ags77 said:

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Artorias said:

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Ags77 said:

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From everything i have heard this is close to a done deal. Maybe announced in weeks. The Ags and Miz appear to be the only 2 no votes. It takes 11 yes votes and if you think about it, we are the ONLY school that loses by adding tu.

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False. Ultimately, every school in the SEC will lose, just like the SWC and B12. SEC schools just aren't wise enough to see it.

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Are you saying lose money ? Quite the opposite i would say.

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Prove it. Where is the additional money coming from to now be split 17 ways?

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The SEC did very well $$ when we joined . Tu and Ou will bring in money also.

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So you have zero evidence that sips and sooners bring enough to the table to pay their own freight, then.

None.

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Im not privy to the books, lol. But if you dont think Tu and Ou will bring eyeballs and attendance and generate money, well lets leave it at that.

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If they did, why are the Big XII media partners essentially letting them go? They are losing propositions. They can't generate ratings for Fox. The $$$ are not there.

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Nitro Power said:

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Ags77 said:

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dermdoc said:

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aggiehawg said:

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dermdoc said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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SEC does not want them

Sips are toxic and the longhorn network is an anchor around their neck.

SEC has said this multiple times.

The sips bring them nothing that they want.

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Sip network is ESPN which has the SEC network so that is not a hindrance.

Sips bring them money.

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The only way that works is the LHN becomes a SEC alternate network that broadcasts only SEC contests and nothing longhorn specific. Dodd's Folly, indeed.

If the sips really brought eyeballs and money, Fox would want to keep them in the Big XII. When the conference media partner doesn't GAS if their two top brands depart, then they are a loosing proposition.

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I think what started this whole thing was when Fox blinked at a new tv contract for the Big 12.

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Yes Doc and also tu and ou know the disadvantage they have in recruiting. They will both get a bump when the have the SEC to sell.

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Their recruiting has suffered because Austin is becoming more and more of a **** hole, and the coaching has been terrible, not because they don't play A&M once a year. If they were winning, they would get the recruits.

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My friend, trust me on this. They are losing kids right and left because kids want to play in the SEC. Its not because they dont play us... its THEIR LEAGUE isnt very good. Its the single biggest tool we have in recruiting. Being the only school in texas that is in the SEC. Trust me, i know football.

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Agree.

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BAP Enthusiast said:

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Artorias said:

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Ags77 said:

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From everything i have heard this is close to a done deal. Maybe announced in weeks. The Ags and Miz appear to be the only 2 no votes. It takes 11 yes votes and if you think about it, we are the ONLY school that loses by adding tu.

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False. Ultimately, every school in the SEC will lose, just like the SWC and B12. SEC schools just aren't wise enough to see it.

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You're still thinking like the old ways matter. They don't, at all. I don't think many of you realize how groundbreaking and gamechanging the NIL is on college sports. It's THE biggest change in history by a giant margin, even moreso than the creation of the NCAA itself.

Nothing that happened in the past matters because they have legalized bagmen. Every school's boosters can now spend money openly and pay players.

This is like comparing literature before and after the printing press. It's a different world now and everything you know will change.

Many of us tried to tell you things like this were coming but no one wanted to listen.

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So you are arguing that Texas joining the SEC will have no negative affect on the SEC long term?

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I'm saying that anything that happened in the past no longer matters. Trying to make any predictions on positive or negative effects is completely folly. The only thing we do know for certain is that massive change is coming.

Texas can cheat but with legalized bagmen, why would they? The SEC with this decision will de facto become the kingmaker, it should be obvious why it is happening. They can basically give a finger to the NCAA and then do what they want.

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Ags77 said:

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Nitro Power said:

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Ags77 said:

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dermdoc said:

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aggiehawg said:

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dermdoc said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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SEC does not want them

Sips are toxic and the longhorn network is an anchor around their neck.

SEC has said this multiple times.

The sips bring them nothing that they want.

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Sip network is ESPN which has the SEC network so that is not a hindrance.

Sips bring them money.

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The only way that works is the LHN becomes a SEC alternate network that broadcasts only SEC contests and nothing longhorn specific. Dodd's Folly, indeed.

If the sips really brought eyeballs and money, Fox would want to keep them in the Big XII. When the conference media partner doesn't GAS if their two top brands depart, then they are a loosing proposition.

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I think what started this whole thing was when Fox blinked at a new tv contract for the Big 12.

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Yes Doc and also tu and ou know the disadvantage they have in recruiting. They will both get a bump when the have the SEC to sell.

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Their recruiting has suffered because Austin is becoming more and more of a **** hole, and the coaching has been terrible, not because they don't play A&M once a year. If they were winning, they would get the recruits.

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My friend, trust me on this. They are losing kids right and left because kids want to play in the SEC. Its not because they dont play us... its THEIR LEAGUE isnt very good. Its the single biggest tool we have in recruiting. Being the only school in texas that is in the SEC. Trust me, i know football.

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Agree.

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As do I, but how do you explain Oklahoma then?

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BAP Enthusiast said:

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Nitro Power said:

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Perhaps, but wanting and needing <> being able to compete with A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, and of course Alabama. It doesn't make sense to me from an SEC standpoint, but at the same time, I am not really sure I care at this point. As a number of posters have said NIL opened the door for college sports to become minor league NFL. I predict two things will happen

1) The NFL will in fact get involved, and throw money behind this. They may already be doing that discretely, but if not I suspect they will. Whether we know it or not.

