Fore Left! said:

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Muy said:

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Fore Left! said:

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So we should not let any of these kids do anything. How incredibly selfish of you

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She just said they lacked social skills.... exactly why extra curricular activities with their friends at the school their parents fund is necessary.

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For someone flipped out more than anyone about her kid not being able to socialize, her input on this is quite sad.

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If he was in a private school, it would have been very different

And why do homeschoolers constantly say there is no social aspect they are missing?

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Tanya 93 said:

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Muy said:

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Fore Left! said:

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So we should not let any of these kids do anything. How incredibly selfish of you

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She just said they lacked social skills.... exactly why extra curricular activities with their friends at the school their parents fund is necessary.

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I did?


Quote please

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" they didn't know how to be told no or lose."

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LOL at having to spell it out for her

Muy said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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Fore Left! said:

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So we should not let any of these kids do anything. How incredibly selfish of you

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She just said they lacked social skills.... exactly why extra curricular activities with their friends at the school their parents fund is necessary.

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I did?


Quote please

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" they didn't know how to be told no or lose."

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That is not lacking in social skills

Fore Left! said:

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Muy said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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Muy said:

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So we should not let any of these kids do anything. How incredibly selfish of you

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She just said they lacked social skills.... exactly why extra curricular activities with their friends at the school their parents fund is necessary.

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I did?


Quote please

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" they didn't know how to be told no or lose."

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LOL at having to spell it out for her

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She just proved my point about public school educators.

If the kids lack social skills, that's on the parents. There are lots of clubs and organizations outside of school sponsored activities that kids can participate in and socialize with their peers.

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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If public schools suck so bad, homeschooling extras should be better as well. Create your own teams and move on.

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Are you bitter?

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Not in the least. I'm for parents doing what they think is best but there are consequences to actions. If the same person isn't good enough to teach your child, why are they good enough to coach them?

Tanya 93 said:

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Muy said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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Fore Left! said:

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So we should not let any of these kids do anything. How incredibly selfish of you

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She just said they lacked social skills.... exactly why extra curricular activities with their friends at the school their parents fund is necessary.

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I did?


Quote please

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" they didn't know how to be told no or lose."

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That is not lacking in social skills

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You should pick another career.

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So it's pick and choose public education. The classroom isn't good enough, nor are the kids within the school, but they're good enough to play football with.

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Uh ya. I go to restaurants all the time that have absolutely crappy food, but for one dish. No difference.

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If the kids lack social skills, that's on the parents. There are lots of clubs and organizations outside of school sponsored activities that kids can participate in and socialize with their peers.

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Nope, extra curricular school activities are far more affordable because their parents helped fund them already.

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Tanya 93 said:

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Muy said:

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Fore Left! said:

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So we should not let any of these kids do anything. How incredibly selfish of you

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She just said they lacked social skills.... exactly why extra curricular activities with their friends at the school their parents fund is necessary.

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I did?


Quote please

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" they didn't know how to be told no or lose."

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That is not lacking in social skills

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You should pick another career.

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maybe you should too

Go to public education, since I am not in it

Notice Tanya's opinion on this is purely on how things may be a little more difficult for herself vs the angle of the community (who is actually paying) ending up with more well rounded kids, which last I checked, was the entire point of public education.

But some drama teacher may have to stay after school a bit to collect her extra stipend, so let's not do it

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Tanya 93 said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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Muy said:

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Fore Left! said:

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So we should not let any of these kids do anything. How incredibly selfish of you

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She just said they lacked social skills.... exactly why extra curricular activities with their friends at the school their parents fund is necessary.

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I did?


Quote please

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" they didn't know how to be told no or lose."

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That is not lacking in social skills

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You should pick another career.

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maybe you should too

Go to public education, since I am not in it

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You aren't? Then how were you able to tutor kids at the school?

I'll hang up and listen.

Not really.

Coaches need their kids in the school

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Not really.

Coaches need their kids in the school

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LOL. This is ridiculous. It works fine in many other states. You should put down the shovel and walk way on this one

Eh I don't really care if homeschool kids want to play sports or extracurriculars at public school. I'm curious how state funding would be affected though. If I have a student in my second period class to participate in a sport (the period of record for state funding), will my school receive funding for that student?

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So we should not let any of these kids do anything. How incredibly selfish of you

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She just said they lacked social skills.... exactly why extra curricular activities with their friends at the school their parents fund is necessary.

