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Little girl banned from wearing "Jesus loves me" mask at school.
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The front desk receptionist at Sam Rayburn MS in Bryan wears a mask every day that says "I CAN'T BREATHE."
Marlin39m said:
The front desk receptionist at Sam Rayburn MS in Bryan wears a mask every day that says "I CAN'T BREATHE."
Tell her removing the mask amd staying away from fentanyl will help her breathe. Let us know how it turns out.
"Convert or die" or "Jesus loves me"e=mc2 said:
I wonder what would have happened if the make said, "Allah loves me?"
Which is the more offensive? Tough call...
raging_agaholic said:rocky the dog said:
But these would be okay...
3,1,2
I have a great deal of respect for you to take the plunge on three sight unseen. Not sure I'd have the strength.
A person can wear a religious symbol or attire but not religious sayings in public schools. ANY religion. This has been the case for years. Public education is paid for by the public of all faiths. Go to a religious school that is private and one can do this. I'm a Christian and wouldn't want a person of a different faith trying to convert my child to another religion in a public school.
liberalag12 said:
A person can wear a religious symbol or attire but not religious sayings in public schools. ANY religion. This has been the case for years. Public education is paid for by the public of all faiths. Go to a religious school that is private and one can do this. I'm a Christian and wouldn't want a person of a different faith trying to convert my child to another religion in a public school.
It was a student. It wasn't a teacher. Good grief drama much?
Now do muslims.
liberalag12 said:
A person can wear a religious symbol or attire but not religious sayings in public schools. ANY religion. This has been the case for years. Public education is paid for by the public of all faiths. Go to a religious school that is private and one can do this. I'm a Christian and wouldn't want a person of a different faith trying to convert my child to another religion in a public school.
How does a mask or t-shirt constitute "trying to convert" a child?
And I'm asking a a teacher who wears my FCA mask regularly...
liberalag12 said:
A person can wear a religious symbol or attire but not religious sayings in public schools. ANY religion. This has been the case for years. Public education is paid for by the public of all faiths. Go to a religious school that is private and one can do this. I'm a Christian and wouldn't want a person of a different faith trying to convert my child to another religion in a public school.
Wrong.
backintexas2013 said:liberalag12 said:
A person can wear a religious symbol or attire but not religious sayings in public schools. ANY religion. This has been the case for years. Public education is paid for by the public of all faiths. Go to a religious school that is private and one can do this. I'm a Christian and wouldn't want a person of a different faith trying to convert my child to another religion in a public school.
It was a student. It wasn't a teacher. Good grief drama much?
Drama much? It doesn't matter if it was a teacher or student. It applies to both. Read much?
It does and should matter. Sorry your child might get exposed to other religions. Oh the humanity.
Link to that law/ruling/regulation?Quote:
A person can wear a religious symbol or attire but not religious sayings in public schools.
liberalag12 said:backintexas2013 said:liberalag12 said:
A person can wear a religious symbol or attire but not religious sayings in public schools. ANY religion. This has been the case for years. Public education is paid for by the public of all faiths. Go to a religious school that is private and one can do this. I'm a Christian and wouldn't want a person of a different faith trying to convert my child to another religion in a public school.
It was a student. It wasn't a teacher. Good grief drama much?
Drama much? It doesn't matter if it was a teacher or student. It applies to both. Read much?
Dead wrong as usual.
zoneag said:liberalag12 said:backintexas2013 said:liberalag12 said:
A person can wear a religious symbol or attire but not religious sayings in public schools. ANY religion. This has been the case for years. Public education is paid for by the public of all faiths. Go to a religious school that is private and one can do this. I'm a Christian and wouldn't want a person of a different faith trying to convert my child to another religion in a public school.
It was a student. It wasn't a teacher. Good grief drama much?
Drama much? It doesn't matter if it was a teacher or student. It applies to both. Read much?
Dead wrong as usual.
"Since the 1960s, the federal courts have made it crystal clear that officially sponsored prayer and proselytizing is not acceptable in the school environment"
Is this statement true or false in a PUBLIC SCHOOL?
Would you want your child to be proselytized by a person of another faith in school?
liberalag12 said:backintexas2013 said:liberalag12 said:
A person can wear a religious symbol or attire but not religious sayings in public schools. ANY religion. This has been the case for years. Public education is paid for by the public of all faiths. Go to a religious school that is private and one can do this. I'm a Christian and wouldn't want a person of a different faith trying to convert my child to another religion in a public school.
It was a student. It wasn't a teacher. Good grief drama much?
Drama much? It doesn't matter if it was a teacher or student. It applies to both. Read much?
