Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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wargograw said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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wargograw said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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wargograw said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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wargograw said:

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Cassius said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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If public schools suck so bad, homeschooling extras should be better as well. Create your own teams and move on.

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Are you bitter?

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Not in the least. I'm for parents doing what they think is best but there are consequences to actions. If the same person isn't good enough to teach your child, why are they good enough to coach them?

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Because they're completely different functions? One guy is "good enough" to make a pizza. The other is "good enough" to roll sushi. When sushi guy makes pizza I choose not to use him. This is an absurd argument on your part.

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Not really. What evidence have you used that they aren't good enough to teach your child or what evidence have you used to determine they are good enough to coach your child? The answer is probably none at all except your preconceived bias.

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How I adjudicate that question isn't any of your business. The point is one can be "good enough" to do one thing and "not good enough" to do the other.

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So it's not my business to know what you are thinking while discussing a subject on a discussion board? Why are you here then?

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You seem to really have a logic issue here and you're trying to deflect.

Let's just boil this down. Do you admit that someone can be qualified to do one thing but not another?

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Answer my question first, please.

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If you can't answer mine then there's no point in me answering yours.

This is a simple yes or no while you're asking for what could be explained in a multi page paper.

Do you admit that someone can be qualified to do one thing but not another? Yes or no?

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Let's just see if that's true. How did you determine that the teacher is incapable of teaching your kid but can clearly coach your child? What metric did you use?

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wargograw said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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wargograw said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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BMX Bandit said:

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It's not like being home school.


But it's no different then being homeschooled with regard to playing athletics at a different school.

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Please explain how it's no different. Because I see the fundamental difference that the kid is enrolled in a public school and we can at least there is some sort of verification of "no pass, no play".

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Clearly you haven't been following Tanya's arguments which are literally "if they're not in 'my' class they can't be on 'my' team." HSP kids are not in her class. Neither you nor her have addressed the blatant contradiction here.

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Teach in small town Texas and get back to me

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Should the HSP kids be allowed to play for their local [normal] public school or not?

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Tanya 93 said:

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backintexas2013 said:

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Funny the Teachers are against this. Wonder why?

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They want kids they teach in their UIL activities?

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BMX Bandit said:

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So with the homeschool kids had to take a test every quarter showing they can pass" would be OK with this?

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BMX Bandit said:

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HSPVA is a public school.

Did you get beat up by some homeschoolers or something? You seem very bitter.

15 years ago, I was one of those people that thought homeschooled kids were all socially awkward etc.

Maybe that was true at one time. But having met several over the years, in many cases they are more well adapted think kids I've met at public and private schools.

We don't homeschool, and frankly I don't have the ability to do it.
But I know several people that are damn good at it, and would love if they could teach my kids also.

Sorry they hurt you so much. Maybe counseling will help you get over the pain

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wargograw said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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wargograw said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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wargograw said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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wargograw said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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wargograw said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Cassius said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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If public schools suck so bad, homeschooling extras should be better as well. Create your own teams and move on.

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Are you bitter?

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Not in the least. I'm for parents doing what they think is best but there are consequences to actions. If the same person isn't good enough to teach your child, why are they good enough to coach them?

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Because they're completely different functions? One guy is "good enough" to make a pizza. The other is "good enough" to roll sushi. When sushi guy makes pizza I choose not to use him. This is an absurd argument on your part.

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Not really. What evidence have you used that they aren't good enough to teach your child or what evidence have you used to determine they are good enough to coach your child? The answer is probably none at all except your preconceived bias.

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How I adjudicate that question isn't any of your business. The point is one can be "good enough" to do one thing and "not good enough" to do the other.

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So it's not my business to know what you are thinking while discussing a subject on a discussion board? Why are you here then?

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You seem to really have a logic issue here and you're trying to deflect.

Let's just boil this down. Do you admit that someone can be qualified to do one thing but not another?

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Answer my question first, please.

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If you can't answer mine then there's no point in me answering yours.

This is a simple yes or no while you're asking for what could be explained in a multi page paper.

Do you admit that someone can be qualified to do one thing but not another? Yes or no?

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Let's just see if that's true. How did you determine that the teacher is incapable of teaching your kid but can clearly coach your child? What metric did you use?

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I've explained on two separate occasions now why I'm not answering that. What's your explanation other than "you first"?

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Do you admit that someone can be qualified to do one thing but not another? Yes or no?

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Let's just see if that's true. How did you determine that the teacher is incapable of teaching your kid but can clearly coach your child? What metric did you use?

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Why they can't teach my kid academically? They are not me or my wife; both of which I have determined are superior educators in math, science, English, poetry, religion, history, music, art, etc. to any public school educator. In the classics, I'll take my ability to teach my kids over anyone else's... Mostly, it comes down to a trust issue with modern educators and my own confidence in our parental abilities. I don't need the services of an "overworked", "underpaid", often-jaded, over-opinionated teacher.

