Thankfully, I am married to someone who is a minority in that population.

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BadMoonRisin said:

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They did the same thing to DeSantis. He came out ok.

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You may recall that DeSantis, as great as his resume is, BARELY beat some FAMU druggie mayor in the last gubernatorial race. Having done a great job, he may have an easier time going forward, but Dem ballot harvesting and cheating has gotten pretty well-refined and wide-spread. Kemp in GA is almost surely going to lose to Abrams next cycle.

A D gov...in GA.

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GA voted blue in the presidential election.

Not really surprising - it is a state that is dominated by Atlanta in terms of population. Any large metro area is automatically blue, and GA doesn't have the rural population to counter what Atlanta metro does. No different than NY, CA, etc. in terms of where it is and where it will be for the foreseeable future.

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Abbott doesnt seem to have the fight that desantis does. He doesnt/wont call a spade.

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He just doesn't seem genuine to me. He strikes me as a typical spineless arrogant politician trying to sound conservative to pacify his base. To me, he was genuine back in March/April when he arrogantly told barbers "we'll let you know" when you can open. His true elitism and arrogance came though. I think he's been getting hammered by the conservative base and he knows that there are going to be some strong primary contenders to get him out in 2022. He's full of cliches, Texas must be resilient, stand together, blah blah blah.

Desantis to me seems genuine. He doesn't take any crap from the left. He seems to be speaking from the heart and off the cuff and he gives it right back to them. I've never seen Abbott do that. He's reading from a script. I'm glad he came out with the stance he did, trust me, but it's just a different vibe with him than with Desantis.


having said all that, I'll still vote for him if he's the R nominee. You people who are willing to go with a D just to make a point are crazy.

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Tea Party said:

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Don't care how he's treated in the media. He enabled the hoax with his 8 month mandate and restricting businesses from opening.

Short memories of voters allow bad beaurocrats like Abbott to maintain power.

The mountain he will have to climb to earn my vote is nearly insurmountable.

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Let's say he's polling neck and neck with Beto in '22.

You're willing to stay home and risk Governor O'Rourke? Do you think that will result in better policies for Texas than if Abbott was Governor?

I completely understand an attempt to oust him in the primary. Depending on the opponent, I might join the effort. But opening the door for a Dem to win the governorship is chopping off your hand because you have a hangnail.

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This. This **** right ****ing here.

You guys need to understand that while yes, Abbott made an absolute mess of things in handling this, you're still MILES AND MILES better off with him than Beta, or any other democrat. You think it's been dumb in Texas? Try living under Tommy Tyrant up here in PA. I'll take Abbott in a heartbeat over that ***hole.

If you don't want Abbott, then find someone to primary him, but for God's sake do not do something so stupid, so idiotic, and damned near suicidal as to not vote R or abstain altogether just because you don't like how Abbott handled things. Because God it can be so much worse...

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Keegan99 said:

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Tea Party said:

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Don't care how he's treated in the media. He enabled the hoax with his 8 month mandate and restricting businesses from opening.

Short memories of voters allow bad beaurocrats like Abbott to maintain power.

The mountain he will have to climb to earn my vote is nearly insurmountable.

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Let's say he's polling neck and neck with Beto in '22.

You're willing to stay home and risk Governor O'Rourke? Do you think that will result in better policies for Texas than if Abbott was Governor?

I completely understand an attempt to oust him in the primary. Depending on the opponent, I might join the effort. But opening the door for a Dem to win the governorship is chopping off your hand because you have a hangnail.

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This. This **** right ****ing here.

You guys need to understand that while yes, Abbott made an absolute mess of things in handling this, you're still MILES AND MILES better off with him than Beta, or any other democrat. You think it's been dumb in Texas? Try living under Tommy Tyrant up here in PA. I'll take Abbott in a heartbeat over that ***hole.

If you don't want Abbott, then find someone to primary him, but for God's sake do not do something so stupid, so idiotic, and damned near suicidal as to not vote R or abstain altogether just because you don't like how Abbott handled things. Because God it can be so much worse...