Way off. A school CAN NOT restrict speech in school that does not disrupt the learning environment. This comes from Tinker v. Des Moines. Very simple concept. The exception to this would be a uniform policy. I don't mean a policy applied uniformly, I mean actual uniforms. But even then students are be allowed to proselytize, participate in student-led prayer (See You At The Pole), express political opinions, or any number of other things.
"Well, if you can’t have a great season, at least ruin somebody else’s." - Olin Buchanan
How neat you read an aclu website. Nice. You hit search and it came up and you ran with it.
Students can. School can't sponsor it.
Students can. School can't sponsor it.
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A person can wear a religious symbol or attire but not religious sayings in public schools. ANY religion. This has been the case for years.
One more time.
Are you going to attempt to back up this glaring falsehood?
This is simply 180 degrees away from the truth.
https://www.adl.org/education/resources/tools-and-strategies/religion-in-public-schools/dress-codes
https://www.freedomforuminstitute.org/first-amendment-center/topics/freedom-of-speech-2/k-12-public-school-student-expression/clothing-dress-codes-uniforms/Quote:
The First Amendment allows for mandatory uniform policies or dress codes in the public schools. However, it also generally permits exemptions from such policies or codes for students to wear religious clothes, head coverings, symbols or other attire...
a limitation on clothing choices through uniform policies or dress codes must comply with the First Amendment's free speech clause...
Such policies as written and in application are not intended to suppress student expression or viewpoints.
Quote:
Ironically, both opponents and proponents of student dress codes point to the same U.S. Supreme Court ruling to support their positions Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District (1969). In this famous decision, the Court ruled 7-2 that public school officials could not censor student expression the wearing of black armbands, in that case unless they could reasonably forecast that the student expression would cause substantial disruption or material interference with school activities or would invade the rights of others.
Dress-code opponents emphasize that students convey a multitude of messages on their clothing, ranging from political slogans, music lyrics, and support for a favorite athletic team. They argue that school officials cannot censor student expression unless they can show that the clothing will disrupt the school environment. They contend that Tinker stands for the fundamental principle that students have the right to wear clothing with messages, just as the students in the 1960s could wear black armbands to protest the Vietnam War.
https://riaclu.org/en/know-your-rights/know-your-rights-students-school-dress-codes
http://www.religioustolerance.org/sch_clot3.htmQuote:
CAN I WEAR CLOTHING THAT COMMUNICATES A POLITICAL OR RELIGIOUS MESSAGE?
Yes. In the 1969 case of Tinker v. Des Moines, one of the most well-known student rights' cases considered by the U.S. Supreme Court, the Court ruled that students had a constitutional right to wear a black armband to school to protest U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. Since then, courts have continued to hold that students generally have a right to express political views through their clothing. This can include, for example, wearing clothing that endorses or criticizes a politician or, as in more recent cases, wearing t-shirts concerning gay rights. Additionally, schools cannot prohibit students from wearing clothes that are in observance of their religion, such as a Muslim wearing a hijab in school.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/womens-rights/womens-rights-education/5-things-public-schools-can-and-cant-do-when-it-comesQuote:
In reality, public schools must:
Be neutral with respect to religion:
They cannot promote one religion over another.
They cannot promote religion in general over a secular lifestyle.
They cannot promote a secular lifestyle over religion.
Allow students to pray, carry religious texts, discuss religious topics, and pass out religious materials on the school bus, at the flagpole, in the corridors outside of class time, in the cafeteria, etc., as long as their behavior is not disruptive.
Allow students to wear religious jewelry and clothing with religious symbols and statements -- subject of course to safety considerations. Students do not leave their First Amendment rights at the front door of the school building.
https://answersingenesis.org/public-school/rights-in-public-schools/Quote:
Schools can't discriminate based on the viewpoint expressed by your clothing. The Supreme Court has recognized that public school students do not "shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate." The First Amendment prohibits schools from picking and choosing which views students are allowed to express. All views have to be treated equally, so long as they are not obscene or disruptive. This means that if a school permits items like t-shirts with slogans, buttons, or wristbands, it has to permit them no matter what message they express.
Quote:
2. May a student wear a tee-shirt or button with a religious slogan, Bible verse, or anti-abortion message printed on it?
Christian students may display religious messages on clothing to the same extent as other students are permitted to display comparable messages.
Shirts with printed messages are forms of symbolic speech protected by the First Amendment. Courts have only allowed suppression of symbolic speech in public schools if it were lewd or obscene, Broussard v. Sch. Brd. of City of Norfolk (E.D. Va. 1992), or if the clothing had slogans advertising alcoholic beverages, McIntire v. Berel Sch., 804 F. Supp. 1415 (W.D. Okia. 1992).
