UIL and Homeschool

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Carnwellag2
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

So it's pick and choose public education. The classroom isn't good enough, nor are the kids within the school, but they're good enough to play football with.
shouldn't you be happy????

The kid isn't in classroom taking those crowded resources - but will be able to help the team win some championships (maybe). Seems win win to me.

we (and the family) are already paying for the service
backintexas2013
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Funny the Teachers are against this. Wonder why?
Trucker 96
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backintexas2013 said:

Funny the Teachers are against this. Wonder why?


We clearly have a fundamental human psychology issue of dealing with rejection. You reject me? I'm not good enough for you? Well, I'm going to reject YOU!
BMX Bandit
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It's also pretty clear that there are some teachers that really want homeschool kids to fail not only in academics but everything it seems. Oddly, they see them as a threat.

Obviously, that doesn't apply to all teachers.
But that group definitely exists
Tanya 93
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backintexas2013 said:

Funny the Teachers are against this. Wonder why?
They want kids they teach in their UIL activities?
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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BMX Bandit said:

It is.

But earlier today it was said if the student wasn't good enough to be taught by Tanya, then they can't play sports there.

Going to a special magnet school is no different than being homeschooled with regard to their relationship to the sports team at a school they are zoned to


I don't see the two being similar.

And I don't see how going to HSP is like being homeschooled.
Trucker 96
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Tanya 93 said:

backintexas2013 said:

Funny the Teachers are against this. Wonder why?
They want kids they teach in their UIL activities?


Do you work on UIL at a specific time and place that defies the laws of physics by somehow being in a dimension unreachable by homeschool kids? Because I'm pretty sure that if you share it with them, they can make it if it's important to them. Just like a time and place for football practice
BMX Bandit
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It's not like being home school.


But it's no different then being homeschooled with regard to playing athletics at a different school.
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backintexas2013 said:

Funny the Teachers are against this. Wonder why?
This thread is pretty enlightening when it comes to the teachers' responses. Some of the language is actually a bit disturbing. You don't own the activities, the school or the children. You work for the citizens of the state. Maybe a sanity check is needed?
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10andBOUNCE said:

Curious the boards thoughts on homeschoolers participation in UIL. The senate just passed HB547 16-14 so it looks like this will happen after other failed attempts.

We homeschool our son and I personally don't have a major leaning either way, however my wife is pretty fired up. She didn't want this to pass as it may potentially blaze the path to invite more government into our homeschool choices.

https://legiscan.com/TX/text/HB547/id/2215800


Homeschooling. Kids grow up squares and socially unaware.
Trucker 96
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And for those where that's an issue, this is a solution that could help.
AndesAg92
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Fore Left! said:

And for those where that's an issue, this is a solution that could help.


Just go to public school like normal people. Problem solved.
wargograw
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

wargograw said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Cassius said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

If public schools suck so bad, homeschooling extras should be better as well. Create your own teams and move on.


Are you bitter?


Not in the least. I'm for parents doing what they think is best but there are consequences to actions. If the same person isn't good enough to teach your child, why are they good enough to coach them?


Because they're completely different functions? One guy is "good enough" to make a pizza. The other is "good enough" to roll sushi. When sushi guy makes pizza I choose not to use him. This is an absurd argument on your part.


Not really. What evidence have you used that they aren't good enough to teach your child or what evidence have you used to determine they are good enough to coach your child? The answer is probably none at all except your preconceived bias.


How I adjudicate that question isn't any of your business. The point is one can be "good enough" to do one thing and "not good enough" to do the other.
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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BMX Bandit said:


It's not like being home school.


But it's no different then being homeschooled with regard to playing athletics at a different school.
Please explain how it's no different. Because I see the fundamental difference that the kid is enrolled in a public school and we can at least there is some sort of verification of "no pass, no play".
wargograw
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

MediAg13 said:

Coaching a sport and teaching CRT or some *******ized version of American history are not the same thing.
If they teach those things, they clearly aren't smart enough to coach your child well.


Dude you are reaching so hard.

"Your garbage man's really bad when he tries to do your taxes, so they clearly aren't smart enough to pick up your garbage."
Trucker 96
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No pass no play again
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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wargograw said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

wargograw said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Cassius said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

If public schools suck so bad, homeschooling extras should be better as well. Create your own teams and move on.


Are you bitter?


Not in the least. I'm for parents doing what they think is best but there are consequences to actions. If the same person isn't good enough to teach your child, why are they good enough to coach them?


Because they're completely different functions? One guy is "good enough" to make a pizza. The other is "good enough" to roll sushi. When sushi guy makes pizza I choose not to use him. This is an absurd argument on your part.


Not really. What evidence have you used that they aren't good enough to teach your child or what evidence have you used to determine they are good enough to coach your child? The answer is probably none at all except your preconceived bias.


