No more taco bell?

But I haven't had a Quesalupa yet

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eric76 said:

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As I've said many, many times, if they really want to fix it, the first step should be to deny any and all benefits to illegal aliens.

No medical coverage unless paid for in cash. No unemployment. No free schools. No driver's license. No food stamps. No welfare. No tax credits.

Do this, and most of the issues would quickly become moot.

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No voting for 15 years either. And just make that blanket. So you don't have to determine how illegally came. Just no vote for 15 years after entering the country. That will give them time to see the toxic effect of Democrat policies outside of press and school brainwashing. If they still want to vote Democrat after 15 years, fine. You know they were not manipulated.

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Guest worker program. No path to citizenship.
$5,000 application fee for asylum. Payable in cash. (Fee waved if you stay in your own country)

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You would have to remove birthright citizenship or they will just drop anchor babies.

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We used to have the Bracero program which was a guest worker program. It worked quite well.

The workers would come here without their wives and kids and send much of the money earned home to the wives. Periodically, they would go home to visit their families and might or might not come back.

None of the Bracero workers around here that I know of brought their families with them.

One of the requirements was that the employer house the workers. In my community, this was done by us having a bunk house for the workers from the various farms in the area. We got paid by the local farmers so much per week for their housing and to take them to town on Saturday afternoons/evenings to buy groceries.

I grew up considering it normal to go to town every Saturday afternoon with the back of the pickup loaded with Bracero workers regardless of the weather. We'd drop them off in town and then meet them two or three hours later at the grocery store.

Every morning, the local farmers would drive up to the bunk house and pick up their workers and then return them in the evening.

All but one of the workers who stayed in the bunk house were good people. Only one was nasty tempered and the others would kind of watch out for my younger brother and me.

One time an aquaintance of mine and I were talking about this program. He grow up on a farm between Amarillo and Lubbock and they often had a worker from the Bracero program as well. He said that one of their workers was the boxing champion of Mexico in one of the lighter weight classes. He was making more money working in Texas in the Bracero program than he made off of his boxing in Mexico City.

Good for you. Would you like a participation trophy?? Let me know when you own miles of land along the border and deal with it each day.

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APHIS AG said:

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Biden figured out that it was a "crises" that has seen more illegals in 20 years "invade" the country.

He is an idiot and the Republicans are finally slamming him.

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Aphis Ag,

What is your OP referring to though -- your title confuses and your post implies it too --- did Biden change instructions about the border?

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No, he just closed it. However, Republicans are urging Biden to reinstate Trumps regulations.

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If you voted for Biden it is not a lie.

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In 1982, I voted for a Democrat who I personally knew for the Texas House of Representatives. That was the last time, and quite possibly the only time, that I ever voted for a Democrat in any state or national election.

About the only other exception that there may be was when Texas A&M Economics prof Phil Gramm ran for the House in 1978. I don't remember if I voted for the Republican candidate or for Phil Gramm who was a Democrat then.

I have also never voted in any Democratic Primary, even in 1976 when Texas was overwhelmingly Democrat.

So any claim that I voted for Biden is a big fat lie. I wish people would stop using such lies for ad hominem attacks and thread derails.

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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Wouldn't most on this board support a shutdown while they work on the infrastructure on the border to run it responsibly?

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I would support totally closing the border. No entry by anyone. Get caught here illegally, cane them, throw them over the border. Catch them a second time, cane them twice as much, throw them over the border. Hire one of them, cane the employer, throw him or her over the border. Problem solved in a matter of days.

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eric76 said:

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ironmanag said:

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If you voted for Biden it is not a lie.

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In 1982, I voted for a Democrat who I personally knew for the Texas House of Representatives. That was the last time, and quite possibly the only time, that I ever voted for a Democrat in any state or national election.

About the only other exception that there may be was when Texas A&M Economics prof Phil Gramm ran for the House in 1978. I don't remember if I voted for the Republican candidate or for Phil Gramm who was a Democrat then.

I have also never voted in any Democratic Primary, even in 1976 when Texas was overwhelmingly Democrat.

So any claim that I voted for Biden is a big fat lie. I wish people would stop using such lies for ad hominem attacks and thread derails.

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Because the only choices were Trump or Biden?

Plus, you must not spend much time on this board if you think he voted for Biden.

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BadMoonRisin said:

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eric76 said:

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ironmanag said:

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If you voted for Biden it is not a lie.

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In 1982, I voted for a Democrat who I personally knew for the Texas House of Representatives. That was the last time, and quite possibly the only time, that I ever voted for a Democrat in any state or national election.

About the only other exception that there may be was when Texas A&M Economics prof Phil Gramm ran for the House in 1978. I don't remember if I voted for the Republican candidate or for Phil Gramm who was a Democrat then.