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There are multiple options.
Vote D to expedite the ship sinking in the hope that
* socialists discover hardship quicker and change their views in the long run
* conservatives finally grow a spine and fight back
Vote Abbott and continue the slow crawl to socialism.
* Showing support for him also enables similar beaurocrats to run because they know voters will vote for a terrible uni-party beaurocrat as long as it's their side of the uni-party. Ok short term. Terrible long term.
Vote third party regardless of candidate.
* Expedite rank choice voting and help break the power grasp the uni-party has.
Abstain. Only an option if there is no third party or you have no faith that socialists can have their minds changed with hardship.

Ideally Abbott changes course drastically and rights the sinking ship to earn our votes proudly or he is primaried by a strong conservative candidate, but I'm done voting for the slow crawl to leftism.

Masks don't work and neither do liberal Karens.

Maximus_Meridius said:

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Keegan99 said:

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Tea Party said:

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Don't care how he's treated in the media. He enabled the hoax with his 8 month mandate and restricting businesses from opening.

Short memories of voters allow bad beaurocrats like Abbott to maintain power.

The mountain he will have to climb to earn my vote is nearly insurmountable.

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Let's say he's polling neck and neck with Beto in '22.

You're willing to stay home and risk Governor O'Rourke? Do you think that will result in better policies for Texas than if Abbott was Governor?

I completely understand an attempt to oust him in the primary. Depending on the opponent, I might join the effort. But opening the door for a Dem to win the governorship is chopping off your hand because you have a hangnail.

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This. This **** right ****ing here.

You guys need to understand that while yes, Abbott made an absolute mess of things in handling this, you're still MILES AND MILES better off with him than Beta, or any other democrat. You think it's been dumb in Texas? Try living under Tommy Tyrant up here in PA. I'll take Abbott in a heartbeat over that ***hole.

If you don't want Abbott, then find someone to primary him, but for God's sake do not do something so stupid, so idiotic, and damned near suicidal as to not vote R or abstain altogether just because you don't like how Abbott handled things. Because God it can be so much worse...

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Is anyone really talking about not voting or voting D? I think it is pretty clear the objective would be to primary Abbott for someone better. There is no doubt that given the choice between Abbott and any Democrat, especially the fake Mexican, you vote for Abbott.

The media will shortly talk about how Abbott lifting the ban will negatively impact the minority communities. That way they can talk about two thing they salivate about at the same time - Covid and race.

It took 70 years for the Soviet Union to crumble. And it took a strong US to do it. I would hate to see how long socialism would last here. Longer than I will live for sure.

What exactly is the beef with Abbott yall realize if we didn't have him as Gov we would still be lock downed way worse than a blue state?

Onceaggie2.0 said:

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What exactly is the beef with Abbott yall realize if we didn't have him as Gov we would still be lock downed way worse than a blue state?

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I dont have any beef. Im just stating that the left and the media will use this opening as a weapon against Abbott in the next election. If, as expected, this opening doesnt make a spike happen, the media will still spin it as though Abbott risked everyone's health.

Onceaggie2.0 said:

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What exactly is the beef with Abbott yall realize if we didn't have him as Gov we would still be lock downed way worse than a blue state?

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If Texans elected a honest and conservative Republican we wouldn't have a lock down or mask mandates in the first place.

triplemiller said:

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Onceaggie2.0 said:

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What exactly is the beef with Abbott yall realize if we didn't have him as Gov we would still be lock downed way worse than a blue state?

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If Texans elected a honest and conservative Republican we wouldn't have a lock down or mask mandates in the first place.

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Again but we didnt' we elected abbott it would have been 30x worse with a Dem governor.

Onceaggie2.0 said:

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triplemiller said:

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Onceaggie2.0 said:

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What exactly is the beef with Abbott yall realize if we didn't have him as Gov we would still be lock downed way worse than a blue state?

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If Texans elected a honest and conservative Republican we wouldn't have a lock down or mask mandates in the first place.

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Again but we didnt' we elected abbott it would have been 30x worse with a Dem governor.

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In the short term yes, a D governor would have destroyed us but hopefully in the long run two shifts happen.
* The indifferent general populace that just does what they are told get sick of the tyranny and start to vote conservative or maybe even push back a little against those advocating for leftism.
* Liberals push back on the leftists and bring their party closer to the left center.

