Little girl banned from wearing "Jesus loves me" mask at school.

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CanyonAg77
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Marlin39m said:

The front desk receptionist at Sam Rayburn MS in Bryan wears a mask every day that says "I CAN'T BREATHE."
Faculty and staff are banned from promoting a religious or political viewpoint.

That mask must be dirtier than a truck stop bathroom by now.
houag80
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I think we may have witnessed a head injury.
Captain Pablo
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Good lord I walked into a gruesome scene
ProgN
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Someone better call in a wellness check for zher tomorrow, just to be sure.

houag80
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Typically, zher, when called on said idiocy deflects to claim victim status from those old meanies who delicately corrected zher's errors in observations.
Tanya 93
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I have never seen that movie

ProgN
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Tanya 93 said:

I have never seen that movie


It's a really funny movie, you should watch it.
Tanya 93
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Prognightmare said:

Tanya 93 said:

I have never seen that movie


It's a really funny movie, you should watch it.
12 year old going on 25 appropriate?
ProgN
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Young Alex P. Keaton can handle it.
NICU Dad
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CanyonAg77 said:

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A person can wear a religious symbol or attire but not religious sayings in public schools. ANY religion. This has been the case for years.

One more time.

Are you going to attempt to back up this glaring falsehood?

This is simply 180 degrees away from the truth.

https://www.adl.org/education/resources/tools-and-strategies/religion-in-public-schools/dress-codes
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The First Amendment allows for mandatory uniform policies or dress codes in the public schools. However, it also generally permits exemptions from such policies or codes for students to wear religious clothes, head coverings, symbols or other attire...

a limitation on clothing choices through uniform policies or dress codes must comply with the First Amendment's free speech clause...

Such policies as written and in application are not intended to suppress student expression or viewpoints.
https://www.freedomforuminstitute.org/first-amendment-center/topics/freedom-of-speech-2/k-12-public-school-student-expression/clothing-dress-codes-uniforms/

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Ironically, both opponents and proponents of student dress codes point to the same U.S. Supreme Court ruling to support their positions Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District (1969). In this famous decision, the Court ruled 7-2 that public school officials could not censor student expression the wearing of black armbands, in that case unless they could reasonably forecast that the student expression would cause substantial disruption or material interference with school activities or would invade the rights of others.

Dress-code opponents emphasize that students convey a multitude of messages on their clothing, ranging from political slogans, music lyrics, and support for a favorite athletic team. They argue that school officials cannot censor student expression unless they can show that the clothing will disrupt the school environment. They contend that Tinker stands for the fundamental principle that students have the right to wear clothing with messages, just as the students in the 1960s could wear black armbands to protest the Vietnam War.

https://riaclu.org/en/know-your-rights/know-your-rights-students-school-dress-codes

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CAN I WEAR CLOTHING THAT COMMUNICATES A POLITICAL OR RELIGIOUS MESSAGE?

Yes. In the 1969 case of Tinker v. Des Moines, one of the most well-known student rights' cases considered by the U.S. Supreme Court, the Court ruled that students had a constitutional right to wear a black armband to school to protest U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. Since then, courts have continued to hold that students generally have a right to express political views through their clothing. This can include, for example, wearing clothing that endorses or criticizes a politician or, as in more recent cases, wearing t-shirts concerning gay rights. Additionally, schools cannot prohibit students from wearing clothes that are in observance of their religion, such as a Muslim wearing a hijab in school.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/sch_clot3.htm
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In reality, public schools must:

Be neutral with respect to religion:

They cannot promote one religion over another.

They cannot promote religion in general over a secular lifestyle.

They cannot promote a secular lifestyle over religion.


Allow students to pray, carry religious texts, discuss religious topics, and pass out religious materials on the school bus, at the flagpole, in the corridors outside of class time, in the cafeteria, etc., as long as their behavior is not disruptive.