I have also never voted in any Democratic Primary, even in 1976 when Texas was overwhelmingly Democrat.

So any claim that I voted for Biden is a big fat lie. I wish people would stop using such lies for ad hominem attacks and thread derails.

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Because the only choices were Trump or Biden?

Plus, you must not spend much time on this board if you think he voted for Biden.

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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eric76 said:

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ironmanag said:

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If you voted for Biden it is not a lie.

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In 1982, I voted for a Democrat who I personally knew for the Texas House of Representatives. That was the last time, and quite possibly the only time, that I ever voted for a Democrat in any state or national election.

About the only other exception that there may be was when Texas A&M Economics prof Phil Gramm ran for the House in 1978. I don't remember if I voted for the Republican candidate or for Phil Gramm who was a Democrat then.

I have also never voted in any Democratic Primary, even in 1976 when Texas was overwhelmingly Democrat.

So any claim that I voted for Biden is a big fat lie. I wish people would stop using such lies for ad hominem attacks and thread derails.

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Because the only choices were Trump or Biden?

Plus, you must not spend much time on this board if you think he voted for Biden.

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Sorry that reality hurts.

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As I've said many, many times, if they really want to fix it, the first step should be to deny any and all benefits to illegal aliens.

No medical coverage unless paid for in cash. No unemployment. No free schools. No driver's license. No food stamps. No welfare. No tax credits.

Do this, and most of the issues would quickly become moot.

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Someone tell Eric that his account was hijacked.

Rhonda the Rash said:

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Hoyt Ag said:

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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Wouldn't most on this board support a shutdown while they work on the infrastructure on the border to run it responsibly?

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I'm going to guess your version of "run responsibly" is "catch and release"

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In every scenario, no, not at all.

The way I personally would run the border wouldn't be like the Dems or Republicans. But still you would hate it.

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I'm guessing that's because unless someone is dumb enough to confess to being a cartel member you'd automatically let them in and give them citizenship on the spot

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No.

-no border wall
-spend the same amount from the wall on technology such and sensors and drones; also on more border patrol agents
-anyone who doesn't come through a checkpoint gets sent back. If they want to be taken to a border we would provide that transportation
-beef up all checkpoints with temporary housing, manpower, lawyers, background checks
-if someone comes to a checkpoint give them a yes or no within two weeks of applying
-families all stay together
-asylum seeking isn't a crime

That's the basics.

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The wall works. As someone who lives and works directly on the border I can tell you it works. Post whatever stats you want, If someone crosses, send them back. No Ifs ands or buts. Come in legally and stop mooching of our already corrupt system.

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I went to high school in Mission/ McAllen and have many friends that still live down there including a few that own large amounts of farmland on the river. The three people I know who own land on the river do not like it, are upset with it going through their land and think spending money on technology and manpower is the better idea. All of them and their families are republicans.

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My family owns land along/near the river and we love it - less cutting of our fences or destruction of other equipment/buildings, less trash on our land...

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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Hoyt Ag said:

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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Wouldn't most on this board support a shutdown while they work on the infrastructure on the border to run it responsibly?

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I'm going to guess your version of "run responsibly" is "catch and release"

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In every scenario, no, not at all.

The way I personally would run the border wouldn't be like the Dems or Republicans. But still you would hate it.

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I'm guessing that's because unless someone is dumb enough to confess to being a cartel member you'd automatically let them in and give them citizenship on the spot

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No.

-no border wall
-spend the same amount from the wall on technology such and sensors and drones; also on more border patrol agents
-anyone who doesn't come through a checkpoint gets sent back. If they want to be taken to a border we would provide that transportation
-beef up all checkpoints with temporary housing, manpower, lawyers, background checks
-if someone comes to a checkpoint give them a yes or no within two weeks of applying
-families all stay together
-asylum seeking isn't a crime

That's the basics.

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The wall works. As someone who lives and works directly on the border I can tell you it works. Post whatever stats you want, If someone crosses, send them back. No Ifs ands or buts. Come in legally and stop mooching of our already corrupt system.

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I went to high school in Mission/ McAllen and have many friends that still live down there including a few that own large amounts of farmland on the river. The three people I know who own land on the river do not like it, are upset with it going through their land and think spending money on technology and manpower is the better idea. All of them and their families are republicans.

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My family owns land along/near the river and we love it - less cutting of our fences or destruction of other equipment/buildings, less trash on our land...

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Two families had it cut through their farm causing them to lose usable land and raise labor cost dealing with using the gates to pass through.

One family had their family cemetery left on the other side of the wall.

I hope every Biden voter gets to experience some illegal alien crime. **** all of them for voting for this disaster of a border policy.

Rhonda the Rash said:

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TRM said:

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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Hoyt Ag said:

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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Wouldn't most on this board support a shutdown while they work on the infrastructure on the border to run it responsibly?