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What exactly is the beef with Abbott yall realize if we didn't have him as Gov we would still be lock downed way worse than a blue state?

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That is the mentality that gets people like Abbott in power and keeps them there.

"Well, it could be worse!" Sure, it could be worse. But you know what? It could be better too.

The beef with Abbott is the fact that he unilaterally went into state lockdown mode, didn't call a special session of the legislature to vote on the draconian lockdown, quarantines, mask mandates, etc. and instead did what every single politician does when the opportunity presents - overstepped his shoes (or wheels, as it were) and got drunk on the power that he created for himself.

And it cost the state billions in economic loss, people lost their jobs left and right, and it gave way to people like Commandante Hildago and every other county judge to take the governor mandates miles and miles further in their little fiefdoms.

Abbott, had he a spine, should have pushed back against the lockdowns and mandates and kept Texas open, or at absolute worst not drug this bullsht on for 8 months, which is 7 months and 2 weeks longer than we were promised when all of this stupidity hit the fan to begin with.

So, it could have been better. A lot better. And I hope Abbott gets primaried as a result of the fact that it could have and should have been a lot better.

Onceaggie2.0 said:

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triplemiller said:

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Onceaggie2.0 said:

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What exactly is the beef with Abbott yall realize if we didn't have him as Gov we would still be lock downed way worse than a blue state?

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If Texans elected a honest and conservative Republican we wouldn't have a lock down or mask mandates in the first place.

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Again but we didnt' we elected abbott it would have been 30x worse with a Dem governor.

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I agree...a Democrat governor would have been worse.

My point is that excusing fake Republicans like Abbott because they aren't as bad as progressive Democrats is how they have completely taken over our country.

Onceaggie2.0 said:

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triplemiller said:

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Onceaggie2.0 said:

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What exactly is the beef with Abbott yall realize if we didn't have him as Gov we would still be lock downed way worse than a blue state?

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If Texans elected a honest and conservative Republican we wouldn't have a lock down or mask mandates in the first place.

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Again but we didnt' we elected abbott it would have been 30x worse with a Dem governor.

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I know you got raped ma'am, but look at it this way - you only got raped by 1 guy. It could have been 30x worse and you could have been raped and sodomized by 10 guys in front of your children! So really, you should be thankful that your experience wasn't nearly as bad as it could have been!

schmellba99 said:

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Onceaggie2.0 said:

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triplemiller said:

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Onceaggie2.0 said:

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What exactly is the beef with Abbott yall realize if we didn't have him as Gov we would still be lock downed way worse than a blue state?

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If Texans elected a honest and conservative Republican we wouldn't have a lock down or mask mandates in the first place.

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Again but we didnt' we elected abbott it would have been 30x worse with a Dem governor.

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I know you got raped ma'am, but look at it this way - you only got raped by 1 guy. It could have been 30x worse and you could have been raped and sodomized by 10 guys in front of your children! So really, you should be thankful that your experience wasn't nearly as bad as it could have been!

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Terrible analogy I think Abbott has handled it well measured approach. I will vote for him again.

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The fact that we have legions of people in society literally clamoring for and begging the government to strip us of our rights, our humanity and control what absolutely cannot be controlled (much less the fact that they have ignored or forgotten intitialy that the stupid ass masks were never marketed as a preventative cure for the virus) tells me that we are, without a doubt, on death's door as a country.

It is beyond sad at how many people are begging the government to put collars on them.

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The country obviously needs more Dominatrix professionals.

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Is anyone really talking about not voting or voting D? I think it is pretty clear the objective would be to primary Abbott for someone better. There is no doubt that given the choice between Abbott and any Democrat, especially the fake Mexican, you vote for Abbott.

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Yeah, that guy called Tea Party.

Onceaggie2.0 said:

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schmellba99 said:

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Onceaggie2.0 said:

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triplemiller said:

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Onceaggie2.0 said:

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What exactly is the beef with Abbott yall realize if we didn't have him as Gov we would still be lock downed way worse than a blue state?

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If Texans elected a honest and conservative Republican we wouldn't have a lock down or mask mandates in the first place.

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Again but we didnt' we elected abbott it would have been 30x worse with a Dem governor.