Allow students to wear religious jewelry and clothing with religious symbols and statements -- subject of course to safety considerations. Students do not leave their First Amendment rights at the front door of the school building.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/womens-rights/womens-rights-education/5-things-public-schools-can-and-cant-do-when-it-comes

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Schools can't discriminate based on the viewpoint expressed by your clothing. The Supreme Court has recognized that public school students do not "shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate." The First Amendment prohibits schools from picking and choosing which views students are allowed to express. All views have to be treated equally, so long as they are not obscene or disruptive. This means that if a school permits items like t-shirts with slogans, buttons, or wristbands, it has to permit them no matter what message they express.
https://answersingenesis.org/public-school/rights-in-public-schools/

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2. May a student wear a tee-shirt or button with a religious slogan, Bible verse, or anti-abortion message printed on it?
Christian students may display religious messages on clothing to the same extent as other students are permitted to display comparable messages.
Shirts with printed messages are forms of symbolic speech protected by the First Amendment. Courts have only allowed suppression of symbolic speech in public schools if it were lewd or obscene, Broussard v. Sch. Brd. of City of Norfolk (E.D. Va. 1992), or if the clothing had slogans advertising alcoholic beverages, McIntire v. Berel Sch., 804 F. Supp. 1415 (W.D. Okia. 1992).



Ike didn't beat Tina this badly.
taxpreparer
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liberalag12 said:

zoneag said:

liberalag12 said:

backintexas2013 said:

liberalag12 said:

A person can wear a religious symbol or attire but not religious sayings in public schools. ANY religion. This has been the case for years. Public education is paid for by the public of all faiths. Go to a religious school that is private and one can do this. I'm a Christian and wouldn't want a person of a different faith trying to convert my child to another religion in a public school.


It was a student. It wasn't a teacher. Good grief drama much?


Drama much? It doesn't matter if it was a teacher or student. It applies to both. Read much?


Dead wrong as usual.


"Since the 1960s, the federal courts have made it crystal clear that officially sponsored prayer and proselytizing is not acceptable in the school environment"

Is this statement true or false in a PUBLIC SCHOOL?

Would you want your child to be proselytized by a person of another faith in school?







What this girl did was not officially sponsored proselytizing. True or false?
ALL IN 2013
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liberalag12 said:

A person can wear a religious symbol or attire but not religious sayings in public schools. ANY religion. This has been the case for years. Public education is paid for by the public of all faiths. Go to a religious school that is private and one can do this. I'm a Christian and wouldn't want a person of a different faith trying to convert my child to another religion in a public school.

What a pathetic post and poster. You have no idea what it means to be an American and don't deserve the freedom that people have died for that you want to throw away.
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ALL IN 2013 said:

liberalag12 said:

A person can wear a religious symbol or attire but not religious sayings in public schools. ANY religion. This has been the case for years. Public education is paid for by the public of all faiths. Go to a religious school that is private and one can do this. I'm a Christian and wouldn't want a person of a different faith trying to convert my child to another religion in a public school.

What a pathetic post and poster. You have no idea what it means to be an American and don't deserve the freedom that people have died for that you want to throw away.


Pathetic ignorance of a principle of liberty "Without religion the government of a free people cannot be maintained." -Samuel Adams
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liberalag12 said:

zoneag said:

liberalag12 said:

backintexas2013 said:

liberalag12 said:

A person can wear a religious symbol or attire but not religious sayings in public schools. ANY religion. This has been the case for years. Public education is paid for by the public of all faiths. Go to a religious school that is private and one can do this. I'm a Christian and wouldn't want a person of a different faith trying to convert my child to another religion in a public school.


It was a student. It wasn't a teacher. Good grief drama much?


Drama much? It doesn't matter if it was a teacher or student. It applies to both. Read much?


Dead wrong as usual.


"Since the 1960s, the federal courts have made it crystal clear that officially sponsored prayer and proselytizing is not acceptable in the school environment"

Is this statement true or false in a PUBLIC SCHOOL?

Would you want your child to be proselytized by a person of another faith in school?