Well that's a wrap.
Faculty and staff cannot lead prayersliberalag12 said:zoneag said:liberalag12 said:backintexas2013 said:liberalag12 said:
A person can wear a religious symbol or attire but not religious sayings in public schools. ANY religion. This has been the case for years. Public education is paid for by the public of all faiths. Go to a religious school that is private and one can do this. I'm a Christian and wouldn't want a person of a different faith trying to convert my child to another religion in a public school.
It was a student. It wasn't a teacher. Good grief drama much?
Drama much? It doesn't matter if it was a teacher or student. It applies to both. Read much?
Dead wrong as usual.
"Since the 1960s, the federal courts have made it crystal clear that officially sponsored prayer and proselytizing is not acceptable in the school environment"
Is this statement true or false in a PUBLIC SCHOOL?
Would you want your child to be proselytized by a person of another faith in school?
students can do it at lunch or at the flagpole or in the hallways or before taking the stage at OAP competitions
I took an entire class to visit a convent one year because we were doing a production on Edith Stein
I taught selections from the Bible and from preachers in classes
A girl wearing a mask that says Jesus loves me is not a bad or proselytizing thing
Wearing a religious slogan is not considered proselytizing, if done by a student.liberalag12 said:zoneag said:liberalag12 said:backintexas2013 said:liberalag12 said:
A person can wear a religious symbol or attire but not religious sayings in public schools. ANY religion. This has been the case for years. Public education is paid for by the public of all faiths. Go to a religious school that is private and one can do this. I'm a Christian and wouldn't want a person of a different faith trying to convert my child to another religion in a public school.
It was a student. It wasn't a teacher. Good grief drama much?
Drama much? It doesn't matter if it was a teacher or student. It applies to both. Read much?
Dead wrong as usual.
"Since the 1960s, the federal courts have made it crystal clear that officially sponsored prayer and proselytizing is not acceptable in the school environment"
Is this statement true or false in a PUBLIC SCHOOL?
Would you want your child to be proselytized by a person of another faith in school?
backintexas2013 said:Marlin39m said:
The front desk receptionist at Sam Rayburn MS in Bryan wears a mask every day that says "I CAN'T BREATHE."
Tell her removing the mask amd staying away from fentanyl will help her breathe. Let us know how it turns out.
liberalag12 said:zoneag said:liberalag12 said:backintexas2013 said:liberalag12 said:
A person can wear a religious symbol or attire but not religious sayings in public schools. ANY religion. This has been the case for years. Public education is paid for by the public of all faiths. Go to a religious school that is private and one can do this. I'm a Christian and wouldn't want a person of a different faith trying to convert my child to another religion in a public school.
It was a student. It wasn't a teacher. Good grief drama much?
Drama much? It doesn't matter if it was a teacher or student. It applies to both. Read much?
Dead wrong as usual.
"Since the 1960s, the federal courts have made it crystal clear that officially sponsored prayer and proselytizing is not acceptable in the school environment"
Is this statement true or false in a PUBLIC SCHOOL?
Would you want your child to be proselytized by a person of another faith in school?
The highlighted bit that you ignore is key. Public school officials cannot lead religious activities, because the government cannot limit religious freedom. Students, who are not employees of the government, still have their their freedom of religion protected. A government official punishing students for expressing their religious beliefs is a clear violation of the First Amendment. Hence student lead prayer and Bible studies are allowed.
liberalag12 said:zoneag said:liberalag12 said:backintexas2013 said:liberalag12 said:
A person can wear a religious symbol or attire but not religious sayings in public schools. ANY religion. This has been the case for years. Public education is paid for by the public of all faiths. Go to a religious school that is private and one can do this. I'm a Christian and wouldn't want a person of a different faith trying to convert my child to another religion in a public school.
It was a student. It wasn't a teacher. Good grief drama much?
Drama much? It doesn't matter if it was a teacher or student. It applies to both. Read much?
Dead wrong as usual.
"Since the 1960s, the federal courts have made it crystal clear that officially sponsored prayer and proselytizing is not acceptable in the school environment"
Is this statement true or false in a PUBLIC SCHOOL?
Would you want your child to be proselytized by a person of another faith in school?
Epic fail. Read it again and think about the words.
Should we take bets on his new username?
CanyonAg77 said:Quote:
A person can wear a religious symbol or attire but not religious sayings in public schools. ANY religion. This has been the case for years.
One more time.
Are you going to attempt to back up this glaring falsehood?