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I did?


Quote please

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" they didn't know how to be told no or lose."

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That is not lacking in social skills

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Might want to check with ART and Skills Streaming the Adolescent. Learning to accept no is one of the 50 essential social skills in evidence based programs.

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So we should not let any of these kids do anything. How incredibly selfish of you

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She just said they lacked social skills.... exactly why extra curricular activities with their friends at the school their parents fund is necessary.

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I did?


Quote please

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" they didn't know how to be told no or lose."

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That is not lacking in social skills

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You should pick another career.

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maybe you should too

Go to public education, since I am not in it

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You aren't? Then how were you able to tutor kids at the school?

I'll hang up and listen.

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I get paid to tutor homeschool kids, public school kids, and foreign students?

You must really not read.

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If the kids lack social skills, that's on the parents. There are lots of clubs and organizations outside of school sponsored activities that kids can participate in and socialize with their peers.

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Nope, extra curricular school activities are far more affordable because their parents helped fund them already.

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Things like 4H, church organizations, and volunteer groups are expensive? That's news to me.

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So we should not let any of these kids do anything. How incredibly selfish of you

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She just said they lacked social skills.... exactly why extra curricular activities with their friends at the school their parents fund is necessary.

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I did?


Quote please

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" they didn't know how to be told no or lose."

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That is not lacking in social skills

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You should pick another career.

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maybe you should too

Go to public education, since I am not in it

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You aren't? Then how were you able to tutor kids at the school?

I'll hang up and listen.

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I get paid to tutor homeschool kids, public school kids, and foreign students?

You must really not read.

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Pretty sure you can't. I asked why you got to use the public school when you aren't an enrolled student or teacher there?

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Muy said:

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If the kids lack social skills, that's on the parents. There are lots of clubs and organizations outside of school sponsored activities that kids can participate in and socialize with their peers.

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Nope, extra curricular school activities are far more affordable because their parents helped fund them already.

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Things like 4H, church organizations, and volunteer groups are expensive? That's news to me.

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Great argument.

I also guarantee that Coach Billy would be ecstatic to have home-school Leeroy if Leeroy is a 6'4" 5-Star LB prospect who runs a 4.3 40.

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Not really.

Coaches need their kids in the school

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LOL. This is ridiculous. It works fine in many other states. You should put down the shovel and walk way on this one

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no

I am good with you not agreeing

But as a UIL coach, I needed my kids in the school. We practiced during the day

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If the kids lack social skills, that's on the parents. There are lots of clubs and organizations outside of school sponsored activities that kids can participate in and socialize with their peers.

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Nope, extra curricular school activities are far more affordable because their parents helped fund them already.

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Things like 4H, church organizations, and volunteer groups are expensive? That's news to me.

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Sounds line you've never bought/taken care of show animals.

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Muy said:

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So we should not let any of these kids do anything. How incredibly selfish of you

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She just said they lacked social skills.... exactly why extra curricular activities with their friends at the school their parents fund is necessary.

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I did?


Quote please

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" they didn't know how to be told no or lose."

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That is not lacking in social skills

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You should pick another career.

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maybe you should too

Go to public education, since I am not in it

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You aren't? Then how were you able to tutor kids at the school?

I'll hang up and listen.

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I get paid to tutor homeschool kids, public school kids, and foreign students?

You must really not read.

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Pretty sure you can't. I asked why you got to use the public school when you aren't an enrolled student or teacher there?

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i get hired to tutor

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Not really.

Coaches need their kids in the school

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LOL. This is ridiculous. It works fine in many other states. You should put down the shovel and walk way on this one

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no

I am good with you not agreeing

But as a UIL coach, I needed my kids in the school. We practiced during the day

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Yeah that 30-minute practice time during school is really where the best skills are developed.

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Not really.

Coaches need their kids in the school

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LOL. This is ridiculous. It works fine in many other states. You should put down the shovel and walk way on this one

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no

I am good with you not agreeing

But as a UIL coach, I needed my kids in the school. We practiced during the day

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Who says the homeschooled kids can't make practice when and where it is held?

And LOL at collecting a coaching stipend while simply repurposing classroom time. Smooth

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Not really.

Coaches need their kids in the school

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LOL. This is ridiculous. It works fine in many other states. You should put down the shovel and walk way on this one

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no

I am good with you not agreeing

But as a UIL coach, I needed my kids in the school. We practiced during the day

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Yeah that 30-minute practice time during school is really where the best skills are developed.