Dead ass wrong as usual buddy.
Maroon Dawn
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Watching this epic beat down of liberalag be like

AG @ HEART
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Maroon Dawn said:

Leftists: "Wear a mask! It's literally life and death!!"

Also Leftists: "Take that mask off right now because I don't personally like the message on it!"

backintexas2013
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Has a wellness check been completed?
ProgN
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Cinco Ranch Aggie
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NICU Dad said:

CanyonAg77 said:

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A person can wear a religious symbol or attire but not religious sayings in public schools. ANY religion. This has been the case for years.

One more time.

Are you going to attempt to back up this glaring falsehood?

This is simply 180 degrees away from the truth.

https://www.adl.org/education/resources/tools-and-strategies/religion-in-public-schools/dress-codes
Quote:

The First Amendment allows for mandatory uniform policies or dress codes in the public schools. However, it also generally permits exemptions from such policies or codes for students to wear religious clothes, head coverings, symbols or other attire...

a limitation on clothing choices through uniform policies or dress codes must comply with the First Amendment's free speech clause...

Such policies as written and in application are not intended to suppress student expression or viewpoints.
https://www.freedomforuminstitute.org/first-amendment-center/topics/freedom-of-speech-2/k-12-public-school-student-expression/clothing-dress-codes-uniforms/

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Ironically, both opponents and proponents of student dress codes point to the same U.S. Supreme Court ruling to support their positions Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District (1969). In this famous decision, the Court ruled 7-2 that public school officials could not censor student expression the wearing of black armbands, in that case unless they could reasonably forecast that the student expression would cause substantial disruption or material interference with school activities or would invade the rights of others.

Dress-code opponents emphasize that students convey a multitude of messages on their clothing, ranging from political slogans, music lyrics, and support for a favorite athletic team. They argue that school officials cannot censor student expression unless they can show that the clothing will disrupt the school environment. They contend that Tinker stands for the fundamental principle that students have the right to wear clothing with messages, just as the students in the 1960s could wear black armbands to protest the Vietnam War.

https://riaclu.org/en/know-your-rights/know-your-rights-students-school-dress-codes

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CAN I WEAR CLOTHING THAT COMMUNICATES A POLITICAL OR RELIGIOUS MESSAGE?

Yes. In the 1969 case of Tinker v. Des Moines, one of the most well-known student rights' cases considered by the U.S. Supreme Court, the Court ruled that students had a constitutional right to wear a black armband to school to protest U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. Since then, courts have continued to hold that students generally have a right to express political views through their clothing. This can include, for example, wearing clothing that endorses or criticizes a politician or, as in more recent cases, wearing t-shirts concerning gay rights. Additionally, schools cannot prohibit students from wearing clothes that are in observance of their religion, such as a Muslim wearing a hijab in school.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/sch_clot3.htm
Quote:

In reality, public schools must:

Be neutral with respect to religion:

They cannot promote one religion over another.

They cannot promote religion in general over a secular lifestyle.

They cannot promote a secular lifestyle over religion.


Allow students to pray, carry religious texts, discuss religious topics, and pass out religious materials on the school bus, at the flagpole, in the corridors outside of class time, in the cafeteria, etc., as long as their behavior is not disruptive.

Allow students to wear religious jewelry and clothing with religious symbols and statements -- subject of course to safety considerations. Students do not leave their First Amendment rights at the front door of the school building.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/womens-rights/womens-rights-education/5-things-public-schools-can-and-cant-do-when-it-comes

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Schools can't discriminate based on the viewpoint expressed by your clothing. The Supreme Court has recognized that public school students do not "shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate." The First Amendment prohibits schools from picking and choosing which views students are allowed to express. All views have to be treated equally, so long as they are not obscene or disruptive. This means that if a school permits items like t-shirts with slogans, buttons, or wristbands, it has to permit them no matter what message they express.
https://answersingenesis.org/public-school/rights-in-public-schools/

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2. May a student wear a tee-shirt or button with a religious slogan, Bible verse, or anti-abortion message printed on it?
Christian students may display religious messages on clothing to the same extent as other students are permitted to display comparable messages.
Shirts with printed messages are forms of symbolic speech protected by the First Amendment. Courts have only allowed suppression of symbolic speech in public schools if it were lewd or obscene, Broussard v. Sch. Brd. of City of Norfolk (E.D. Va. 1992), or if the clothing had slogans advertising alcoholic beverages, McIntire v. Berel Sch., 804 F. Supp. 1415 (W.D. Okia. 1992).



