The border is now closed

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APHIS AG
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Biden figured out that it was a "crises" that has seen more illegals in 20 years "invade" the country.

He is an idiot and the Republicans are finally slamming him.
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He's also a racist xenophobe for closing the border.
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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you may all go to hell and i will go to Texas
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Probably the Canadian border.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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As I've said many, many times, if they really want to fix it, the first step should be to deny any and all benefits to illegal aliens.

No medical coverage unless paid for in cash. No unemployment. No free schools. No driver's license. No food stamps. No welfare. No tax credits.

Do this, and most of the issues would quickly become moot.
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I think his point is, Eric, that the Dems intentionally write language into laws that specifically includes these benefits for illegals. Hence the issue. Not only are they not fixing it. They are actively encouraging it.

Your post sounds overly simplistic when the Dems are doing the exact opposite on purpose.
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Also love how the libs are trying to make this Trumps fault

"All we did was throw open the doors and say "come on in! Free stuff for all!" Who could have seen a mad rush as the consequence?! This is the fault of the guy who kept the doors shut!!!"
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jefe95 said:

I think his point is, Eric, that the Dems intentionally write language into laws that specifically includes these benefits for illegals. Hence the issue. Not only are they not fixing it. They are actively encouraging it.

Your post sounds overly simplistic when the Dems are doing the exact opposite on purpose.
You are correct. We certainly know that the Democrats don't actually want to solve the problem.
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Oh those mean tweets...
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I wouldn't assume E76 would have voted for Biden. There's a broad gulf between disliking Trump and supporting the lunatic progressive left.
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Wouldn't most on this board support a shutdown while they work on the infrastructure on the border to run it responsibly?
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Rhonda the Rash said:

Wouldn't most on this board support a shutdown while they work on the infrastructure on the border to run it responsibly?


I'm going to guess your version of "run responsibly" is "catch and release" heck it's probably not even "catch"

But go ahead, tell us what "run responsibly" means to you
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Rhonda the Rash said:

Wouldn't most on this board support a shutdown while they work on the infrastructure on the border to run it responsibly?
It was running "responsibly" until the idiot in chief decided to open it for a free for all.
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Rhonda the Rash said:

Wouldn't most on this board support a shutdown while they work on the infrastructure on the border to run it responsibly?
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Maroon Dawn said:

Rhonda the Rash said:

Wouldn't most on this board support a shutdown while they work on the infrastructure on the border to run it responsibly?


I'm going to guess your version of "run responsibly" is "catch and release"
In every scenario, no, not at all.

The way I personally would run the border wouldn't be like the Dems or Republicans. But still you would hate it.
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Rhonda the Rash said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Rhonda the Rash said:

Wouldn't most on this board support a shutdown while they work on the infrastructure on the border to run it responsibly?


I'm going to guess your version of "run responsibly" is "catch and release"
In every scenario, no, not at all.

The way I personally would run the border wouldn't be like the Dems or Republicans. But still you would hate it.


I'm guessing that's because unless someone is dumb enough to confess to being a cartel member you'd automatically let them in and give them citizenship on the spot
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Maroon Dawn said:

Rhonda the Rash said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Rhonda the Rash said:

Wouldn't most on this board support a shutdown while they work on the infrastructure on the border to run it responsibly?


I'm going to guess your version of "run responsibly" is "catch and release"
In every scenario, no, not at all.

The way I personally would run the border wouldn't be like the Dems or Republicans. But still you would hate it.


I'm guessing that's because unless someone is dumb enough to confess to being a cartel member you'd automatically let them in and give them citizenship on the spot
I don't know about Rhonda, but how about giving them a math test that they have to pass.

If they can either prove or disprove that P=NP, let them in.
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eric76 said:

As I've said many, many times, if they really want to fix it, the first step should be to deny any and all benefits to illegal aliens.

No medical coverage unless paid for in cash. No unemployment. No free schools. No driver's license. No food stamps. No welfare. No tax credits.