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That hour to 90 minutes was really good for OAP

Also, as a coach at another school, I believe there should be some oversight to the system to make sure the homeschool kids are actually passing their classes. Otherwise and kid can just "go to school" for athletics and no other reason.

So according to Tanya, homeschooled kids could make a 2 hour football practice that starts at 2:30 because it's "after school" but not a 60 minute one act play or whatever the F practice at 1 because it's "not after school"

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If the kids lack social skills, that's on the parents. There are lots of clubs and organizations outside of school sponsored activities that kids can participate in and socialize with their peers.

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Nope, extra curricular school activities are far more affordable because their parents helped fund them already.

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Things like 4H, church organizations, and volunteer groups are expensive? That's news to me.

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Sounds line you've never bought/taken care of show animals.

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Did since I was 9 years old and all through high school. I don't remember my school paying for the animal or any of the costs when I was in 4H or FFA. And there's plenty of kids in high school that raise animals through a home school 4H club. I could have shown under 4H or FFA when I was in high school because I was in both.

Rarely do I agree with Tanya, but I do believe she is correct in this. I have no problem with parents who choose to homeschool. As a teacher of 31 years and a former coach, I have seen many homeschooled kids come to school and be behind, both academically and especially socially, while I have seen others who are exceptional. However, If a kid wants to play high school sports, and be on the "TEAM" then come be a part of the school. Walk the halls, eat lunch and attend class with your teammates. There is nothing like wearing that jersey down the hall on a Friday and representing your "school!" Sit in a class taught by one of your assistant coaches and bond with them on a different level. When you put on that jersey with the school name on the front....you represent that "school!" You stand and sing the school song with pride that you are part of something bigger than yourself...and know what it means to represent your school on the playing field! So, the homeschool kid comes in for athletics only, and wears the jersey of a school he doesn't care to attend? Is that your school song? It reeks of the modern attitude that everyone should get a trophy and no one should be told no! If you want to play for a school, then come be a part of the school and join your teammates in all ways!! If your not willing to do that, then stay home!! Just my 2 cents....

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Curious the boards thoughts on homeschoolers participation in UIL. The senate just passed HB547 16-14 so it looks like this will happen after other failed attempts.

We homeschool our son and I personally don't have a major leaning either way, however my wife is pretty fired up. She didn't want this to pass as it may potentially blaze the path to invite more government into our homeschool choices.

https://legiscan.com/TX/text/HB547/id/2215800

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Don't like it. The kids aren't going to the HS but can show up to play? The biggest issue is no pass/no play. Who is going to make that decision? The teacher is the parent and they will pass their kid regardless of performance or rigor. How much testing is required to be considered passing in a subject? Kids that go to HS have an independent party (the teacher) deciding if the student is allowed to play.

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. How good is the "system" that continues pushing failing kids through?

I have no problem with a total separation between public school and everybody else. My kids do private and we prefer to compete in TAPPS (for sports), ACSI (for academic competition) and other private leagues anyway. Many Houston area home school groups form sports teams and our kids play them. They are not pushovers either. Our 6th grade basketball team got their butts whipped three times this season by a homeschool group with an 8th grader bigger than me. They helped fill out our schedule and forced us to improve. We sure got a lot better on defense from that experience.

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I have no problem with a total separation between public school and everybody else. My kids do private and we prefer to compete in TAPPS (for sports), ACSI (for academic competition) and other private leagues anyway. Many Houston area home school groups form sports teams and our kids play them. They are not pushovers either. Our 6th grade basketball team got their butts whipped three times this season by a homeschool group with an 8th grader bigger than me. They helped fill out our schedule and forced us to improve. We sure got a lot better on defense from that experience.

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Our kids played school basketball in TAPPS 5A so we personally had no desire to do UIL sports but through high school they played a lot of them in non-district tourneys. Homeschooling is different, while basketball is easy to pull together, there are lots of activities they can't either pull a team/group together or find enough teams to even form a league to compete in.

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Also, as a coach at another school, I believe there should be some oversight to the system to make sure the homeschool kids are actually passing their classes. Otherwise and kid can just "go to school" for athletics and no other reason.

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I'm pretty sure that Homeschool kids have some type of standardized testing (at least in high school) to prove academic success in order to go to college. I'm talking out of my ass on this one but there has to be something that is already approved.