Ike didn't beat Tina this badly.

Heck, even with the US A-bombing Japan, the Japs didn't suffer as much a beat down as this guy.
JB99
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Robin Hood Was A Thief said:

I'm not a Christian, but what the hell is wrong with someone proclaiming that Jesus loves them?


Offensive to Satanists
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aggiejim70
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Riddle me this Army. The young lady in question tells the teacher, principal, administrators, school board and on up the line that this is a token of affection from her boyfriend Jesus Garcia, The young lady sitting next to her wears a mask saying Bob Loves Me, a token of affection from her boyfriend Bob Smith. Whatcha gonna do about that?

I don't know why the left is so down on Jesus. Seems like they would be all in with guy that advised folks to render unto Caesar.
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Marlin39m said:

The front desk receptionist at Sam Rayburn MS in Bryan wears a mask every day that says "I CAN'T BREATHE."


Take the mask off you stupid *****

Ohh.. ohh you're trying to be political.
Your message would make more sense of the people pulling the " I can't breath" don't end up on the ground because they break the law.

CanyonAg77
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thirdcoast said:


Such a sad attempt at making a point.

Are we supposed to be all triggered about a mask to the moon god?
HTownAg98
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CBN is a little slow on the uptake, as this lawsuit was filed in November 2020. It looks like the case either has settled or will be settled shortly. All of the documents are on PACER if anyone wants to pay to download them and see what the terms of the settlement are. But yes, this was an incredibly dumb policy, and a case with such a similar fact pattern as Tinker v. Des Moines that the school district was bound to lose.
backintexas2013
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He is just trolling.
Faustus
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HTownAg98 said:

CBN is a little slow on the uptake, as this lawsuit was filed in November 2020. It looks like the case either has settled or will be settled shortly. All of the documents are on PACER if anyone wants to pay to download them and see what the terms of the settlement are. But yes, this was an incredibly dumb policy, and a case with such a similar fact pattern as Tinker v. Des Moines that the school district was bound to lose.
Apparently the case "settled" in January 2021.

The salient terms were that 1) the school district would send a letter retracting a prior letter of the superintendent; 2) L.B. (the minor) could wear her mask; and 3) the school district would pay $5,000 in attorneys' fees to Plaintiffs.

However on March 3, 2021, Defendants filed a Motion to Enforce the Settlement (Dkt. 32).

The gripe is over a mutual release which Defendants claim was not brought up in the email chain where the parties agreed to the settlement terms, or in the initial draft of the settlement documents which were drafted by Plaintiffs and sent to Defendants, and which only had a release of Defendants.

Once Plaintiffs' counsel realized the mistake they revised the settlement to include a mutual release, which Defendants refused to sign, claiming that they had no intention of releasing their claims. No counterclaims have been filed by Defendants, and they do not say what those claims might be.

Kind of chicken**** by Defendants. Plaintiffs proceeded to move forward with discovery (which has the added benefit of bolstering that attorneys' fees number), and Defendants moved to stay (which was granted) while the Court considers the pending motion seeking enforcement of the settlement agreement.

It's a pretty funny posture. Defendants know they have a losing case, but found an angle to try to stick it to Plaintiffs. Plaintiffs know they have a winning case, but Alliance Defending Freedom and its counsel may have slipped up in the manner in which it settled, possibly leaving the parents open to claims by the school administrators sued individually and the administrative entities.

No. 3:20-cv-00704 in the Southern District of Mississippi if anyone else wants to follow on PACER. It took a little digging to track the case down.
 
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