This is simply 180 degrees away from the truth.
https://www.adl.org/education/resources/tools-and-strategies/religion-in-public-schools/dress-codeshttps://www.freedomforuminstitute.org/first-amendment-center/topics/freedom-of-speech-2/k-12-public-school-student-expression/clothing-dress-codes-uniforms/Quote:
The First Amendment allows for mandatory uniform policies or dress codes in the public schools. However, it also generally permits exemptions from such policies or codes for students to wear religious clothes, head coverings, symbols or other attire...
a limitation on clothing choices through uniform policies or dress codes must comply with the First Amendment's free speech clause...
Such policies as written and in application are not intended to suppress student expression or viewpoints.Quote:
Ironically, both opponents and proponents of student dress codes point to the same U.S. Supreme Court ruling to support their positions Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District (1969). In this famous decision, the Court ruled 7-2 that public school officials could not censor student expression the wearing of black armbands, in that case unless they could reasonably forecast that the student expression would cause substantial disruption or material interference with school activities or would invade the rights of others.
Dress-code opponents emphasize that students convey a multitude of messages on their clothing, ranging from political slogans, music lyrics, and support for a favorite athletic team. They argue that school officials cannot censor student expression unless they can show that the clothing will disrupt the school environment. They contend that Tinker stands for the fundamental principle that students have the right to wear clothing with messages, just as the students in the 1960s could wear black armbands to protest the Vietnam War.
https://riaclu.org/en/know-your-rights/know-your-rights-students-school-dress-codeshttp://www.religioustolerance.org/sch_clot3.htmQuote:
CAN I WEAR CLOTHING THAT COMMUNICATES A POLITICAL OR RELIGIOUS MESSAGE?
Yes. In the 1969 case of Tinker v. Des Moines, one of the most well-known student rights' cases considered by the U.S. Supreme Court, the Court ruled that students had a constitutional right to wear a black armband to school to protest U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. Since then, courts have continued to hold that students generally have a right to express political views through their clothing. This can include, for example, wearing clothing that endorses or criticizes a politician or, as in more recent cases, wearing t-shirts concerning gay rights. Additionally, schools cannot prohibit students from wearing clothes that are in observance of their religion, such as a Muslim wearing a hijab in school.https://www.aclu.org/blog/womens-rights/womens-rights-education/5-things-public-schools-can-and-cant-do-when-it-comesQuote:
In reality, public schools must:
Be neutral with respect to religion:
They cannot promote one religion over another.
They cannot promote religion in general over a secular lifestyle.
They cannot promote a secular lifestyle over religion.
Allow students to pray, carry religious texts, discuss religious topics, and pass out religious materials on the school bus, at the flagpole, in the corridors outside of class time, in the cafeteria, etc., as long as their behavior is not disruptive.
Allow students to wear religious jewelry and clothing with religious symbols and statements -- subject of course to safety considerations. Students do not leave their First Amendment rights at the front door of the school building.https://answersingenesis.org/public-school/rights-in-public-schools/Quote:
Schools can't discriminate based on the viewpoint expressed by your clothing. The Supreme Court has recognized that public school students do not "shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate." The First Amendment prohibits schools from picking and choosing which views students are allowed to express. All views have to be treated equally, so long as they are not obscene or disruptive. This means that if a school permits items like t-shirts with slogans, buttons, or wristbands, it has to permit them no matter what message they express.Quote:
2. May a student wear a tee-shirt or button with a religious slogan, Bible verse, or anti-abortion message printed on it?
Christian students may display religious messages on clothing to the same extent as other students are permitted to display comparable messages.
Shirts with printed messages are forms of symbolic speech protected by the First Amendment. Courts have only allowed suppression of symbolic speech in public schools if it were lewd or obscene, Broussard v. Sch. Brd. of City of Norfolk (E.D. Va. 1992), or if the clothing had slogans advertising alcoholic beverages, McIntire v. Berel Sch., 804 F. Supp. 1415 (W.D. Okia. 1992).
Ouch. That will leave a mark liberalag
Why were private faith schools created then?
liberalag12 said:
Why were private faith schools created then?
Dumb question and terrible deflection. Try harder.
Sorry. Taking information from a website that is biased with "know your rights" might not be credible.
liberalag12 said:
Why were private faith schools created then?
Church sponsored schools existed long before public education.
liberalag12 said:
Why were private faith schools created then?
"Hello, 911, I'd like report a murder."CanyonAg77 said:Quote:
A person can wear a religious symbol or attire but not religious sayings in public schools. ANY religion. This has been the case for years.
One more time.
Are you going to attempt to back up this glaring falsehood?