Why they can coach my kids? I know band and soccer - I've played an instrument and played soccer for 30+ years each. I can teach those. But my girls like Dance, Gymnastics, swimming and likely would do track and field. I am unqualified to teach any of those 4 sports; and would defer to a good coach on those areas.

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TexasAggie_02 said:

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Of all the coaches that I also had as teachers throughout middle school and high school, only 1 of them knew anything about the subject they were teaching. That one was the chemistry /physics teacher. All the others taught history, social studies, and geography. The history coaches were worthless, made us take turns reading from the textbook, and hardly ever lectured. We did worksheets and tests that were basically copy pasted from said worksheets. The geography coach made us trace maps out of the textbook while he talked about baseball and Elvis Presley.

I'm sure it's varies from town to town, but in my experience, most coaches only care about coaching, teaching is something they have to do to keep the bills paid.

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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wargograw said:

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wargograw said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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wargograw said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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wargograw said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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wargograw said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Cassius said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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If public schools suck so bad, homeschooling extras should be better as well. Create your own teams and move on.

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Are you bitter?

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Not in the least. I'm for parents doing what they think is best but there are consequences to actions. If the same person isn't good enough to teach your child, why are they good enough to coach them?

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Because they're completely different functions? One guy is "good enough" to make a pizza. The other is "good enough" to roll sushi. When sushi guy makes pizza I choose not to use him. This is an absurd argument on your part.

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Not really. What evidence have you used that they aren't good enough to teach your child or what evidence have you used to determine they are good enough to coach your child? The answer is probably none at all except your preconceived bias.

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How I adjudicate that question isn't any of your business. The point is one can be "good enough" to do one thing and "not good enough" to do the other.

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So it's not my business to know what you are thinking while discussing a subject on a discussion board? Why are you here then?

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You seem to really have a logic issue here and you're trying to deflect.

Let's just boil this down. Do you admit that someone can be qualified to do one thing but not another?

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Answer my question first, please.

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If you can't answer mine then there's no point in me answering yours.

This is a simple yes or no while you're asking for what could be explained in a multi page paper.

Do you admit that someone can be qualified to do one thing but not another? Yes or no?

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Let's just see if that's true. How did you determine that the teacher is incapable of teaching your kid but can clearly coach your child? What metric did you use?

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I've explained on two separate occasions now why I'm not answering that. What's your explanation other than "you first"?

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All you have to do is answer the question I asked. If you aren't going to answer it, there is no reason to continue the conversation.

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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SpreadsheetAg said:

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Do you admit that someone can be qualified to do one thing but not another? Yes or no?

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Let's just see if that's true. How did you determine that the teacher is incapable of teaching your kid but can clearly coach your child? What metric did you use?

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Why they can't teach my kid academically? They are not me or my wife; both of which I have determined are superior educators in math, science, English, poetry, religion, history, music, art, etc. to any public school educator. In the classics, I'll take my ability to teach my kids over anyone else's... Mostly, it comes down to a trust issue with modern educators and my own confidence in our parental abilities. I don't need the services of an "overworked", "underpaid", often-jaded, over-opinionated teacher.

Why they can coach my kids? I know band and soccer - I've played an instrument and played soccer for 30+ years each. I can teach those. But my girls like Dance, Gymnastics, swimming and likely would do track and field. I am unqualified to teach any of those 4 sports; and would defer to a good coach on those areas.

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But how did you come to that determination that no public teacher is better than you but that the football coach is good? That's the real question.

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cevans_40 said:

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It will be interesting so see a home schooled student make it to optional batting practice before school, 5th period athletics in the weight room and then after school practice all while keeping up with their school work. It's gonna be a challenge for many parents.

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Fore Left! said:

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And if you want to test them to make sure they are on grade level before allowing participation for the upcoming school, have at it. 6 weeks is ridiculous because no pass no play is a joke. But if the worry is whether kids leave education entirely to only play sports, that's how you do it

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backintexas2013 said:

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Loving the teachers being so against this. Wonder why?

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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My point is that you created some sort of arbitrary system to support your bias that your smarter than just about everyone else, especially public school teachers who are just too dumb to function in the real world.

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backintexas2013 said:

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But if a parent signs off they are passing is that ok?

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backintexas2013 said:

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But if a parent signs off they are passing is that ok?

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cevans_40 said:

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backintexas2013 said:

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But if a parent signs off they are passing is that ok?

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If you want a less educated public, this is how you get it.

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backintexas2013 said:

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So you think teachers are more honest than parents

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backintexas2013 said:

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Why?

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