Do this, and most of the issues would quickly become moot.
And yet you voted for a party that had 11 or 12 representatives in the DNC debate that all raised their hands when they said that they would provide "free" healthcare to illegal aliens.

YOU (and several thousand dead people )are directly a part of the problem.
It's not the severity of the punishment that deters crime; it's the certainty of it.
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That's a big lie.
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If you voted for Biden it is not a lie.
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Maroon Dawn said:

Rhonda the Rash said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Rhonda the Rash said:

Wouldn't most on this board support a shutdown while they work on the infrastructure on the border to run it responsibly?


I'm going to guess your version of "run responsibly" is "catch and release"
In every scenario, no, not at all.

The way I personally would run the border wouldn't be like the Dems or Republicans. But still you would hate it.


I'm guessing that's because unless someone is dumb enough to confess to being a cartel member you'd automatically let them in and give them citizenship on the spot


No.

-no border wall
-spend the same amount from the wall on technology such as sensors and drones; also on more border patrol agents
-anyone who doesn't come through a checkpoint gets sent back. If they want to be taken to a checkpoint we would provide that transportation
-beef up all checkpoints with temporary housing, manpower, lawyers, background checks
-if someone comes to a checkpoint give them a yes or no within two weeks of applying
-families all stay together
-asylum seeking isn't a crime

That's the basics.
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eric76 said:

That's a big lie.
Which part is the lie? This part?

https://djhjmedia.com/rich/democratic-convention-features-illegal-alien-who-demands-she-deserves-free-healthcare-on-the-taxpayers-dime/

This part?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/06/27/all_dem_candidates_raise_hand_when_asked_if_illegal_immigrants_should_get_health_care_coverage_at_debate.html

This part?

Or the part where you allegedly didnt vote for Biden, given that you have probably the worst case of TDS in America?

Please tell me, concered moderate, who you voted for in the Presidential Election?
It's not the severity of the punishment that deters crime; it's the certainty of it.
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So cutting through all your crap, you want it to be super easy to cross the border and then IF caught for doing so, just have to bring a kid or claim asylum and you release them into America never to be heard from again

You want the Obama border again

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ironmanag said:

If you voted for Biden it is not a lie.
In 1982, I voted for a Democrat who I personally knew for the Texas House of Representatives. That was the last time, and quite possibly the only time, that I ever voted for a Democrat in any state or national election.

About the only other exception that there may be was when Texas A&M Economics prof Phil Gramm ran for the House in 1978. I don't remember if I voted for the Republican candidate or for Phil Gramm who was a Democrat then.

I have also never voted in any Democratic Primary, even in 1976 when Texas was overwhelmingly Democrat.

So any claim that I voted for Biden is a big fat lie. I wish people would stop using such lies for ad hominem attacks and thread derails.
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richardag said:

Probably the Canadian border.
No I think he let Fauci close "On the Border"
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eric76 said:

As I've said many, many times, if they really want to fix it, the first step should be to deny any and all benefits to illegal aliens.

No medical coverage unless paid for in cash. No unemployment. No free schools. No driver's license. No food stamps. No welfare. No tax credits.

Do this, and most of the issues would quickly become moot.
No voting for 15 years either. And just make that blanket. So you don't have to determine how illegally came. Just no vote for 15 years after entering the country. That will give them time to see the toxic effect of Democrat policies outside of press and school brainwashing. If they still want to vote Democrat after 15 years, fine. You know they were not manipulated.
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Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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doubledog said:

richardag said:

Probably the Canadian border.
No I think he let Fauci close "On the Border"

And Borders bookstore.
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Rhonda the Rash said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Rhonda the Rash said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Rhonda the Rash said:

Wouldn't most on this board support a shutdown while they work on the infrastructure on the border to run it responsibly?


I'm going to guess your version of "run responsibly" is "catch and release"
In every scenario, no, not at all.

The way I personally would run the border wouldn't be like the Dems or Republicans. But still you would hate it.