How I adjudicate that question isn't any of your business. The point is one can be "good enough" to do one thing and "not good enough" to do the other.
So it's not my business to know what you are thinking while discussing a subject on a discussion board? Why are you here then?
AndesAg92
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Fore Left! said:

No pass no play again


So home school squares are all smart enough that this wouldn't be an issue?
Trucker 96
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AndesAg92 said:

Fore Left! said:

No pass no play again


So home school squares are all smart enough that this wouldn't be an issue?


No pass no play is a joke
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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wargograw said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

MediAg13 said:

Coaching a sport and teaching CRT or some *******ized version of American history are not the same thing.
If they teach those things, they clearly aren't smart enough to coach your child well.


Dude you are reaching so hard.

"Your garbage man's really bad when he tries to do your taxes, so they clearly aren't smart enough to pick up your garbage."
So how have you determined that they aren't good enough to teach your child but they are good enough to coach your child?
wargograw
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

BMX Bandit said:


It's not like being home school.


But it's no different then being homeschooled with regard to playing athletics at a different school.
Please explain how it's no different. Because I see the fundamental difference that the kid is enrolled in a public school and we can at least there is some sort of verification of "no pass, no play".


Clearly you haven't been following Tanya's arguments which are literally "if they're not in 'my' class they can't be on 'my' team." HSP kids are not in her class. Neither you nor her have addressed the blatant contradiction here.
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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Fore Left! said:

No pass no play again
Believe it or not, it is a thing. Sorry that it's inconvenient to your argument.
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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wargograw said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

BMX Bandit said:


It's not like being home school.


But it's no different then being homeschooled with regard to playing athletics at a different school.
Please explain how it's no different. Because I see the fundamental difference that the kid is enrolled in a public school and we can at least there is some sort of verification of "no pass, no play".


Clearly you haven't been following Tanya's arguments which are literally "if they're not in 'my' class they can't be on 'my' team." HSP kids are not in her class. Neither you nor her have addressed the blatant contradiction here.
Why are you arguing with me about what Tanya said? Talk to her.
wargograw
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

wargograw said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

wargograw said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Cassius said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

If public schools suck so bad, homeschooling extras should be better as well. Create your own teams and move on.


Are you bitter?


Not in the least. I'm for parents doing what they think is best but there are consequences to actions. If the same person isn't good enough to teach your child, why are they good enough to coach them?


Because they're completely different functions? One guy is "good enough" to make a pizza. The other is "good enough" to roll sushi. When sushi guy makes pizza I choose not to use him. This is an absurd argument on your part.


Not really. What evidence have you used that they aren't good enough to teach your child or what evidence have you used to determine they are good enough to coach your child? The answer is probably none at all except your preconceived bias.


How I adjudicate that question isn't any of your business. The point is one can be "good enough" to do one thing and "not good enough" to do the other.
So it's not my business to know what you are thinking while discussing a subject on a discussion board? Why are you here then?


You seem to really have a logic issue here and you're trying to deflect.

Let's just boil this down. Do you admit that someone can be qualified to do one thing but not another?
Artorias
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So after 8 pages, the only real argument from people opposing this is "I don't like it".

Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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wargograw said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

wargograw said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

wargograw said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Cassius said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

If public schools suck so bad, homeschooling extras should be better as well. Create your own teams and move on.


Are you bitter?


Not in the least. I'm for parents doing what they think is best but there are consequences to actions. If the same person isn't good enough to teach your child, why are they good enough to coach them?


Because they're completely different functions? One guy is "good enough" to make a pizza. The other is "good enough" to roll sushi. When sushi guy makes pizza I choose not to use him. This is an absurd argument on your part.


Not really. What evidence have you used that they aren't good enough to teach your child or what evidence have you used to determine they are good enough to coach your child? The answer is probably none at all except your preconceived bias.


How I adjudicate that question isn't any of your business. The point is one can be "good enough" to do one thing and "not good enough" to do the other.
So it's not my business to know what you are thinking while discussing a subject on a discussion board? Why are you here then?


You seem to really have a logic issue here and you're trying to deflect.

Let's just boil this down. Do you admit that someone can be qualified to do one thing but not another?
Answer my question first, please.
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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Artorias said:

So after 8 pages, the only real argument from people opposing this is "I don't like it".


Reading is hard.
wargograw
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

wargograw said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

BMX Bandit said:


It's not like being home school.


But it's no different then being homeschooled with regard to playing athletics at a different school.
Please explain how it's no different. Because I see the fundamental difference that the kid is enrolled in a public school and we can at least there is some sort of verification of "no pass, no play".


Clearly you haven't been following Tanya's arguments which are literally "if they're not in 'my' class they can't be on 'my' team." HSP kids are not in her class. Neither you nor her have addressed the blatant contradiction here.
Why are you arguing with me about what Tanya said? Talk to her.


You're the one that jumped in when someone was responding to HER arguments. If you didn't recognize your argument in the point, then you don't have to respond.
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wargograw said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

BMX Bandit said:


It's not like being home school.


