*****State of MN v. Derek Chauvin Trial*****

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If Michael Jackson's doctor can be convicted of involuntary manslaughter, shouldn't the prosecution be going after Hall for Floyd's death?
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Mr. AGSPRT04 said:

If Michael Jackson's doctor can be convicted of involuntary manslaughter, shouldn't the prosecution be going after Hall for Floyd's death?
not white.
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oh no said:

For some reason, I'm starting to get an inkling of a sense that maybe, just maybe, it's a tiny bit possible that the cop isn't a murderer. I'll wait for the defense witnesses and testimony though. I bet the prosecution has some tricks up their sleeve to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that asphyxiation from a cop's knee during restraint was the only cause of death.
. waitwhat? will be along soon to tell us don't prejudged but it's definitely manslaughter...
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A is A said:

Mr. AGSPRT04 said:

If Michael Jackson's doctor can be convicted of involuntary manslaughter, shouldn't the prosecution be going after Hall for Floyd's death?
not white.

Neither was he
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I wonder if from now on, when I hear the phrase "witness for the prosecution", I will think of fish rolling their eyes back into their head as they die.
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Mr. AGSPRT04 said:

If Michael Jackson's doctor can be convicted of involuntary manslaughter, shouldn't the prosecution be going after Hall for Floyd's death?


I asked that yesterday. If anything Hall and Dispatch that was watching the TV instead of telling the ambulance where to go should be on trial.
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Mr. AGSPRT04 said:

A is A said:

Mr. AGSPRT04 said:

If Michael Jackson's doctor can be convicted of involuntary manslaughter, shouldn't the prosecution be going after Hall for Floyd's death?
not white.

Neither was he

then I have no answer for you. Maybe Floyd's estate goes after Hall at a later date? seems reasonable.
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Bondag said:

Mr. AGSPRT04 said:

If Michael Jackson's doctor can be convicted of involuntary manslaughter, shouldn't the prosecution be going after Hall for Floyd's death?


I asked that yesterday. If anything Hall and Dispatch that was watching the TV instead of telling the ambulance where to go should be on trial.

My have the turn tables.
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aginlakeway said:

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NewOldAg said:

Yup. But again, we're all armchair jurors at this point. There's only 12(+/- 2) people that matter and they're actually in the jury box.

I can't imagine how that witness was anything but good for Defense, but I also can't imagine how this trial ever got to this point.
If the prosecution doesn't have absolutely stellar experts, it will be quite an uphill climb to get to proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

How quickly the narrative of the state's case has fallen apart by their own witnesses.

Yep posters on here will still tell you he is a murderer.
Well that's because they refuse to look or listen to the evidence. Nelson is drawing straight lines directly to what was happening with Floyd on that fateful day. His behaviors were the same as his GF had observed when he was using those pills that he either obtained from Hall or Hill who were both in the car with Floyd on the day of the encounter with police. Hall also had tried to pass fake bills with Floyd. None of them were working anymore because of covid so is it a far stretch to believe they were getting wasted a lot?
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For the record, the 20 minute recess has been 33 minutes.
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Good Poster said:

For the record, the 20 minute recess has been 33 minutes.
Maybe the prosecution is just going to rest now.
Hillary paid for warrant to spy on Trump.
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Good Poster said:

For the record, the 20 minute recess has been 33 minutes.


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Bondag said:

Good Poster said:

For the record, the 20 minute recess has been 33 minutes.





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I mean, I'm not calling this defense "art," but the organic way that the narrative is being defined is impressive. I'm even tempted to quote Bret Bielema after whooping tu, but that feels inappropriate.
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Coaching them extra hard after that last one
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Good Poster said:

For the record, the 20 minute recess has been 33 minutes.

The Court is just entertaining defense's motion for a directed verdict
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Readzilla said:

Coaching them extra hard after that last one
Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the mouth.
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NewOldAg said:

I mean, I'm not calling this defense "art," but the organic way that the narrative is being defined is impressive. I'm even tempted to quote Bret Bielema after whooping tu, but that feels inappropriate.
Nelson was taking a couple of hits earlier for not being aggressive enough but he obviously knew what was coming. And he handled her extremely well even when she wasn't being cooperative.
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Anyone thinks this recess is going past 45 minutes?
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DallasAg 94 said:

If I were on the jury, here is what I want to know.

What was in the toxicology report from his March 2020 OD.

The Defense has already established similarities to the consumed drugs. If his Toxicology from the autopsy shows higher levels than his OD in March...game over... back up the Brinks truck for Chauvin.
To the tune of $27,000,001 ?
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DallasAg 94 said:

If I were on the jury, here is what I want to know.

What was in the toxicology report from his March 2020 OD.

The Defense has already established similarities to the consumed drugs. If his Toxicology from the autopsy shows higher levels than his OD in March...game over... back up the Brinks truck for Chauvin.
THIS. Holy **** this.

Damn, that would be all she wrote.
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A is A said:

Mr. AGSPRT04 said:

A is A said:

Mr. AGSPRT04 said:

If Michael Jackson's doctor can be convicted of involuntary manslaughter, shouldn't the prosecution be going after Hall for Floyd's death?
not white.

Neither was he

then I have no answer for you. Maybe Floyd's estate goes after Hall at a later date? seems reasonable.


Wonder what, uhhhh, assets Mr. Entrepreneur Hall has that the Floyds can go after? Oxy, coke, heroin?
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DallasAg 94 said:

If I were on the jury, here is what I want to know.

What was in the toxicology report from his March 2020 OD.

The Defense has already established similarities to the consumed drugs. If his Toxicology from the autopsy shows higher levels than his OD in March...game over... back up the Brinks truck for Chauvin.
The medical experts for the defense will have seen those records.
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20 minute recess was 48 minutes. Could be something, could be nothing.
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I think someone just got caught streaming trial coverage in the courtroom. There was a repeat of the judge's "sorry for the delay" remark to the jury, about 30 seconds after he said it.
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What happened?
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Whoa, was someone recording the judge?
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Lady prosecutor. Eldridge is up but Cahill then calls them into chambers for some reason.
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Thought he said cell phone.
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So it makes sense then for State to go full emotional sell out of the gate and try to win the lower charges early.

If causation is nearly impossible to prove, murder won't even get to the jury but would be struck by directed verdict.
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Seth Bravender is next witness. He's a paramedic in Hennepin County.
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