I'm guessing that's because unless someone is dumb enough to confess to being a cartel member you'd automatically let them in and give them citizenship on the spot


No.

-no border wall
-spend the same amount from the wall on technology such and sensors and drones; also on more border patrol agents
-anyone who doesn't come through a checkpoint gets sent back. If they want to be taken to a border we would provide that transportation
-beef up all checkpoints with temporary housing, manpower, lawyers, background checks
-if someone comes to a checkpoint give them a yes or no within two weeks of applying
-families all stay together
-asylum seeking isn't a crime

That's the basics.
The wall works. As someone who lives and works directly on the border I can tell you it works. Post whatever stats you want, If someone crosses, send them back. No Ifs ands or buts. Come in legally and stop mooching of our already corrupt system.
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APHIS AG said:

Biden figured out that it was a "crises" that has seen more illegals in 20 years "invade" the country.

He is an idiot and the Republicans are finally slamming him.
Aphis Ag,

What is your OP referring to though -- your title confuses and your post implies it too --- did Biden change instructions about the border?
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Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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titan said:

eric76 said:

As I've said many, many times, if they really want to fix it, the first step should be to deny any and all benefits to illegal aliens.

No medical coverage unless paid for in cash. No unemployment. No free schools. No driver's license. No food stamps. No welfare. No tax credits.

Do this, and most of the issues would quickly become moot.
No voting for 15 years either. And just make that blanket. So you don't have to determine how illegally came. Just no vote for 15 years after entering the country. That will give them time to see the toxic effect of Democrat policies outside of press and school brainwashing. If they still want to vote Democrat after 15 years, fine. You know they were not manipulated.

Guest worker program. No path to citizenship.
$5,000 application fee for asylum. Payable in cash. (Fee waved if you stay in your own country)
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doubledog said:

titan said:

eric76 said:

As I've said many, many times, if they really want to fix it, the first step should be to deny any and all benefits to illegal aliens.

No medical coverage unless paid for in cash. No unemployment. No free schools. No driver's license. No food stamps. No welfare. No tax credits.

Do this, and most of the issues would quickly become moot.
No voting for 15 years either. And just make that blanket. So you don't have to determine how illegally came. Just no vote for 15 years after entering the country. That will give them time to see the toxic effect of Democrat policies outside of press and school brainwashing. If they still want to vote Democrat after 15 years, fine. You know they were not manipulated.

Guest worker program. No path to citizenship.
$5,000 application fee for asylum. Payable in cash. (Fee waved if you stay in your own country)

You would have to remove birthright citizenship or they will just drop anchor babies.
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Hoyt Ag said:

Rhonda the Rash said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Rhonda the Rash said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Rhonda the Rash said:

Wouldn't most on this board support a shutdown while they work on the infrastructure on the border to run it responsibly?


I'm going to guess your version of "run responsibly" is "catch and release"
In every scenario, no, not at all.

The way I personally would run the border wouldn't be like the Dems or Republicans. But still you would hate it.


I'm guessing that's because unless someone is dumb enough to confess to being a cartel member you'd automatically let them in and give them citizenship on the spot


No.

-no border wall
-spend the same amount from the wall on technology such and sensors and drones; also on more border patrol agents
-anyone who doesn't come through a checkpoint gets sent back. If they want to be taken to a border we would provide that transportation
-beef up all checkpoints with temporary housing, manpower, lawyers, background checks
-if someone comes to a checkpoint give them a yes or no within two weeks of applying
-families all stay together
-asylum seeking isn't a crime

That's the basics.
The wall works. As someone who lives and works directly on the border I can tell you it works. Post whatever stats you want, If someone crosses, send them back. No Ifs ands or buts. Come in legally and stop mooching of our already corrupt system.
I went to high school in Mission/ McAllen and have many friends that still live down there including a few that own large amounts of farmland on the river. The three people I know who own land on the river do not like it, are upset with it going through their land and think spending money on technology and manpower is the better idea. All of them and their families are republicans.
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