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I know you got raped ma'am, but look at it this way - you only got raped by 1 guy. It could have been 30x worse and you could have been raped and sodomized by 10 guys in front of your children! So really, you should be thankful that your experience wasn't nearly as bad as it could have been!

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Terrible analogy I think Abbott has handled it well measured approach. I will vote for him again.

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W Bush, McCain, Cornyn, and Romney have made a political career manipulating and fooling conservatives just like you.

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There are multiple options.
Vote D to expedite the ship sinking in the hope that
* socialists discover hardship quicker and change their views in the long run
* conservatives finally grow a spine and fight back

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LOL. Never going to happen.

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Ideally Abbott changes course drastically and rights the sinking ship to earn our votes proudly or he is primaried by a strong conservative candidate, but I'm done voting for the slow crawl to leftism.

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As opposed to just driving right off that cliff? No thanks. That's just stupid.

triplemiller said:

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Onceaggie2.0 said:

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schmellba99 said:

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Onceaggie2.0 said:

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triplemiller said:

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Onceaggie2.0 said:

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What exactly is the beef with Abbott yall realize if we didn't have him as Gov we would still be lock downed way worse than a blue state?

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If Texans elected a honest and conservative Republican we wouldn't have a lock down or mask mandates in the first place.

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Again but we didnt' we elected abbott it would have been 30x worse with a Dem governor.

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I know you got raped ma'am, but look at it this way - you only got raped by 1 guy. It could have been 30x worse and you could have been raped and sodomized by 10 guys in front of your children! So really, you should be thankful that your experience wasn't nearly as bad as it could have been!

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Terrible analogy I think Abbott has handled it well measured approach. I will vote for him again.

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W Bush, McCain, Cornyn, and Romney have made a political career manipulating and fooling conservatives just like you.

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And folks like Pelosi and Schumer and Biden have made a career out of fooling their base as well, only they're WAY worse.

schmellba99 said:

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The fact that we have legions of people in society literally clamoring for and begging the government to strip us of our rights, our humanity and control what absolutely cannot be controlled (much less the fact that they have ignored or forgotten intitialy that the stupid ass masks were never marketed as a preventative cure for the virus) tells me that we are, without a doubt, on death's door as a country.

It is beyond sad at how many people are begging the government to put collars on them.

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Allow me to help, we have Covid and have been put on a ventilator. It's all a matter of two weeks now before the plug gets pulled.

It will be interesting when someone, who follows these gov mask mandates, files a lawsuit against governments that force these mandates (and the mask manufacturer of their choice) AFTER they contract covid in spite of wearing the mask.

If the covid patient happens to be a POC, it will be even MORE interesting to see the positions taken by each "side".

triplemiller said:

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Onceaggie2.0 said:

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schmellba99 said:

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Onceaggie2.0 said:

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triplemiller said:

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Onceaggie2.0 said:

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What exactly is the beef with Abbott yall realize if we didn't have him as Gov we would still be lock downed way worse than a blue state?

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If Texans elected a honest and conservative Republican we wouldn't have a lock down or mask mandates in the first place.

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Again but we didnt' we elected abbott it would have been 30x worse with a Dem governor.

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I know you got raped ma'am, but look at it this way - you only got raped by 1 guy. It could have been 30x worse and you could have been raped and sodomized by 10 guys in front of your children! So really, you should be thankful that your experience wasn't nearly as bad as it could have been!

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Terrible analogy I think Abbott has handled it well measured approach. I will vote for him again.

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W Bush, McCain, Cornyn, and Romney have made a political career manipulating and fooling conservatives just like you.

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And Obama, Biden, Harris and Beto have mede a political career manipulating conservatives like you

Handled it well? Not especially.

But infinitely better than the Dem governors like the idiot in New Mexico, for a "close to home" example.

MooreTrucker said:

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triplemiller said:

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Onceaggie2.0 said:

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schmellba99 said:

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Onceaggie2.0 said:

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triplemiller said:

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Onceaggie2.0 said:

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What exactly is the beef with Abbott yall realize if we didn't have him as Gov we would still be lock downed way worse than a blue state?

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If Texans elected a honest and conservative Republican we wouldn't have a lock down or mask mandates in the first place.