But it's no different then being homeschooled with regard to playing athletics at a different school.
Please explain how it's no different. Because I see the fundamental difference that the kid is enrolled in a public school and we can at least there is some sort of verification of "no pass, no play".


Clearly you haven't been following Tanya's arguments which are literally "if they're not in 'my' class they can't be on 'my' team." HSP kids are not in her class. Neither you nor her have addressed the blatant contradiction here.
Teach in small town Texas and get back to me

Artorias
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Artorias said:

So after 8 pages, the only real argument from people opposing this is "I don't like it".


Reading is hard.
No, apparently making a convincing argument is hard for you.
wargograw
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

wargograw said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

wargograw said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

wargograw said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Cassius said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

If public schools suck so bad, homeschooling extras should be better as well. Create your own teams and move on.


Are you bitter?


Not in the least. I'm for parents doing what they think is best but there are consequences to actions. If the same person isn't good enough to teach your child, why are they good enough to coach them?


Because they're completely different functions? One guy is "good enough" to make a pizza. The other is "good enough" to roll sushi. When sushi guy makes pizza I choose not to use him. This is an absurd argument on your part.


Not really. What evidence have you used that they aren't good enough to teach your child or what evidence have you used to determine they are good enough to coach your child? The answer is probably none at all except your preconceived bias.


How I adjudicate that question isn't any of your business. The point is one can be "good enough" to do one thing and "not good enough" to do the other.
So it's not my business to know what you are thinking while discussing a subject on a discussion board? Why are you here then?


You seem to really have a logic issue here and you're trying to deflect.

Let's just boil this down. Do you admit that someone can be qualified to do one thing but not another?
Answer my question first, please.


If you can't answer mine then there's no point in me answering yours.

This is a simple yes or no while you're asking for what could be explained in a multi page paper.

Do you admit that someone can be qualified to do one thing but not another? Yes or no?
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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Artorias said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Artorias said:

So after 8 pages, the only real argument from people opposing this is "I don't like it".


Reading is hard.
No, apparently making a convincing argument is hard for you.

That might be true but my argument has clearly been more than "I don't like it.".
wargograw
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Tanya 93 said:

wargograw said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

BMX Bandit said:


It's not like being home school.


But it's no different then being homeschooled with regard to playing athletics at a different school.
Please explain how it's no different. Because I see the fundamental difference that the kid is enrolled in a public school and we can at least there is some sort of verification of "no pass, no play".


Clearly you haven't been following Tanya's arguments which are literally "if they're not in 'my' class they can't be on 'my' team." HSP kids are not in her class. Neither you nor her have addressed the blatant contradiction here.
Teach in small town Texas and get back to me




Should the HSP kids be allowed to play for their local [normal] public school or not?
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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wargograw said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

wargograw said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

wargograw said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

wargograw said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Cassius said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

If public schools suck so bad, homeschooling extras should be better as well. Create your own teams and move on.


Are you bitter?


Not in the least. I'm for parents doing what they think is best but there are consequences to actions. If the same person isn't good enough to teach your child, why are they good enough to coach them?


Because they're completely different functions? One guy is "good enough" to make a pizza. The other is "good enough" to roll sushi. When sushi guy makes pizza I choose not to use him. This is an absurd argument on your part.


Not really. What evidence have you used that they aren't good enough to teach your child or what evidence have you used to determine they are good enough to coach your child? The answer is probably none at all except your preconceived bias.


How I adjudicate that question isn't any of your business. The point is one can be "good enough" to do one thing and "not good enough" to do the other.
So it's not my business to know what you are thinking while discussing a subject on a discussion board? Why are you here then?


You seem to really have a logic issue here and you're trying to deflect.

Let's just boil this down. Do you admit that someone can be qualified to do one thing but not another?
Answer my question first, please.


If you can't answer mine then there's no point in me answering yours.

This is a simple yes or no while you're asking for what could be explained in a multi page paper.

Do you admit that someone can be qualified to do one thing but not another? Yes or no?
Let's just see if that's true. How did you determine that the teacher is incapable of teaching your kid but can clearly coach your child? What metric did you use?
Tanya 93
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wargograw said:

Tanya 93 said:

wargograw said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

BMX Bandit said:


It's not like being home school.


But it's no different then being homeschooled with regard to playing athletics at a different school.
Please explain how it's no different. Because I see the fundamental difference that the kid is enrolled in a public school and we can at least there is some sort of verification of "no pass, no play".


Clearly you haven't been following Tanya's arguments which are literally "if they're not in 'my' class they can't be on 'my' team." HSP kids are not in her class. Neither you nor her have addressed the blatant contradiction here.
Teach in small town Texas and get back to me




Should the HSP kids be allowed to play for their local [normal] public school or not?
I guess you don't read.

I have said repeatedly no

If they cannot be in the classroom, they should not be in the activities.


There is no gotcha here that I am sure you are looking for
 
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