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I'm going to guess your version of "run responsibly" is "catch and release"

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In every scenario, no, not at all.

The way I personally would run the border wouldn't be like the Dems or Republicans. But still you would hate it.

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I'm guessing that's because unless someone is dumb enough to confess to being a cartel member you'd automatically let them in and give them citizenship on the spot

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No.

-no border wall
-spend the same amount from the wall on technology such and sensors and drones; also on more border patrol agents
-anyone who doesn't come through a checkpoint gets sent back. If they want to be taken to a border we would provide that transportation
-beef up all checkpoints with temporary housing, manpower, lawyers, background checks
-if someone comes to a checkpoint give them a yes or no within two weeks of applying
-families all stay together
-asylum seeking isn't a crime

That's the basics.

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The wall works. As someone who lives and works directly on the border I can tell you it works. Post whatever stats you want, If someone crosses, send them back. No Ifs ands or buts. Come in legally and stop mooching of our already corrupt system.

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I went to high school in Mission/ McAllen and have many friends that still live down there including a few that own large amounts of farmland on the river. The three people I know who own land on the river do not like it, are upset with it going through their land and think spending money on technology and manpower is the better idea. All of them and their families are republicans.

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My family owns land along/near the river and we love it - less cutting of our fences or destruction of other equipment/buildings, less trash on our land...

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Two families had it cut through their farm causing them to lose usable land and raise labor cost dealing with using the gates to pass through.

One family had their family cemetery left on the other side of the wall.

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Your anecdotes don't outweigh the prevailing opinion down there. Your idea of drones, no wall, etc. is asinine fantasy land bs. Surprise surprise.

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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TRM said:

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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Hoyt Ag said:

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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Wouldn't most on this board support a shutdown while they work on the infrastructure on the border to run it responsibly?

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I'm going to guess your version of "run responsibly" is "catch and release"

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In every scenario, no, not at all.

The way I personally would run the border wouldn't be like the Dems or Republicans. But still you would hate it.

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I'm guessing that's because unless someone is dumb enough to confess to being a cartel member you'd automatically let them in and give them citizenship on the spot

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No.

-no border wall
-spend the same amount from the wall on technology such and sensors and drones; also on more border patrol agents
-anyone who doesn't come through a checkpoint gets sent back. If they want to be taken to a border we would provide that transportation
-beef up all checkpoints with temporary housing, manpower, lawyers, background checks
-if someone comes to a checkpoint give them a yes or no within two weeks of applying
-families all stay together
-asylum seeking isn't a crime

That's the basics.

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The wall works. As someone who lives and works directly on the border I can tell you it works. Post whatever stats you want, If someone crosses, send them back. No Ifs ands or buts. Come in legally and stop mooching of our already corrupt system.

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I went to high school in Mission/ McAllen and have many friends that still live down there including a few that own large amounts of farmland on the river. The three people I know who own land on the river do not like it, are upset with it going through their land and think spending money on technology and manpower is the better idea. All of them and their families are republicans.

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My family owns land along/near the river and we love it - less cutting of our fences or destruction of other equipment/buildings, less trash on our land...

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Two families had it cut through their farm causing them to lose usable land and raise labor cost dealing with using the gates to pass through.

One family had their family cemetery left on the other side of the wall.

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Your anecdotes don't outweigh the prevailing opinion down there. Your idea of drones, no wall, etc. is asinine fantasy land bs. Surprise surprise.

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Username does not check out

They are examples not anecdotes

Majority of people in the valley don't want a wall, even if the majority of people you associate with do. I also know many in the valley who want the wall.

To crackdown on illegal immigration, the US Government must crackdown on illegal employment. Employers do not hire illegal aliens out of the goodness of their hearts. They hire illegal aliens to pay them less and work them harder often under terrible working conditions. Many employers use the threat of calling ICE if the illegal employees complain. Employers hire illegal aliens so they can undercut their competition. The competition that employs American citizens. Countless citizens have lost their jobs because their company could not compete with those companies that cheat the system.

The solutions are, as usual, straightforward and based on common sense, but many members of Congress continue to fight against them. We must continue to step up work site enforcement, which requires Congress to fund more law enforcement positions for ICE to actually investigate companies across the nation. And because identity-fraud is so rampant with illegal alien employment, the Social Security Administration (SSA) database must be updated to make sure people are not using someone else's Social Security number.

The fix is not rocket science. Whenever the SSA finds someone using a number that doesn't belong to them, they can immediately send that information to ICE for follow-up. Not only would this provide ICE with valuable leads to investigate criminal behavior, it would help address identify theft. But first and foremost, E-Verify needs to be mandatory. E-Verify is an online system which compares information on Form I-9 (Employment Eligibility Verification) to U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and SSA records to confirm authorization to work in the U.S.