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Again but we didnt' we elected abbott it would have been 30x worse with a Dem governor.

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I know you got raped ma'am, but look at it this way - you only got raped by 1 guy. It could have been 30x worse and you could have been raped and sodomized by 10 guys in front of your children! So really, you should be thankful that your experience wasn't nearly as bad as it could have been!

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Terrible analogy I think Abbott has handled it well measured approach. I will vote for him again.

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W Bush, McCain, Cornyn, and Romney have made a political career manipulating and fooling conservatives just like you.

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And folks like Pelosi and Schumer and Biden have made a career out of fooling their base as well, only they're WAY worse.

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They are way worse...that's why they have to be stopped.

You don't stop then by staying home on election day and helping their allies get elected.

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triplemiller said:

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Onceaggie2.0 said:

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schmellba99 said:

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Onceaggie2.0 said:

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triplemiller said:

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Onceaggie2.0 said:

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What exactly is the beef with Abbott yall realize if we didn't have him as Gov we would still be lock downed way worse than a blue state?

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If Texans elected a honest and conservative Republican we wouldn't have a lock down or mask mandates in the first place.

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Again but we didnt' we elected abbott it would have been 30x worse with a Dem governor.

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I know you got raped ma'am, but look at it this way - you only got raped by 1 guy. It could have been 30x worse and you could have been raped and sodomized by 10 guys in front of your children! So really, you should be thankful that your experience wasn't nearly as bad as it could have been!

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Terrible analogy I think Abbott has handled it well measured approach. I will vote for him again.

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W Bush, McCain, Cornyn, and Romney have made a political career manipulating and fooling conservatives just like you.

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And Obama, Biden, Harris and Beto have mede a political career manipulating conservatives like you

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I want Republicans who are honest and conservative who will fight against Democrats and strengthen conservative principles. If you voted for a fake Republican during the primary elections...you are the problem.

Please explain how any of my views help Democrats.

Keegan99 said:

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Don't care how he's treated in the media. He enabled the hoax with his 8 month mandate and restricting businesses from opening.

Short memories of voters allow bad beaurocrats like Abbott to maintain power.

The mountain he will have to climb to earn my vote is nearly insurmountable.

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Let's say he's polling neck and neck with Beto in '22.

You're willing to stay home and risk Governor O'Rourke? Do you think that will result in better policies for Texas than if Abbott was Governor?

I completely understand an attempt to oust him in the primary. Depending on the opponent, I might join the effort. But opening the door for a Dem to win the governorship is chopping off your hand because you have a hangnail.

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I agree.

MooreTrucker said:

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Tea Party said:

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There are multiple options.
Vote D to expedite the ship sinking in the hope that
* socialists discover hardship quicker and change their views in the long run
* conservatives finally grow a spine and fight back

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LOL. Never going to happen.

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Ideally Abbott changes course drastically and rights the sinking ship to earn our votes proudly or he is primaried by a strong conservative candidate, but I'm done voting for the slow crawl to leftism.

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As opposed to just driving right off that cliff? No thanks. That's just stupid.

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People that have fled socialist countries tend to overwhelmingly vote conservative. Whether a typical American leftist will change their views if the spent a few years under socialism is debatable. Although living in green pastures before living on dirt has a significant effect on desire for improvement as opposed to someone who lived their whole life on dirt.

Voting leftist is driving off the cliff, and I would never support that. Abstaining or voting third party is not driving off a cliff in my opinion.

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You don't stop then by staying home on election day and helping their allies get elected.

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I vote Republican on election day. Conservatives failure is during GOP primaries...electing Rinos allows bills like Obamacare to pass and DC Republicans not supporting the Trump administration.

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WHOOP!'91 said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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They did the same thing to DeSantis. He came out ok.

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You may recall that DeSantis, as great as his resume is, BARELY beat some FAMU druggie mayor in the last gubernatorial race. Having done a great job, he may have an easier time going forward, but Dem ballot harvesting and cheating has gotten pretty well-refined and wide-spread. Kemp in GA is almost surely going to lose to Abrams next cycle.

A D gov...in GA.

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Florida voting requires IDs to vote. He's safe.

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Just wait until the Hawaiian judge chimes in.