FAA wants airline industry to fight decades of sexism by removing "cockpit"

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stetson
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Your daily dose of PC insanity...

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"Research shows that the utilization of general-neutral language can lead to a more inclusive environment that draws more people to the industry and helps keep them there,"
I think that is supposed to read "gender-neutral", but we all know the media is crap. Riiight, I'm sure a tremendous number of women are avoiding becoming pilots because of words. Scary words like cockpit and airman.

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By bringing more female representation into the industry, airlines could help combat a shortage of pilots that threatens to halt a post pandemic boom in travel.
Straw man argument.

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Though, gender neutral terminology will not target the lack of minority representation in the industry.
No doubt the committee continues to scour FARs, manufacturer and airline manuals for racist terminology.

Origin of the term cockpit:
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It originates from the word coxswain, which was used to describe "the person in charge of a small vessel". It comes from "cock", which was an old English term for a small boat, and "swain" which is a servant. So simply put, a cockswain is a boat servant. Over time, the title led to the steering compartment of smaller boats where the cockswain sat, then the area became known as the cockpit.
But of course these mentally ill people could care less.

https://www.businessinsider.com/faa-recommends-airlines-remove-words-cockpit-airman-for-gender-neutral-2021-6
Cassius
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"Research shows"


Yeah, right.
TxTarpon
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Cosmopolitan Magazine did the survey.
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Ag87H2O
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Bangkok, it was nice knowing you.
Maybe Next Year
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Make. It. Stop. Got Daaaaaaaammit!
peacedude
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Libs take the fun out of everything.


Dacoldest
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Per usual the etymology has nothing to do with what they're complaining about.

late 16th century (in cockpit (sense 2)): from cock1 + pit1. cockpit (sense 1) dates from the early 20th century and derives from an early 18th-century nautical term denoting an area in the aft lower deck of a man-of-war where the wounded were taken, later coming to mean 'the 'pit' or well from which a yacht is steered'; hence the place housing the controls of other vehicles.

https://generalaviationnews.com/2020/09/21/why-is-the-cockpit-called-the-cockpit/

The title comes to us from "cock," an Old English term for a small boat, and "swain," which means servant. A cockswain is a boat servant. Over time, this title led to the steering compartment of smaller boats, where the cockswain sat, being called a cockpit.
AGHouston11
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Don't bring logic or facts into it.
Leftist do not deal with that.
Showertime at the Bidens
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Dacoldest said:

Per usual the etymology has nothing to do with what they're complaining about.

late 16th century (in cockpit (sense 2)): from cock1 + pit1. cockpit (sense 1) dates from the early 20th century and derives from an early 18th-century nautical term denoting an area in the aft lower deck of a man-of-war where the wounded were taken, later coming to mean 'the 'pit' or well from which a yacht is steered'; hence the place housing the controls of other vehicles.

https://generalaviationnews.com/2020/09/21/why-is-the-cockpit-called-the-cockpit/

The title comes to us from "cock," an Old English term for a small boat, and "swain," which means servant. A cockswain is a boat servant. Over time, this title led to the steering compartment of smaller boats, where the cockswain sat, being called a cockpit.


So it was a term used by colonial oppressors. Got it
AgFormerlyInIrving
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Genital Pit?
Fishin Texas Aggie 05
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We need a bloody conflict to get our priorities straight
MGS
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It's the little room in the front of the plane where the pilot sits, but that's not important now.
BQ78
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Pegging Pit, it's what our society has become.
aTm_bomb
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And pilots are paid double what attendants are paid!!! How can this be!?
Get Off My Lawn
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Leftists:
1. Find a thing
2. Kill it
3. Wear its carcass for a fleeting moment of credit
4. Look for the next thing to consume.
Dacoldest
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Get Off My Lawn said:

Leftists:
1. Find a thing
2. Kill it
3. Wear its carcass for a fleeting moment of credit
4. Look for the next thing to consume.
I couldn't put it better - it's caveman behavior
aggiez03
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What is next...

Some Junkie Cosmonaut
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i'm convinced **** like this is solely to drive people with common sense absolutely crazy. all this does is further radicalize both sides.
Chips2003
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It's a cockpit, not a boxoffice.
Aggie521
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We're not going to be able to say balls soon. We will all be watching our kids play base-sphere or something equally ridiculous.
BQ_90
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Cassius said:

"Research shows"


Yeah, right.
probable a govt funded research project
Get Off My Lawn
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I'm not the originator of that perspective, but it's the only thing that makes sense when they come after the nonsensical. "Etymology be damned, this sounds like something I can get credit for attacking!"
CanyonAg77
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As the father of one of the 80 or fewer female fighter pilots in the USAF, I can conform that this is bullcrap.

And if an airline is facing a shortage of pilots, they can pay better, lobby for an older retirement age, and add an ab inito program to train pilots, rather than poaching military pilots or making civilians pay for their own training.
TexAgs91
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This is a total failure on the part of the FAA. A quick search (that they apparently couldn't be bothered with) would tell them that the word comes from "cockswain" which in turn derives from the old English terms for "boat-servant" (coque is the French word for "shell")
No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
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OldArmyBrent
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Though, the Association of Flight Attendants notes women in the industry have continued to struggle with representation, as well as pay the median annual wage for pilots is nearly double a flight attendant's salary, according to federal data.

No ***** It can cost $100k or more to be a qualified pilot, especially after Congress implemented those dumb 1500 hour ATP requirements for FOs. What does it take to be an FA? Do they need type ratings for each different aircraft over 12,500 lbs? Of course pilots make more. They're in charge of the ****ing aircraft.

This is absurd.
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Though, the Association of Flight Attendants notes women in the industry have continued to struggle with representation, as well as pay the median annual wage for pilots is nearly double a flight attendant's salary, according to federal data.


wait until they see how much more a male surgeon makes than the female janitor who wipes down the operating tables.
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Just call it the Bridge like a ship and move on
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Bangkok, it was nice knowing you.
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aggietony2010
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I agree. It's clearly a feminist term.

A cockpit is quite clearly a vagina.
A is A
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New potential names:

*****pit
****pit
Vagcavity
vagpit
*****cabin
Hermpit
Pit-of-all-inclusiveness

OR. just realize it is NOT a compound word of COCK and PIT.

seriously, liberals?
IslanderAg04
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A is A said:

New potential names:

*****pit
****pit
Vagcavity
vagpit
*****cabin
Hermpit
Pit-of-all-inclusiveness

OR. just realize it is NOT a compound word of COCK and PIT.

seriously, liberals?


Dammit, you beat me to it. I like vagpit.
PanzerAggie06
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Isn't this a rather old debate? I thought the airlines had moved to using "flight deck" decades ago.
Ag87H2O
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rocky the dog said:

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Bangkok, it was nice knowing you.

BCG Disciple
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You ever been in a cockpit before?

You ever seen a grown man naked?

Who knew that after 40 years the former would be the more offensive of the two questions.
TriAg2010
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It's all Simon Says. The left picks a widely used term, changes it, and ridicules those who don't follow along.
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