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/524920-to-stop-illegal-immigration-crack-down-on-illegal-employment

Rhonda the Rash said:

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TRM said:

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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Hoyt Ag said:

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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Wouldn't most on this board support a shutdown while they work on the infrastructure on the border to run it responsibly?

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I'm going to guess your version of "run responsibly" is "catch and release"

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In every scenario, no, not at all.

The way I personally would run the border wouldn't be like the Dems or Republicans. But still you would hate it.

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I'm guessing that's because unless someone is dumb enough to confess to being a cartel member you'd automatically let them in and give them citizenship on the spot

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No.

-no border wall
-spend the same amount from the wall on technology such and sensors and drones; also on more border patrol agents
-anyone who doesn't come through a checkpoint gets sent back. If they want to be taken to a border we would provide that transportation
-beef up all checkpoints with temporary housing, manpower, lawyers, background checks
-if someone comes to a checkpoint give them a yes or no within two weeks of applying
-families all stay together
-asylum seeking isn't a crime

That's the basics.

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The wall works. As someone who lives and works directly on the border I can tell you it works. Post whatever stats you want, If someone crosses, send them back. No Ifs ands or buts. Come in legally and stop mooching of our already corrupt system.

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I went to high school in Mission/ McAllen and have many friends that still live down there including a few that own large amounts of farmland on the river. The three people I know who own land on the river do not like it, are upset with it going through their land and think spending money on technology and manpower is the better idea. All of them and their families are republicans.

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My family owns land along/near the river and we love it - less cutting of our fences or destruction of other equipment/buildings, less trash on our land...

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Two families had it cut through their farm causing them to lose usable land and raise labor cost dealing with using the gates to pass through.

One family had their family cemetery left on the other side of the wall.

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While I feel for them, the security/sovereignty of our nation is kind of a big deal.

How long will the "Biden Border Crisis" be blamed on COVID?

What looks like burritos at a gas station is actually a bunch of Mexican kids in Biden cages.

New Zealand-closes border and libs love their toothy PM

Japan-closes border and libs don't make mention because men run that place.

Russia-closes border and libs don't make mention because Vlad helped Trump.

US-Trump-closes border to muz zies and China virus carriers and Libe lose it.

WTH?

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Majority of people in the valley don't want a wall, even if the majority of people you associate with do. I also know many in the valley who want the wall.

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Agree with this. Most in the RGV realize that the wall or a wall as it was being presented would only be as good as the maintenance and attention it was given in terms of security. A wall or the wall is absolutely pointless when the goal of the folks crossing is to turn themselves in, and the government allows it.

The pork barrel component of the wall should be a beacon to all fiscal conservatives, the deal is rife with corruption and unjust compensation not to mention taking private property. IMO Trumps crowning achievement in regards to immigration is what he accomplished with threatening Mexico with tariffs on imports. That got more action going in Mexico than anything seen, ever. Mexico put the hammer down and I would guess the number of wets dropped, from what I saw (I am in Mexico daily and cross the border now again daily) by about 70%, and the Central American numbers were probably down 90%.

Within days of Biden taking office the bus stations started having Africans, Haitians, not to mention slews of Central American's.

The key to fighting and winning this war is to fight it on Mexican soil. Wanna build a wall, make the Mexicans build it, or if not have them stop illegal exits from their country. They could do that much better and cheaper than the US could, and when they thought crazy ass Trump would hit them in the pocket book putting Mexicans outta work they step and fetched.

Hoyt Ag said:

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Rhonda the Rash said:

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Wouldn't most on this board support a shutdown while they work on the infrastructure on the border to run it responsibly?

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I'm going to guess your version of "run responsibly" is "catch and release"

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In every scenario, no, not at all.

The way I personally would run the border wouldn't be like the Dems or Republicans. But still you would hate it.

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I'm guessing that's because unless someone is dumb enough to confess to being a cartel member you'd automatically let them in and give them citizenship on the spot

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No.

-no border wall
-spend the same amount from the wall on technology such and sensors and drones; also on more border patrol agents
-anyone who doesn't come through a checkpoint gets sent back. If they want to be taken to a border we would provide that transportation
-beef up all checkpoints with temporary housing, manpower, lawyers, background checks
-if someone comes to a checkpoint give them a yes or no within two weeks of applying
-families all stay together
-asylum seeking isn't a crime

That's the basics.

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The wall works. As someone who lives and works directly on the border I can tell you it works. Post whatever stats you want, If someone crosses, send them back. No Ifs ands or buts. Come in legally and stop mooching of our already corrupt system.

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Totally agree with the wall working and sending illegals back immediately. What country can you go to an say, "Make me a citizen!" and they will transport, house and feed you while paying for your legal fees and process. Insane!!!! I mean...how did Rhonda the Rash type that out and not realize how insane it sounds.