2) The women's sports will stir the pot. Everyone seems to focus on football, but what happens when the best women's college basketball player gets a $1,000 NIL deal, and the best college football player gets $1,000,000? Just look at the women's soccer team as one example.

If the NCAA does in fact go to the way side, what about eligibility? Who is going to dictate that? This is probably less likely, but what is going to keep "College Football" from literally becoming a professional alternative to NFL?

This whole decisions seems rushed, and poorly thought out.

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There are already female athletes leaking million dollar deals. Of course the women getting them all look like models but still. In the modern world social media matters and the women with giant followings because they are hot will be guaranteed huge paydays.

Women's basketball will be irrelevant money wise because every player looks like a goblin. Volleyball, tennis, golf, gymnastics, and possibly softball will be huge winners here.

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The difference being winning a Softball championship adds no value, so why pay top dollar for the premier athletes. The ROI would be negative.

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THINK about it for a minute. Some of these collegiate athletes have Instagram accounts with more than 1 million followers. Do you not see the enormous endorsement potential here? There are already women inking endorsements of close to or more than a million. Hell the highest paid female athlete may by a damn gymnast from LSU.

Women may not like it, but women are going to be paid not according to their skills but to how good looking they are.

Not trying to pedantic but are there actual powers apart from a bully pulpit that the governor or legislature have here currently? A&M and the remaining B12 members may hate it but tu just says "tough s."

Let's put this into perspective. The last time the sips tried to crater the Big XII, ESPN stepped up with a 300 million dollar LHN deal to stop them. They were believed to be a brand back then and worth it.

But they are not worth it to Fox to lift a finger to stop them this time.

Ask yourself why. Remember it is not like ESPN is as flush with cash as they were just 11 years ago and they are more than willing to walk away from the LHN as a sunk cost. How much did they lose on the LHN all told? One hundred million? More?

Right, but I am talking about only sports. The pretty women athletes will get theirs regardless of sport, or even if they don't play sports. As you mentioned it is based on looks.

I am more referring to the standout sports star who is not attractive. I project there will come a time they are going to want someone to pony up. Time will tell.

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SEC does not want them

Sips are toxic and the longhorn network is an anchor around their neck.

SEC has said this multiple times.

The sips bring them nothing that they want.

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Sip network is ESPN which has the SEC network so that is not a hindrance.

Sips bring them money.

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The only way that works is the LHN becomes a SEC alternate network that broadcasts only SEC contests and nothing longhorn specific. Dodd's Folly, indeed.

If the sips really brought eyeballs and money, Fox would want to keep them in the Big XII. When the conference media partner doesn't GAS if their two top brands depart, then they are a loosing proposition.

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I think what started this whole thing was when Fox blinked at a new tv contract for the Big 12.

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Yes Doc and also tu and ou know the disadvantage they have in recruiting. They will both get a bump when the have the SEC to sell.

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Their recruiting has suffered because Austin is becoming more and more of a **** hole, and the coaching has been terrible, not because they don't play A&M once a year. If they were winning, they would get the recruits.

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My friend, trust me on this. They are losing kids right and left because kids want to play in the SEC. Its not because they dont play us... its THEIR LEAGUE isnt very good. Its the single biggest tool we have in recruiting. Being the only school in texas that is in the SEC. Trust me, i know football.

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Agree.

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As do I, but how do you explain Oklahoma then?

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Who has OU beaten in a big game(the Florida thing was a joke)when it mattered? Particularly against the SEC?

They are always exposed after they win the Big 12 every year.

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Let's put this into perspective. The last time the sips tried to crater the Big XII, ESPN stepped up with a 300 million dollar LHN deal to stop them. They were believed to be a brand back then and worth it.

But they are not worth it to Fox to lift a finger to stop them this time.

Ask yourself why. Remember it is not like ESPN is as flush with cash as they were just 11 years ago and they are more than willing to walk away from the LHN as a sunk cost. How much did they lose on the LHN all told? One hundred million? More?

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You make a great point. The sips are desperate or would never make this move. They will never admit it but this is very humbling.

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From everything i have heard this is close to a done deal. Maybe announced in weeks. The Ags and Miz appear to be the only 2 no votes. It takes 11 yes votes and if you think about it, we are the ONLY school that loses by adding tu.

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False. Ultimately, every school in the SEC will lose, just like the SWC and B12. SEC schools just aren't wise enough to see it.

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You're still thinking like the old ways matter. They don't, at all. I don't think many of you realize how groundbreaking and gamechanging the NIL is on college sports. It's THE biggest change in history by a giant margin, even moreso than the creation of the NCAA itself.

Nothing that happened in the past matters because they have legalized bagmen. Every school's boosters can now spend money openly and pay players.

This is like comparing literature before and after the printing press. It's a different world now and everything you know will change.

Many of us tried to tell you things like this were coming but no one wanted to listen.

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So you are arguing that Texas joining the SEC will have no negative affect on the SEC long term?

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I'm saying that anything that happened in the past no longer matters. Trying to make any predictions on positive or negative effects is completely folly. The only thing we do know for certain is that massive change is coming.

Texas can cheat but with legalized bagmen, why would they? The SEC with this decision will de facto become the kingmaker, it should be obvious why it is happening. They can basically give a finger to the NCAA and then do what they want.

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I've seen Texas destroy 2 conferences, and it had nothing to do with cheating. They are a cancer and would F over their own mothers if it got them 1% more power at the table