This is simply 180 degrees away from the truth.
https://www.adl.org/education/resources/tools-and-strategies/religion-in-public-schools/dress-codeshttps://www.freedomforuminstitute.org/first-amendment-center/topics/freedom-of-speech-2/k-12-public-school-student-expression/clothing-dress-codes-uniforms/Quote:
The First Amendment allows for mandatory uniform policies or dress codes in the public schools. However, it also generally permits exemptions from such policies or codes for students to wear religious clothes, head coverings, symbols or other attire...
a limitation on clothing choices through uniform policies or dress codes must comply with the First Amendment's free speech clause...
Such policies as written and in application are not intended to suppress student expression or viewpoints.Quote:
Ironically, both opponents and proponents of student dress codes point to the same U.S. Supreme Court ruling to support their positions Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District (1969). In this famous decision, the Court ruled 7-2 that public school officials could not censor student expression the wearing of black armbands, in that case unless they could reasonably forecast that the student expression would cause substantial disruption or material interference with school activities or would invade the rights of others.
Dress-code opponents emphasize that students convey a multitude of messages on their clothing, ranging from political slogans, music lyrics, and support for a favorite athletic team. They argue that school officials cannot censor student expression unless they can show that the clothing will disrupt the school environment. They contend that Tinker stands for the fundamental principle that students have the right to wear clothing with messages, just as the students in the 1960s could wear black armbands to protest the Vietnam War.
https://riaclu.org/en/know-your-rights/know-your-rights-students-school-dress-codeshttp://www.religioustolerance.org/sch_clot3.htmQuote:
CAN I WEAR CLOTHING THAT COMMUNICATES A POLITICAL OR RELIGIOUS MESSAGE?
Yes. In the 1969 case of Tinker v. Des Moines, one of the most well-known student rights' cases considered by the U.S. Supreme Court, the Court ruled that students had a constitutional right to wear a black armband to school to protest U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. Since then, courts have continued to hold that students generally have a right to express political views through their clothing. This can include, for example, wearing clothing that endorses or criticizes a politician or, as in more recent cases, wearing t-shirts concerning gay rights. Additionally, schools cannot prohibit students from wearing clothes that are in observance of their religion, such as a Muslim wearing a hijab in school.https://www.aclu.org/blog/womens-rights/womens-rights-education/5-things-public-schools-can-and-cant-do-when-it-comesQuote:
In reality, public schools must:
Be neutral with respect to religion:
They cannot promote one religion over another.
They cannot promote religion in general over a secular lifestyle.
They cannot promote a secular lifestyle over religion.
Allow students to pray, carry religious texts, discuss religious topics, and pass out religious materials on the school bus, at the flagpole, in the corridors outside of class time, in the cafeteria, etc., as long as their behavior is not disruptive.
Allow students to wear religious jewelry and clothing with religious symbols and statements -- subject of course to safety considerations. Students do not leave their First Amendment rights at the front door of the school building.https://answersingenesis.org/public-school/rights-in-public-schools/Quote:
Schools can't discriminate based on the viewpoint expressed by your clothing. The Supreme Court has recognized that public school students do not "shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate." The First Amendment prohibits schools from picking and choosing which views students are allowed to express. All views have to be treated equally, so long as they are not obscene or disruptive. This means that if a school permits items like t-shirts with slogans, buttons, or wristbands, it has to permit them no matter what message they express.Quote:
2. May a student wear a tee-shirt or button with a religious slogan, Bible verse, or anti-abortion message printed on it?
Christian students may display religious messages on clothing to the same extent as other students are permitted to display comparable messages.
Shirts with printed messages are forms of symbolic speech protected by the First Amendment. Courts have only allowed suppression of symbolic speech in public schools if it were lewd or obscene, Broussard v. Sch. Brd. of City of Norfolk (E.D. Va. 1992), or if the clothing had slogans advertising alcoholic beverages, McIntire v. Berel Sch., 804 F. Supp. 1415 (W.D. Okia. 1992).
"We're going to need a clean up on aisle 16, STAT!"
Two of the links were ACLU, one from the Anti Defamation Leauge.liberalag12 said:
Sorry. Taking information from a website that is biased with "know your rights" might not be credible.
I don't care where you got it from. What's funny is you made a statement, got called out on it, went to google and went with the first thing you found. You didn't even understand what It said. You just thought it would back up your bs post. Instead it dug your hole deeper.
CanyonAg77 said:Two of the links were ACLU, one from the Anti Defamation Leauge.liberalag12 said:
Sorry. Taking information from a website that is biased with "know your rights" might not be credible.
Thus
Quote:
Sorry. Taking information from a website that is biased with "know your rights" might not be credible.
might be an accurate statement.